The girl in the background of the vid is married to the guy who taught me how to lift weights five years ago. So I knew I couldn’t miss a rep or he’d hear about it! These felt good.
Sumo DL Accessory
5/115
5/140
3/5/160 (1.4x BW)
I can handle the weight fine, but I just don’t feel right about my form. I know I need to pull my shoulders back and down before I initiate the pull. Any other feedback is welcome.
Additional accessory work (weighted hypers, cable pull-thrus, good girl/bad girl, and chins) will be done tonight.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I used to love the DL. But I’m all about squats right now. Funny because I’m really not a strong squatter. But my form is so spot-on with them. Interesting to me how my love for a certain lift can wax and wane. And how form can just fall by the wayside after years of training. How can this be?[/quote]
Do you think your DL problem might be that you’re just overthinking it these days?. That you’re trying to concentrate on too many form cues at once. Arch your back, head up, push through the heels, hump the bar etc and it’s caused you to think of the lift as several bits rather than a fluid movement?
Has your form deteriorated as your knowledge of the lift has increased?. Sometimes too much information can confuse. I’m noticing this myself the more I analyse the snatch the more of a broken, stilted movement it becomes.
I’m sure you will crack it. Maybe go back through your log to when you were happy with your DL and read what you were doing at the time as far as your mental cues were concerned.
Greer’s got some long legs!!! very graceful and powerful, yeah. i wondered if it might be that your standards have gone up. but sometimes having lots of cues can make it hard, too. your lifts look good to me.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
Do you think your DL problem might be that you’re just overthinking it these days?[/quote]
Are you suggesting that I’m a head case?
[quote]cavalier wrote:
Are you wearing any gear for these latest lifts? Can’t quite tell and was curious.[/quote]
No gear. Belt and knee sleeves for squat, which is considered raw, and belt for DL. I don’t plan to throw on the gear for regular training anytime soon. Although my new wide-stance squat suit arrived and I might just give it a spin this weekend. My hunch, however, is that it will be wicked tight in the thighs and too loose from the hips up. It may require tailoring to fit me like a glove.
[quote]brute_fury wrote:
haven’t you just fairly recently shifted to sumo dl’s? [/quote]
I haven’t shifted to sumo. I just train it as accessory work on squat day. I’ll probably always pull conventional on the platform because my strength in that position far exceeds my sumo strength. Unless I have some huge breakthrough with sumo.
So speaking of sumo . . . I was hanging with some PLers last night who are training for a NASA meet next month. And one of the guys was just a phenomenal sumo-er. Never threw his form even with massive weight. I showed him my setup and he gave me a few pointers that I will try out later this week.
And Git. Good for you on calling me out on the T-n-G in the sumo vid. I usually always do a full reset between reps but haven’t been with my sumos because I’ve been training them at the gym with the damned multi-sided plates. If I try to reset, the bar inevitably jumps outta position. I’m done, I tell you, with DLing at a gym without round plates.
Squats looks awesome.
I agree on the dead t-n-g but sounds like you are going to change that. Also looked like your hands were just a bit wide (but maybe just the angle)? Have you tried moving then just a hair closer so arms go straight down? May shorten your stroke a bit?
I cut my nails short this morning. The realization finally set in that long nails do not contribute to effective shirting and suiting.
My coach had a rough time in the bench today, which resulted in me having to do three heavy DLs. I’m taking them off of my rep count for the week.
I’m holding steady in the bench at a weight that any out-of-shape middle-age woman could walk off the street and rep. Videod a set to check my form and noticed a few things:
My arch has shrunk.
I’m starting the descent with the bar over my neck rather than over my chest.
I’m pushing toward the uprights rather than my feet.
I’m lifting my butt.
My arms are too damn long.
I’m weaker than piss.
Seems sort of silling to post this video. But this is where I am.
Just a few little things to work on. I’ve been trying to widen my grip again. I’ve got pinkies on the O rings right now. Got a few more centimeters to go on each side before I’m at max legal width. My arm length certainly justifies it if I can build the strength in that position.
My accessory work is going really well, and I swear I’m gaining strength in the rehab exercise department, which is thrilling! Shoulder feels like a million bucks, which is even more thrilling!
My coach had a rough time in the bench today, which resulted in me having to do three heavy DLs. I’m taking them off of my rep count for the week.[/quote]
I know what that’s like. My old training partner used to insist on doing reps he couldn’t manage and heavy negatives on bench. Still, I reckon my upright row was close to 300lbs at the time!
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I’m holding steady in the bench at a weight that any out-of-shape middle-age woman could walk off the street and rep.[/quote]
What? an out-of-shape middle-age woman who also had her shoulder reconstructed recently too? No I didn’t think so!
I don’t mind a little bit of self deprecation, but let’s not get silly.
My coach had a rough time in the bench today, which resulted in me having to do three heavy DLs. I’m taking them off of my rep count for the week.[/quote]
I know what that’s like. My old training partner used to insist on doing reps he couldn’t manage and heavy negatives on bench. Still, I reckon my upright row was close to 300lbs at the time!
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I’m holding steady in the bench at a weight that any out-of-shape middle-age woman could walk off the street and rep.[/quote]
What? an out-of-shape middle-age woman who also had her shoulder reconstructed recently too? No I didn’t think so!
I don’t mind a little bit of self deprecation, but let’s not get silly.[/quote]
I wasn’t calling myself an out-of-shape middle-age woman. I meant any out-of-shape middle-age woman could bench what I’m benching.
My coach had a rough time in the bench today, which resulted in me having to do three heavy DLs. I’m taking them off of my rep count for the week.[/quote]
I know what that’s like. My old training partner used to insist on doing reps he couldn’t manage and heavy negatives on bench. Still, I reckon my upright row was close to 300lbs at the time!
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I’m holding steady in the bench at a weight that any out-of-shape middle-age woman could walk off the street and rep.[/quote]
What? an out-of-shape middle-age woman who also had her shoulder reconstructed recently too? No I didn’t think so!
I don’t mind a little bit of self deprecation, but let’s not get silly.[/quote]
I wasn’t calling myself an out-of-shape middle-age woman. I meant any out-of-shape middle-age woman could bench what I’m benching.
I’m a fit young thing.[/quote]
I know.
I meant a woman off the street might be able to match your bench, but she probably hasn’t just had her shoulder completely rebuilt has she?. That does make a difference and has to be taken into account.
its only onwards and upwards from here. glad to hear that your accessory work is going well and you are gaining strength there. hopefully seeing progress helps doing it seem less tedious. nice that your shoulder is feeling better, too.
I’d love to hear the DL tips you got for sumo. You mentioned getting your shoulders back and down. I’m not sure ‘back’ is the best. When you retract your shoulder blades, you shorten your arms and lengthen your ROM. When I watch (my idol) P. Ribic DL, it looks like she rolls her shoulders forward to lengthen her arms as much as possible. I want to be just like her
