+1 for Gingerbeards!
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We got time, but the window is closing
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Sprinting and weights are compatible, endurance with weights does not align very well. Muscle fibres, energy systems, glycogen, fat mobilisation etc etc.
Most of the sub 25 min runners do little or no strength work at all. I would say that you, Antiquity and a lot of the lifters around here are better runners than sub 25 min runners can lift.
Sub 30 mins is a sort of entry level pace, its more than just jogging. sub 25 is reasonable speed but unlikely they will lift much/at all. Sub 20 is decent, can`t remember anyone of that pace lifting. Omats around here is one of the few I have seen that can straddle both disciplines.
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Gonna disagree with you here, amigo.
Sprints use similar energy systems to weights, as you said, meaning that by doing both youāre effectively doubling the amount of leg work youāre doing. This will eat into lower body lift recovery.
Endurance, on the other hand, can act as a recovery modality for lifting by increasing blood flow and cardiac ability. More lifters would be better served adding in more aerobic work in that āzone 2ā level.
There are plenty of lifters around here that successfully combine both endurance and lifting, and are above average at both.
Just to toot my own horn, I run a sub 25 minute 5km and my lifts are nothing to sneeze at, and Iām at the lower end of that pool.
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Sprinting and lifting go well together in that they can compliment each other. Make improvements in your sprints (shorter distances, probably not 400 or 800) and weights can follow. Push your weights and sprint times can improve. The same generally canāt be said with endurance work. Low intensity aerobic work can benefit everyone but improvements in a 5k run will come at a cost in regards to strength for all except the untrained.
edit: I donāt think anyone can be elite in any 2 of those 3 things though.
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Just wanted to give this my full backing. Jonās approach is exactly what I was doing before, and it was awesome to find a dude so successful with it.
Good food choices FIRST: macros second, calories never.
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Certainly seems soullessā¦
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Thatās almost crazy enough to work
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Iām jumped the gun a bit on my response. All in all, I agree that pushing either necessitates that the other needs to lag slightly. However, I vehemently disagree when people state strength and endurance gains and antagonistic to one other. N=1, but my entire training the last few months has been an experiment in building strength while improving endurance, and both have absolutely improved.
They compliment each other in that theyāre similarly intense, but as weāve stated, because theyāre similar if you add too much of one to the other youāre directly competing for resources between them. I also think this is a case of lifting complementing sprinting more than sprinting complements lifting. Lifting will build more resilient muscles and joints and explosive power off the blocks ā itās why a lot of athletes use squats and hang pull variations as assistance work. We donāt see many powerlifters using sprints to improve their squats, or weightlifters using sprints to improve their first pull.
Again though, adding more of one competes with the other. Thereās a point where that line will get crossed and youāre eating resources beyond the beneficial point.
Agree with this. BUT, I still think improvements in aerobic capacity will benefit lifting recovery if approached intelligently. Obviously if you want to push endurance work strength canāt be the focus, and Iām sorry my previous comment didnāt come off that way. Itās the same with certain blocks in lifting though; usually youāre not driving strength, hypertrophy and power all at the same time, you train them in blocks.
My opinion with regards to endurance, strength and sprinting is they follow a continuum as lister just now: endurance/aerobic leads to improvements in work capacity and bloodflow, which benefits lifting, which leads to strength and power for sprinting.
However, since the main point being contested here is aerobic vs lifting, if you want to push endurance, dial back the lifting, but itās still entirely possible to still build strength. If lifting is the goal, use endurance and recovery/work capacity training, but itās still possible to still make improvements.
I could be totally missing what was being stated before, and Iām just soapboxing here for no reason.
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What the fuck is with the blatant gingerism in this log @Edgy my man. Think we need to show these sons of a gun how the redheads roll!!!ā
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@boilerman mate it sounds right up my alley however it would be way too stressful to try and fit it around my family.
My wife isnāt as training friendly and tolerant as I would like 
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Lads and lassies I got the vaccine today and already feel like utter shit
Shivering like fuck. Had to drop some paracetamol. Something I never do.
It better get to fuck by tomorrow man, Iāve got some iron to be throwing around 
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I donāt disagree with anything you said, I think weāre just making different points.
Most people in these logs (including us) are weaker than elite sprinters but much stronger than elite runners. If someone were to make sprinting their main focus, their strength levels would remain higher than if they were to make distance running their main focus.
Thatās how I interpreted @doddfrank ās post
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Agreed. So yes, it was clearly me being a goof and not reading with intent. MY BAD.
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Totally understandable man. I mostly just get weird looks from across the table at dinner.
Not trying to push you in any direction man, but I had a really easy time transitioning to it. All I had to do was drop all the shit I didnāt care to eat (rice, bread, pasta, cereal etc) and add some extra stuff I was already enjoying eating more anyway (any meat, advocado, leafy greens, sour cream, peanut butterā¦ The list goes on)
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Itās such a ānaturalā way to eat to me. I always say āI donāt want to look like something that eats plants: I want to look like something that eats the animals that eats plantsā
That said, bears and oxen eat plants, and theyāre pretty jacked too, so thereās a few ways to go about it for sure.
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If you say youāre gonna start training like a lion, Iām gonna throw up.
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I HAVE been skipping warm-upsā¦
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If youāre going to train like a lion, youāve got to learn to conjugate with them. Canāt be conjugating with no sheep.
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