That’s what I would try if you are certain the gear is good.
I think it is more likely the testing lab you are dealing with sucks, vs your levels just bouncing all over the place (to a huge degree) in ways that don’t make sense.
Myea, but what chance is that in such small country a different lab will have much different methods. I would think its mostly the same.
My first thought is:
Did you get your bloodwork done the same amount of time after each injection? Was one a peak value and the other a trough value? What ester of test are you using? does esterified test show up in blood work?
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Yes and no, i did injections EOD so doing once a week bloods will put me at least twice a month in “same amount of time after injection”.
Im doing test E.
I have no clue
Anyways i jabbed a gram of test in last 3 days… it should not have DROPPED, its not like these bloodoworks are months appart… its 6 days and i have done injections on schedule.
Ok, i found a different lab(could be they use same methods tho) and tommorrow morning i will do another bloodwork. No injections today. Hopefully tommorrow afternoon we will see if there is any difference.
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Do you know what method they are using? Most have no accuracy when much higher than the lab range. LC/MS/MS is usually pretty good.
Nope and no idea where to look for it.
I always thought you measured your IGF-1 to getting a good idea of what your GH is.
Natural GH is only produced by the pituitary gland around 2am during REM sleep and only stays in the blood for about 30 minutes. Injectable GH also only has a half life of less than a hour. So there is no way to ever really test your GH level since it is all over the place in 24 hours.
@galgenstrick maybe there is no point of me obsessing about that stuff? like just see my e2 a bit up and be done with it?
Nah, it costs three times as much and mine is mid-range always. But GH is pretty stable if you inject it twice a day, it should be way over normal range every hour of the day 
That would be my approach
Yea, i was thinking that maybe if everything is 10 times higher in the blood as it is supposed to be, the tests just fuck up and show whatever the fuck…
Yes, maybe i will do exactly this - i just wont do test and HGH labs anymore, as you said - they can be fucked up, and i live in such a shit country where everything is so old and slow and bad, its probably that no lab actually can tell my real test levels…
I can hope e2 is accurate as it has never jumped up and down so much and it is always close to the range lab is showing.
Ok, so i decided to not obsess about bloodwork on test and HGH, as its probably screwed up and in my backwards country i dont think any lab will be much different. The one i was using is the most popular and its a huge chain, not like some weird clinic, so i will just hope its bad everywhere.
Anyways, i need to get my e2 up, so i will drop the EQ by half. The cycle for now looks like :
250mg test/125mg EQ/200mg mast-E, every third day… which totals for a week :
a bit below 600mg test
a bit below 300mg eq
a bit below 500mg mast E
also HGH 2iu twice a day and HCG every 4th day + 50mg stanazolol ED.
So basically what i have done so far is :
1)came off the tren
2)decreased my EQ by half
3)decreased planed masteron by 100-200mg a week
4)Increased test by around 200mg a week
After almost two weeks off tren, i think the weird urine smell of tren is gone so it might be out ofg the system.
I dont feel that i lost strenght, but of course - that is the reason i have tons of other shit added now - to not feel it that much.
As far as my other feelings go - nothing is better or worse. Only the lack of e2 makes me a bit flat, but also - im looking less fat.
I will probably post the next summary update in 2 weeks or so, when i check how my e2 is doing.
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Wanted to chime in but now everything has been said. Most likely your labs are trash because your way above top range. If they do some immuno method, then that is likely.
If you would take no AI at all and we would assume a stable conversion rate since you are always supraphysiological, you could judge your T levels by your E2 levels. As soon as you add in other drugs like EQ this doesn’t work anymore.
Also I agree with @hrdlvn that usually to measure GHs effect, you measure IGF-1
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Went to a different lab to see my e2, and did a testosterone also just for jokes… paid TWICE as much as on my normal lab, to see if maybe this lab shows correct test…
Test is even lower than it was on previous labs, BUT the e2 is up a bit.
Judging by the labwork, it seems that im injecting water instead of test, but then again - since my e2 has come up, SOMETHING does that, right?
So we come to a conclusion that i cant do a propper testosterone labwork in my country if i take more than 1,5cc of test a week.
Ill check it again in a week in my old lab just to see that it doesnt actually show 0 by that time since i am using a new brand of test, but i do not feel much different so i dont think its true.
Anyways, last weeks i felt like my strenght has gone down on squats and deadlifts but interestingly it has gone up on benchpress.
But i believe its more of a programming fault as my Training Max was a bit higher for lower body so i have been grinding for a bit, while my Bench training max was set a bit lower so i was able to keep my reps up.
I will be dropping my TM for lower body lifts since i start new 531 cycle this week and i will see how it goes from here on out.
Also, i will be stopping masteron, as i believe i am too fat to see any benefits, and ill just see if i will notice something when i stop it.
Instead of mast, my steroid dude suggested me to try Ostarine, which is less harmful than mast, but he said that many people notice fatloss in midsection from it. Ill just do 1 bottle of it and see if i notice anything. If not, once it ends, ill have even less drugs in my blast.
So from this point my blast looks like :
a bit below 600mg test
a bit below 300mg eq
25mg Ostarine a day
50mg Stanazolol a day
HGH 2iu twice a day and HCG every 4th day
So basically what i have done so far is :
1)came off the tren
2)decreased my EQ by half
3)stopped masteron
4)started ostarine tho…
That lab maxes out at 15, so so you know if that you are greater than 15.
If you are doing percent based work, I would do higher percent on your body lifts. Using the same percent is inherently working your legs harder, as you lift very little of your body with a bench press, but a while lot with a squat. Your 400 lb squat is actually closer to 650 if you count bodyweight, but you are using percentages based on the 400, not the 650.
When i looked closer and saw that it shows exactly 15.0 i also tought that it might be a max cap… And costs twice as much. What bullshit.
Yea, i tought of that also, as i have gained weight but my strenght has gone up much less that expected and then i kinda tought that i am squatting 40lbs more of my own ass, so that could also be it.
Nowdays i am looking for lowering all the %…
Honestly, since i started actually training for strenght my life has gone to shit. I have some new aches and pains. My overall feeling is shit most of the time. 90% of the time i have low libido and i am always tired.
A few years back, all i did was bodyweight stuff and pump work for upper body(never trained legs more than burpees and jumps, as my legs are the same size all my life) -
this pic is from a time i hadnt done a weighted squat for at least 8 years.
I could do 3 training sessions a day + work, and i would go on Tinder dates at midnight and fuck like crazy at 2AM, and have epic good sex, then get up after 4-5 hours and repeat this for years and years.
Since i strated strenght training i can barelly survive 1 training session. My cardio has gone to shit as i have no energy for that. I am always tired and at night you would have to pay me, and i still probably wouldnt go on a date. And i probably couldnt even get hard if i wanted to anyways. And the sex i have now, most times feels a bit dull, like - i dont get the super good feelings etc.
So now i am backing down on all that. Still have tons of work to do, because i am an overtrainer - it would be mentally easier for me to max deadlift each day, instead of taking 1 day off. I already have trained myself to do weights only EOD. Now i have to find the right percentages and back off my lower body training a bit. If lower percentages still dont work, i will look into Lilliebridge metdod where you squat and deadlift every 14 days.
Latest Wendlers podcast also encouraged me, as he said “It is better to be undertrained than overtrained”. So now im starting a new 531 cycle and i will be trying to feel a bit undertrained each session.
Hitting the surface…. Compound lifts wear you out. Body weight and pump work do not. I’m so exhausted at times that all I want to do is sleep. I don’t mean just tired, I mean exhausted. If you always train hard, then I’m guessing you are in the same place.
This could just be you are not in your 20’s anymore.
It is going to be interesting to see how much of this is age-related vs drugs.
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Sucks for me as most i can sleep is like 6 hours at night and maybe 20min nap a day. My body just wakes up still sleepy and tired.
This is what my GF says… But then again, it was 3 years ago. Its not like i was 22 then and 45 now… I fucked 3 different chicks a day when i was 28 and every time i had to think disgusting shit just not to cum too fast as i was so horny. Im 32 now, and for last 2 years most times i would wanna come i just dont even want to put in the effort to do actual sex 
and i also cant jerk off - i just cant finish like that, my hand gets a cramp and i just go to sleep annoyed