[quote]gregron wrote:
Here are dome easy to follow guidelines:
Lift “heavy” weights.
Eat enough good food to grow.
Next time you’re in the gym try to either: A. lift heavier weights or B. Lift it more times than before.
If you want a bodypart to grow, train it directly.
If you want a lagging BP to catch up, train it more often.
When you’re training a BP make sure you feel that muscle working throughout the movement.
If your goal is to have any awesome physique then forget about how much you bench/squat/DL… Lots of guys have impressive bench/squat/DL’s but don’t have impressive chests/legs/backs.
Upon achieving swoleness, grow mustache and post pic in the “official mustache thread”!
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I think his examples work for what he’s claiming, which is getting the guy’s squat from 1 plate per side to 3 plates per side. It definitely gets blown out of proportion, with so many posters recommending starting strength to every noobish poster.
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I am still confused. Why would someone be only interested in getting from 1-3 plates as if they can’t do the exact same thing (possibly faster) and actually LOOK like you lift afterwards?
By the time I hit 3 plates a side for good decent reps, I looked like a serious weight lifter, not some guy who just got fatter.
The amount of muscle that guy gained (at least visually) seems to be what I would expect if someone literally sat on their ass and ate Cheetos to put on the same amount of weight.
In bodybuilding it is also about how those reps are done. The goal is muscle stimulation, not just getting a weight in the air.
This tactic seems to bypass that whole mind-muscle connection phase and act as if it doesn’t matter.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Going from 1 to 3 plates is golden for a high school offseason, which is what this program is more geared towards.
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LOL you have been here THREE AND A HALF YEARS and you STILL cant squat 3 plates ONCE
LOL!!!
why are you voicing your opinion about ANYTHING on a site like this???
I believe that starting strength is purely designed to increase the big three lifts, anything else it accomplishes is a by product of increasing the weight of the big three lifts.
This means the program is useless for wanting to look like a cover model, so who ever proposed it should have just kept quiet.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Going from 1 to 3 plates is golden for a high school offseason, which is what this program is more geared towards.
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LOL you have been here THREE AND A HALF YEARS and you STILL cant squat 3 plates ONCE
LOL!!!
why are you voicing your opinion about ANYTHING on a site like this???
when you are so clearly clueless???
WHY
WHY
WHY[/quote]
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If you think I’m giving shitty advice then please argue against that.
It seems you have issues and people are starting to realize that.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Going from 1 to 3 plates is golden for a high school offseason, which is what this program is more geared towards.
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LOL you have been here THREE AND A HALF YEARS and you STILL cant squat 3 plates ONCE
LOL!!!
why are you voicing your opinion about ANYTHING on a site like this???
when you are so clearly clueless???
WHY
WHY
WHY[/quote]
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If you think I’m giving shitty advice then please argue against that.
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why are you giving any fucking advice at all???
you have been on this site for a very long time and are fat and weak
yet espouse your views on the merits of 531 etc like you have anything worthwhile AT ALL to say about them
you have been training for YEARS AND YEARS and cant even squat 3 plates once for fuck sake lol
i am calling you out because based on your results your opinion on ANYTHING related to BB is irrelevant and you should not be giving advice to the likes of the OP who doesnt know what he is doing, if he listens to you he will get nowhere just as in over 3 whole years you have gotten no where.
[quote]DN90 wrote:
That before and after pick is awful to be honest.
And having a near 1:1 ratio of lean to fat mass added is terrible at any stage of a lifter’s development. [/quote]
Doesn’t his appearance have more to do with drinking a gallon of whole milk per day?
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Going from 1 to 3 plates is golden for a high school offseason, which is what this program is more geared towards.
[/quote]
LOL you have been here THREE AND A HALF YEARS and you STILL cant squat 3 plates ONCE
LOL!!!
why are you voicing your opinion about ANYTHING on a site like this???
when you are so clearly clueless???
WHY
WHY
WHY[/quote]
: (
If you think I’m giving shitty advice then please argue against that.
[/quote]
why are you giving any fucking advice at all???
you have been on this site for a very long time and are fat and weak
yet espouse your views on the merits of 531 etc like you have anything worthwhile AT ALL to say about them
you have been training for YEARS AND YEARS and cant even squat 3 plates once for fuck sake lol
i am calling you out because based on your results your opinion on ANYTHING related to BB is irrelevant and you should not be giving advice to the likes of the OP who doesnt know what he is doing, if he listens to you he will get nowhere just as in over 3 whole years you have gotten no where.
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Again, if you think my advice is shit, argue against it. Otherwise, shut up - it’s clear that you’re just rattled because I argued with Prof X.
Again, if you think my advice is shit, argue against it. Otherwise, shut up - it’s clear that you’re just rattled because I argued with Prof X.[/quote]
LOL at this bullshit. Anyone who agrees with me is somehow discredited…because they agreed with me at some point in time.
I just got done going at yolo in another thread so this bullshit where you all try to escape any and all personal criticism by directing it at me somehow is getting really stale.
If you are that fat and weak after three fucking years, I am surprised he is the only one asking why the fuck you are talking so much.
[quote]DN90 wrote:
That before and after pick is awful to be honest.
And having a near 1:1 ratio of lean to fat mass added is terrible at any stage of a lifter’s development. [/quote]
Doesn’t his appearance have more to do with drinking a gallon of whole milk per day?
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Dude, I wouldn’t see him and think weights had anything to do with his “after”. I personally think that is a mistake…but since it works so well and producing so many super strong people…
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Again, if you think my advice is shit, argue against it. Otherwise, shut up - it’s clear that you’re just rattled because I argued with Prof X.[/quote]
Again, why the fuck are you giving ADVICE on a bodybuilding forum when you have trained for MULTIPLE YEARS and are weak AND fat???
OP came to the thread for help - so you, who clearly knows NOTHING based on your own results have decided to pass comment even though you coment is entirely worthless and without merit based on what you yourself have done.
you weigh 210 and cannot squat 3 plates for one fucking rep
you weigh 210 and bench 2 plates for a single
i dont need to see pics to know you look like shit
you should quit the internet guru gig while you are behind and actually go to the gym and do something
3-4 years training and you can barely bench 2 plates while weighing 210???
does not compute.
btw it has nothing to do with Professor X although it is beyond laughable that you call him out about being fat and how you will ‘achieve’ more in BB than him - at your rate of progress you must be expecting to live to 300 for that to happen.
Again, if you think my advice is shit, argue against it. Otherwise, shut up - it’s clear that you’re just rattled because I argued with Prof X.[/quote]
LOL at this bullshit. Anyone who agrees with me is somehow discredited…because they agreed with me at some point in time.
I just got done going at yolo in another thread so this bullshit where you all try to escape any and all personal criticism by directing it at me somehow is getting really stale.
If you are that fat and weak after three fucking years, I am surprised he is the only one asking why the fuck you are talking so much.
I guess that makes me a “yolo-dick-rider”.[/quote]
I stated in this thread that starting strength is not a bodybuilding program and that 5/3/1 is great. Not everyone agrees with all my posts, so they voice their opinions. The whole point of an open forum like this is to have a discussion and then learn from it, which is what most of us are doing.
You both keep arguing against points I’ve never made. Since you’re in disagreement with jpdubya over his recommendation for the OP, argue against him. Instead you spent your time swearing at a kid almost half your age. Don’t you dare swear at me again or call me fat and weak until you can do a damn lunge.
[quote]DN90 wrote:
That before and after pick is awful to be honest.
And having a near 1:1 ratio of lean to fat mass added is terrible at any stage of a lifter’s development. [/quote]
Doesn’t his appearance have more to do with drinking a gallon of whole milk per day?
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Dude, I wouldn’t see him and think weights had anything to do with his “after”. I personally think that is a mistake…but since it works so well and producing so many super strong people…
I mean, it is, right?[/quote]
OP’s plan now isn’t working, and Ripp has street cred.
Look, the OP is weak. SS is a plan that has worked. Hell I have done a routine that looked silly and ridiculous to prove it wrong, and it turned out I was wrong.
There are some tweaks one could do to make it more of a complete body approach, but as you stated somewhere above, press heavy first.
Even something as simple as
day 1- squat, 3x5. leg curl 2x10 standing press 3x5, lateral raise 2x10, pull ups 3x5 curl 2x10
day 2 squat 2x5 Deadlift 1x5 bench 3x5 row 3x5 rear delt raise 2x10 skull crusher 2x10
hit target reps, go up in weight. work out MWF, alternate days every workout.
[quote]DN90 wrote:
That before and after pick is awful to be honest.
And having a near 1:1 ratio of lean to fat mass added is terrible at any stage of a lifter’s development. [/quote]
Doesn’t his appearance have more to do with drinking a gallon of whole milk per day?
[/quote]
Dude, I wouldn’t see him and think weights had anything to do with his “after”. I personally think that is a mistake…but since it works so well and producing so many super strong people…
I mean, it is, right?[/quote]
OP’s plan now isn’t working, and Ripp has street cred.
Look, the OP is weak. SS is a plan that has worked. Hell I have done a routine that looked silly and ridiculous to prove it wrong, and it turned out I was wrong.
There are some tweaks one could do to make it more of a complete body approach, but as you stated somewhere above, press heavy first.
Even something as simple as
day 1- squat, 3x5. leg curl 2x10 standing press 3x5, lateral raise 2x10, pull ups 3x5 curl 2x10
day 2 squat 2x5 Deadlift 1x5 bench 3x5 row 3x5 rear delt raise 2x10 skull crusher 2x10
hit target reps, go up in weight. work out MWF, alternate days every workout. [/quote]
rip lost his street cred when he posted those pictures of zack…all gone, every bit of it.
he turned a skinny dude, into a fat dude that didn’t even look like he lifted weights. FACT!