Yeah but that still seems a little crazy for Dave Tate 400+ bench at 14! How much did he weigh?
Even with injuries I still can’t see this. I had my arm fractured n all, now that was an injury that setback my lifting big time lol.
I just can’t see it, Nick Winters who is a 700+ benher (raw) was benching 225 for some reps at 14. And did 460 at the end of highschool weighing 260lbs.
And I’m not talking out of my ass, I’ve actually asked him and talked to him. Off topic, we actually chilled at a house and watched UFC lol.
But yeah just real hard to believe.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Internet Strong:
Bench 300
Dead 450
Squat 500
All done by age 15.
Real world strong for a teen
Bench 200
Dead 250
Squat 300[/quote]
Wohoo, I’m strong!
Or is that for someone who doesn’t work out? That’s some really low standards. I mean, everyone who thinks I’m strong is either fat and inactive or manorectic.
the low numbers are “real world” expectations. meaning if you could do those things youre gonna be stronger than most people of your age range in the real world.
i just dont like that he has squat highest for everything. i dont know anyone who can squat more than they can dead. so i would say flip the squat and dead numbers.
i think i was 19/20 when i tried doing deadlifts for the first time in a real gym, maxed out at 315, then a couple months later i was doing it for reps, it gelt good cause some guy at the gym was like “thats a lot of weight” (lol) and im like, it used to be my 1 rep max.
it just feels good when you see yourself progress by leaps like that. 315 went from being a max to a warmup.
[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
rasturai wrote:
Dave Tate bench pressed 408 at 14 yers old raw?!
apparently…
its weird because you would think he would have gone further in the sport than he did…
A 14 year old benching 410 raw and deadlifting 525 while still being lean is potentionally a 600-700 bencher raw, and 900lb deadlifter.
Unless of course Dave Tate got on steroids at a young age because they were still legal back then.[/quote]
There are some strength ceilings out there and whether you hit them at age 16 or age 33, they are still there. Consider bench- there a zillion guys benching 315 raw, a lot benching 405- but the numbers fall off sharply making that jump from 400 to 500. Some of those guys put their fourth plate on the bar 20 years ago and are still stuck at 445. The same thing applies to the move from a 700 dead to a 800 dead. A good friend pulled a 771 when he was a teenager- I believe it was a teen 275 record at the time. 15 years of training and meets later, he is still chasing 800.
These things are really hard to get past. Maybe not impossible. But hard.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
matso1236 wrote:
Your Average Teen:
185+ Bench
275+ Squat
315+ Deadlift
No offence, but the average teen can do about HALF of that…
[/quote]
What do you mean?
I know a lot of friends of mines that walk in the gym and after a few months of working out once in awhile they his 185+ bench, some will hit a 275+ squat and they will get a 315 deadlift real quick, unless they are like 130lb.
If i see a teen putting up 350+ bench, 500+ squat and 600+ deadlift i will stop and stare…
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if i see anyone doing a 3.5/5/6 i will stare.
i dont know where the hell you guys train, but to me thats considered rare.
people stare at me if i pull from 385-405[/quote]
I agree, people here seem to have a warped view of wat the average person can do. There are fit guys that I play rugby with that even screw around in the gym sometimes and they struggle to do 200 bench press, have no chance of squatting 300, and have never deadlifted.
The average person, has never attempted a 1rm and is patheticly weak.
As for teens I think it is imposible to say because everyone developes differently.
I even think that weight comparisons are stupid because a 200 pound 5 foot 5 guy will nearly always be way stronger than a 200 pound 6 foot person.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if i see anyone doing a 3.5/5/6 i will stare.
i dont know where the hell you guys train, but to me thats considered rare.
people stare at me if i pull from 385-405[/quote]
I also agree. I work out at a university gym. When somebody pulls 5 plates everyone stares. When somebody squats deep with 315 or 405, everyone stares. Same goes for the guy power cleaning 225.
In the real world 3,4,5 is strong. If you work out with a bunch of elite powerlifters your definition of what is strong will be much higher for obvious reasons. I guess its true that what is strong is relative to those around you. I have never seen anybody pull more than 500.
I thought I was strong until I saw this website… A junior in my weightlifting class (high school) is about 250 and benches 4, squats 5, I have never seen him DL, but he cleans 225 for sets. He is an ox.
well strong is just like asking are you good at sex. Your good until someone else is better. I Pulled 515 raw in a meet a couple weeks ago @ 165 and thought i was the utter shit! (Note im 19)…go on powerliftingwatch.com the next day and read that a 132 DL 610! Obviosuly I had to re-evaluate everything
[quote]Pipes06 wrote:
well strong is just like asking are you good at sex. Your good until someone else is better. I Pulled 515 raw in a meet a couple weeks ago @ 165 and thought i was the utter shit! (Note im 19)…go on powerliftingwatch.com the next day and read that a 132 DL 610! Obviosuly I had to re-evaluate everything[/quote]
interesting point, and I think it occurs more often than most would think. Ive done lifts in meets that have gotten me gold medals but in reality are not impressive at all and I know this. Either way, I think that contributes to certain people especially teenage guys thinking they’re strong when really its the people around them that make them strong.