Welcome back DJ, wondered where you went.
There is a new CF gym open in my town, checked into them this morning and they’re only $100 a month so I MAY be joining CF nation for a little bit.
Dday after this trip I realized I need more balance than ever before. I will be interested in seeing how it goes, just know I have not drunk the Koolaid.
For me it’s as much couriosity as anything. As I get older the “functional” training seems a little more appealing. Mostly because things I used to do with ease are so much harder, not to mention sitting at a desk all day the joints could use the blood flow. I emailed the place and if they answer my questions to my satisfaction might give it a shot.
^ I think the best approach now in our middle age is a little bit of it all, strength, cardio and mobility. I hear you about the little things I started taking for granted. Like jumping and running.
The wife and I have some friends now that are active in life, i.e. warrior dash, hiking, scuba etc. I dont want to be the guy that sits on the sidelines, but I can squat twice as much as they can. They look like they are having fun and are healthy, I just plan on grabbing a bit of that.
Jesus H guys, are you telling me in 3.5 years I’m suddenly going to lose my mind and enjoy insane amounts of cardio?
^ Yes.
Now, I will say that if you didnt know that at one point in my life I was 305 pounds of tub of goo. After HS stopped working out and ballooned up over a 3 year period. I spent the next 15 years working on keeping my weight down. However during that time also suffered a lot of injuries from incorrect form etc.
So beans if you used to be fat like me and Dday, your fucked. If you have a ton of injuries, your fucked. But you might have the genetics to do the heavy iron game for a long time and then…well your not fucked.
Look at Wendler and Tate, at what age did they start changing there mentality and start dropping weight?
It gets very, very tiring to get up every day with joint pain. I just know at a lighter weight I have a ton less joint pain. Such is life. end/rant. 
[quote]dday wrote:
For me it’s as much couriosity as anything. As I get older the “functional” training seems a little more appealing. Mostly because things I used to do with ease are so much harder, not to mention sitting at a desk all day the joints could use the blood flow. I emailed the place and if they answer my questions to my satisfaction might give it a shot.[/quote]
Not to open a big can of worms but you can do the best part of CF without ever going to a CF gym.
IMHO, the best thing that CF has to offer people who like to lift heavy are the body weight metcon workouts which consist of pullups, pushups, bodyweight squats, burpees, and add in wall balls every so often along with some short distance running. Which you can do in any gym or at home. Just don’t do the retarded kipping pullups.
In thoery you could get teh same result for prowler/sled work but the metcon stuff is easy to fit into a busy day.
Its when they go into some of the high rep Dl’s and Oly stuff that CF goes tits up.
EDIT: I also meant to add that my personal feeling is that if you want “functional” training for overall quality of life you are better off playing a sport three times a week but not eveyone can fit that into their schedule.
^ you do make a good arguement Joe. Not to mention save $100 a month which could go into improving my home gym. Still thinking about it. CF does post daily workouts on their main site so might just throw those in on off days and no ghey pull up things.
I suppose golf and pool(billads) don’t count? Would love to play some softball, just no time.
yeah those pullups are super ghey. ny shoulder would fall up if did anything like that.
I dont know why both styles can’t be instituted in a program. CF stuff can be considered a major conditioning tool to go along with strength training, and if tempered enough I dont see CF hindering strength levels.
The older I get the more I’m coming around to your way of thinking DJ.
I’m not about to jump on the crossfit bandwagon, but the older you get the more I think you have to take care of your general health eg, stamina, blood pressure, joint health etc.
It’s no consolation being really strong if you can’t walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded.
I’m fed up of feeling more ‘beat up’ all the time than my non lifting friends, surely we should feel better than them?
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
The older I get the more I’m coming around to your way of thinking DJ.
I’m not about to jump on the crossfit bandwagon, but the older you get the more I think you have to take care of your general health eg, stamina, blood pressure, joint health etc.
It’s no consolation being really strong if you can’t walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded.
I’m fed up of feeling more ‘beat up’ all the time than my non lifting friends, surely we should feel better than them?[/quote]
Ironic, isnt it? I feel the same way
I just went to the CF site to see what’s what. I noticed that one of the exercises for the day was back squats, sets of 3, ramped up in weight. Looks like strength training to me.
IMO, there are a few things about CF that make it tough for absolute strength: the amount of conditioning work done and a culture of “fitness” that many take to be leanness. If I had to make a guess, many CFers don’t eat enough for strength.
Balance the conditioning and strength work, allow for recovery, eat enough and BAM! you are fit and strong and maybe decently sized.
Sorry meant to post but been in meeting since 10 this morning. Like everything in life balance is key. I dont agree and sure as hell cant do the kipping pullups, however a lot of that stuff is good to do.
Also the only benefit I see going to the gym is the camaraderie and the “push” of some type of a competition with other people. Hard to puss out on running etc when some chick is kicking your ass.
Dday that also have sites for CF powerlifting, CF football training etc. Its just circuit training, no big deal, like I said but there are some bene’s.
Also the only benefit I see going to the gym is the camaraderie and the “push” of some type of a competition with other people. Hard to puss out on running etc when some chick is kicking your ass.
Hehehe, that “chick” would be me
^ Yes love but like I keep telling you when you are trapped under a car or piece of large farm equipment, who is going to lift it off you? ME that is who. 
Wed was to sore yesterday glad I didnt work out had a hell of a long day.
Warm-Up 400 meter run, push-ups, sit-ups, stretching etc
115 X 10 X Hang Cleans
115 X 10 X MP standing
400 meter run
115 X 10 X Hang Cleans
115 X 10 X MP standing
600 meter row
115 X 10 X Hang Cleans
115 X 10 X MP standing
20 yards backward crab crawl
115 X 10 X Hang Cleans
115 X 10 X MP standing
20 yards bear crawl
13:18 minutes then ran a mile
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ Yes love but like I keep telling you when you are trapped under a car or piece of large farm equipment, who is going to lift it off you? ME that is who. :P[/quote]
yeah yeah yeah, not sure why I would be around farm equiptment, but ok.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
yeah those pullups are super ghey. ny shoulder would fall up if did anything like that.
I dont know why both styles can’t be instituted in a program. CF stuff can be considered a major conditioning tool to go along with strength training, and if tempered enough I dont see CF hindering strength levels.[/quote]
Both can be, I have a friend who does ME Upper/CF/CF/Rest/ME Lower/CF/CF/rest etc etc and just subs out any CF WOD that would hit what he hit on his ME day the following day with another WOD and he’s effing strong.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
The older I get the more I’m coming around to your way of thinking DJ.
I’m not about to jump on the crossfit bandwagon, but the older you get the more I think you have to take care of your general health eg, stamina, blood pressure, joint health etc.
It’s no consolation being really strong if you can’t walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded.
I’m fed up of feeling more ‘beat up’ all the time than my non lifting friends, surely we should feel better than them?[/quote]
Ironic, isnt it? I feel the same way
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I think this is because a lot of strength oriented people forget about active recovery. I might be exhausted after a 2 hour football or basketball game but I always feel better on the weeks I play than on the weeks I don’t.
My best guess is that if you get only one type of physical activity and you are pushing it hard all the time then you are going to feel like shit after a while. Distance runners complain about aches and pains more than any other people I know.
^ True like my beautiful wife is always beating into my head, balance and moderation. Well that is mostly about beer and BBQ, but could work for working out also.
When I was running today that was what was going through my head was getting back to that athlete status.
I do want to clarify that if I did not have the injury history and had the genetics to do PLing that would be my choice. I would push the envelope and do it to the hilt. I also think that guys who can do it I have the greatest respect for. Strongman included in that statement.
The last two years I got back into the heavy weights but once I got to a certain level started breaking down again. So time to change the game. Also cant do BBing I respect that passion, but again injury history and joints cant take the pounding. Hell if I do a couple of weeks of curls, my ganglion cyst blows up to a golf ball and my elbows flair up to the point I cant hold a coffee cup.
Okay end of my pity party, just thought I would clarify?