Strong and Conditioned (ChongLordUno)

So for f… and puffed up, it’s more the context.
“Hench” I have never heard outside of you two. I don’t even think when I’ve been around other Aussies and Scots. Although it could have just been so jumbled up in the mess of other words I didn’t understand that I just didn’t notice.

Eh. Devil’s advocate, but that might just be sample bias. Like if we’re talking to people on this site or in a weight room, their definition of fitness will trend toward lifting. If you were on a track, it might differ.

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Puffed up in this case is an adjective as it describes how he looks, swollen would have also worked, or inflated. F is also used as a adjective in this sentence as it is describing that he looks tired, worn out, knackered.
Hench is not really a common word which is part of the reason I used it, Think henchman, big burly looking people.
The English (used loosely) seem very good at either using words in a different context or making up a new meaning for something. We are also good at using the same word for more than one meaning.

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For sure. The other amusing thing about English is we’re so used to making up words we can all pick up on whatever nonsense out of context

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LOL true true. I am sure sometimes we literally make up words and sayings on the spot and still those around us know what we are trying to convey.

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Still following along in awe here fella. Burpee’s in your sleep at this rate.

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Yeah man I think it’s easily overlooked the fact that regional dialects differ wildly in the UK

You can travel 50 miles and have a completely different accent

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Sample bias? You could probably call it all out bias in this respect with regards to my current mindset.

That’s why I stressed that it was an opinion at the start of the post. I needed to let off some steam.

I’m heading into ‘jaded’ territory again. I think that theatrics and aesthetics is rewarded In this game as opposed to good, clean, basic hard work which in turn is making me double down

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I have always had a bias that trying to Frankenstein your physique by hitting triceps, delts, etc… at certain angles with certain rep schemes and eccentric emphasis, blah, blah is just lame. Counting macros and weighing your food is lame.

Get good at performing: lifting heavy things, running fast, pulling and pushing your bodyweight with ease, and you’ll look like you’re strong and capable. Eat so you can fuel your workouts and recover from them. Everything else takes care of itself.

As for the strength vs conditioning opinion: I think it’s good to emphasize one over the other, and then flip back. I go through phases where I’m more interested in getting my mile time down or running a 5K for a PR or repping out hundreds of burpees, then I go through phases where I want to hit 300 lbs on bench or set or PR on muscle ups. It’s what keeps me interested and pushing forward.

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Doesn’t the fitness industry have enough tribalism without a bunch of us armchair athletes adding to the fire? Why can’t we just support others in what motivates and inspires them?

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To be fair, I support anyone who works hard regardless of their chosen endeavour.

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Wouldn’t it be a bias as well?

During the lockdown from november to february I did lots of cardio, crazy high reps like a workout with 800 air squats, Murphs and so on…

Sure my cardio improved, but I looked definitelyworse than a few months later when I was “Frankensteining” and just going for walks as . Especially in the arms, legs and chest department.

So what, should I say this @ChongLordUno approach sucks? Or is that, like with everything, there are different ways that work, and that work better for each individual?

I would guess that someone like me, ecto, ex-scrawny, long limbs, have no problem to lose weight, would benefit more from my approach. Someone on the other spectrum, from this approach.

Donb’t get me wrong I enjoy both and I have used both for myself and clients

You can do both but it’s harder. Certain mechanisms (like mTOR and AMPK) directly inhibits one another

Any reason you can’t do both

Well you can, it’s pretty much what @dagill2 is doing right now right?

Afterwards it’s a question of time/recovery

I’d be extremely reluctant to use anything I do as examples of efficacy. Certainly above the baseline of “he didn’t die”

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I agree. Fitness tribalism is really dumb imo
as @flappinit had said many times, hard work is magic

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Fitness tribalism is dumb @anna_5588 We’re all in this game for the same reasons

My initial point was raised on the premise that lifting is seen as the superior fitness modality which is a ‘tribal’ viewpoint

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I agree