I’ll also add Battlestar Galactica’s Katee Sackhoff (Starbuck). The character is portrayed as very athletic and a very strong character (I want a “what would starbuck do?” wristband). She doesn’t have much visible muscle definition, but I think she meets the definition of “thick.”
On a side note, is there some sort of film convention that states women can only be shown doing pushups if they’re in the military or incarcerated?
I have yet to see a “strong woman” in a movie, or anywhere else. The concept is antithetical, is it not?
Angela basset, more recognised for playing Tina Turner was built in 1995 film “Strange Days”
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I have yet to see a “strong woman” in a movie, or anywhere else. The concept is antithetical, is it not?[/quote]
We have read enough of your silly thoughts on women.
Defiantely Jessica Biel!
[quote]julia87 wrote:
dont you just hate that? When guys play badass/action roles, like Terminator, they get a guy like Arnold. Then they dress all these untough bodied, archy eyebrowed women in tough clothes and they are suppose to become tough by the clothes?
Come on. Thats ridiculous. Thats like putting a sedentary obese guy in fitness clothes and saying “all right. you can be an Olympian now.”
Thats why I respect Jessica Biel so much. Bc, unlike Hilary Swank, after she plays her badass roles and shes on the red carpet, she doesnt look like shes fallen to eating disorders again.
Shes still beautiful.[/quote]
My wife and I were discussing this concept over the weekend. She named off a few of the movies listed with strong and tough female leads (GI Jane and T2, for example) and said how she definitely appreciates the strong characters, but doesnt think that they work quite as well when the actress doesnt look the part.
We both wondered why they’d let themselves totally regress as well. I can understand not keeping the intense schedule most of them keep to get that way, but knowing how hard it is, why not at least try to cut back and maintain? You’d think they’d have a taste for it after all the hard work. And that like guys, they might get more action/strong woman parts to play.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I have yet to see a “strong woman” in a movie, or anywhere else. The concept is antithetical, is it not?[/quote]
oh my god. Not you. Your always in every thread Im in!!! Why are you doing this to me??!!!
[quote]Plisskin wrote:
My wife and I were discussing this concept over the weekend. She named off a few of the movies listed with strong and tough female leads (GI Jane and T2, for example) and said how she definitely appreciates the strong characters, but doesnt think that they work quite as well when the actress doesnt look the part.
We both wondered why they’d let themselves totally regress as well. I can understand not keeping the intense schedule most of them keep to get that way, but knowing how hard it is, why not at least try to cut back and maintain? You’d think they’d have a taste for it after all the hard work. And that like guys, they might get more action/strong woman parts to play.[/quote]
You know, I’ve been thinking about all this, and I was wondering if perhaps the problem is not entirely the actresses and casting directors. What if the problem is our expectations?
I don’t know about this; I’m just thinking it through, so others please feel free to share your thoughts on this.
You know how we all laugh at newbie women who think that if they pick up anything bigger than the 5lb dumbbells that they’ll get hyoooge? We tell them that most women have trouble getting even medium, never mind hyooge, without chemical assistance. When I look at pictures of women athletes, some of them are visibly muscular, but a lot of them wouldn’t get a second look on the street for their level of muscularity.
It’s hard for me to use my own body to judge, because I’m carrying more fat than is optimal, so my definition isn’t what I’d like, but we’ve got a lot of really buff women on this site (you know who you are). If you’re just walking around, not deliberately flexing your muscles, would people notice your muscularity? For some genetically gifted or extremely dedicated women, the answer is definitely yes. But, I wonder if that’s true across the board.
Just as a reality check, I went to Mistress Krista’s website -certainly not someone who is afraid to go heavy. In some of her posed pictures you can see real muscularity. But, when she’s not flexed, I don’t think she’d get second looks for her degree of development.
See, for example: stumptuous.com/gallery/view_photo.php?
set_albumName=album05&id=sandbag_clean_midway_1
You can see a little definition, but not much.
So, is if possible that the reason we tend not to see too many really muscular actresses is because it’s so difficult for them to build enough muscle that it’s obvious without the woman deliberately flexing?
[quote]marza wrote:
Plisskin wrote:
My wife and I were discussing this concept over the weekend. She named off a few of the movies listed with strong and tough female leads (GI Jane and T2, for example) and said how she definitely appreciates the strong characters, but doesnt think that they work quite as well when the actress doesnt look the part.
We both wondered why they’d let themselves totally regress as well. I can understand not keeping the intense schedule most of them keep to get that way, but knowing how hard it is, why not at least try to cut back and maintain? You’d think they’d have a taste for it after all the hard work. And that like guys, they might get more action/strong woman parts to play.
You know, I’ve been thinking about all this, and I was wondering if perhaps the problem is not entirely the actresses and casting directors. What if the problem is our expectations?
I don’t know about this; I’m just thinking it through, so others please feel free to share your thoughts on this.
You know how we all laugh at newbie women who think that if they pick up anything bigger than the 5lb dumbbells that they’ll get hyoooge? We tell them that most women have trouble getting even medium, never mind hyooge, without chemical assistance. When I look at pictures of women athletes, some of them are visibly muscular, but a lot of them wouldn’t get a second look on the street for their level of muscularity.
It’s hard for me to use my own body to judge, because I’m carrying more fat than is optimal, so my definition isn’t what I’d like, but we’ve got a lot of really buff women on this site (you know who you are). If you’re just walking around, not deliberately flexing your muscles, would people notice your muscularity? For some genetically gifted or extremely dedicated women, the answer is definitely yes. But, I wonder if that’s true across the board.
Just as a reality check, I went to Mistress Krista’s website -certainly not someone who is afraid to go heavy. In some of her posed pictures you can see real muscularity. But, when she’s not flexed, I don’t think she’d get second looks for her degree of development.
See, for example: stumptuous.com/gallery/view_photo.php?
set_albumName=album05&id=sandbag_clean_midway_1
You can see a little definition, but not much.
So, is if possible that the reason we tend not to see too many really muscular actresses is because it’s so difficult for them to build enough muscle that it’s obvious without the woman deliberately flexing?[/quote]
Well, the thing is, you can see when a girl is toned. And a lot of them (the actresses) just Arent Even toned!! (classic example: Charlize Theron, she always looks so fat/chubby/puffy/soft/whatever but…shes Skinny…(?)) I have a hard time identifying this with actors too though…Orlando Bloom lol
Like me, on the street people Know Im a sprinter-because of my legs. You get to notice subtleties(subtlety’s?) like that in women.
With guys-they have more testosterone so when you see that guy thats worked at his body like a bodybuilder/or just lifting heavy for his sport or whatnot-youll see that extreme muscle. But sometimes its hard with men too-some powerlifters have real mature muscle so are they fat or is all that bulk muscle?
With girls its the same thing-but your right, we dont get as big-but we usually look a certain way as to you can identify if we’ve worked out just like guys. You just Know Hilary Swank worked out for that Million Dollar Baby-you can see the definition in her arms and legs-its not as dramatic if your comparing her definition to some men-but it is definitely there if your comparing her to women. Same with Jessica Biel, that girl in G.I. Jane, even Jessica Simpson-you Know shes worked on her legs.
So yeah. G2g!