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[quote]BIG_DAWS wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
If we were to talk about power output, wouldn’t bicyclists be at the very top of the list?

I think speed skaters might be a close second to them too.

And by the way, I’m not being sarcastic this time, like I obviously was when I was talking about long distance runners.

No. If we were talking about maximum power output olympic level shot putters would be the cream of the crop. I have been to several throwing clinics and research has shown that elite shotputters generate up to 9 horse power, the next being olympic lifters at 6. I dont know what falls beyond them.

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How much hp do cyclists and speed skaters generate?

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[quote]BIG_DAWS wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
If we were to talk about power output, wouldn’t bicyclists be at the very top of the list?

I think speed skaters might be a close second to them too.

And by the way, I’m not being sarcastic this time, like I obviously was when I was talking about long distance runners.

No. If we were talking about maximum power output olympic level shot putters would be the cream of the crop. I have been to several throwing clinics and research has shown that elite shotputters generate up to 9 horse power, the next being olympic lifters at 6. I dont know what falls beyond them.

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I would love to see how they determine that because those numbers sound way too high.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
BIG_DAWS wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
If we were to talk about power output, wouldn’t bicyclists be at the very top of the list?

I think speed skaters might be a close second to them too.

And by the way, I’m not being sarcastic this time, like I obviously was when I was talking about long distance runners.

No. If we were talking about maximum power output olympic level shot putters would be the cream of the crop. I have been to several throwing clinics and research has shown that elite shotputters generate up to 9 horse power, the next being olympic lifters at 6. I dont know what falls beyond them.

I would love to see how they determine that because those numbers sound way too high.[/quote]

I was thinking about trying to figure out how fast and far the shot-put would be traveling for it to make 9hp.

So far all I got was that 1 hp is 746 watts, so the shot putter was generating 6714 watts.

Shot put weighs 16lbs?
Amount of time it’s in the air - X seconds
World record distance for shot put:75’10" (shortened to 75’ to make math easier)

Formulas:
Power = work/time
Work = force x distance
Force = mass x acceleration
acceleration = velocity/time

So with the info we have:

6714W=16lbs x 75’ / time(sec)

make time = “X” and the equation becomes:
6714W-16 lbs x 75ft / X

Solve for X:
6714W (X)=1200ft lbs

X=.1787 seconds

So the ball would have to be thrown 75 feet within .17 seconds?

I may have messed up my math though.

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http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/4831

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:

I may have messed up my math though.[/quote]

You messed up your physics. You have to consider that it’s a parabolic flight curve and that the work that counts is only to the point where the mass reaches it’s highest altitude.

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This just cracks me up, this discussion, the “hey, cressey doesen’t have 100% perfect form on his 3xbodyweight pull”-thread and others should be just moderated away. NOW.

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One aspect of this issue which has not been commented on so far: the top Olympic lifters are all full time professional sportsmen. As it was put some time ago by Chakarov “I work for the government. I train 8 hours a day 7 days a week. If I don’t produce, I lose my job.”

As far as I know, no powerlifters have the luxury of being able to devote themselves to training full-time. Who knows what they might achieve if they could?