@ImaMonsta: You will probably need to use straps someday. I used to be like you and think I would never use straps (LOL I even thought I would never use mixed grip but that didn’t last long). One day I was doing some research and decided I should add snatchgrip deadlifts into my routine. After my first attempt at doing SGDL’s, I went out and bought straps. If I also started doing rack pulls, I’m certain I would use straps as well. They are not a crutch, they are just useful for a lot of purposes
Man, straps have helped my tender palms avoid chronic blistering, but I guess I should use gloves. But I feel like they’re douchey shrug.
Overall straps for rowing helped me overload the back more when shooting for reps. To each his own, just a beginner’s 2 cents.
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
the whole feeling the muscle working is just a bunch of bull.[/quote]
Absolutely false. Stop giving advice.[/quote]
oh is it brain waves that is lifting the weight when you lift heavy or is it muscle?
it doesn’t matter whether you “feel” it or not muscle is still whats moving the weight.
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
the whole feeling the muscle working is just a bunch of bull.[/quote]
Absolutely false. Stop giving advice.[/quote]
oh is it brain waves that is lifting the weight when you lift heavy or is it muscle?
it doesn’t matter whether you “feel” it or not muscle is still whats moving the weight. [/quote]
Though true, you can still move a weight through a plane of movement without hitting the intended muscles, or at least not to any significant degree. A lot of folks doing rows or chins are using pretty much all arm to complete the movement because they don’t understand how to pull with the elbows. The weight makes it from A to B, but little is accomplished. Same thing with people that do curls that are almost entirely hip and deltoid with minimal bicep recruitment.
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
the whole feeling the muscle working is just a bunch of bull.[/quote]
Absolutely false. Stop giving advice.[/quote]
oh is it brain waves that is lifting the weight when you lift heavy or is it muscle?
it doesn’t matter whether you “feel” it or not muscle is still whats moving the weight. [/quote]
I don’t see this discussion going well because you seem to have absolutely no understanding of mind-muscle connection at all, but let’s try anyway.
I can do a BB row, and, while using good form, have it work my upper back/traps well, or have it work my lats well, or use mostly my arms, or have it work nothing very well at all. Same goes for almost all other exercises.
Mind-muscle connection is a very important concept, it’s not a ‘bunch of bull,’ and virtually everyone who has built much of a physique will tell you that.
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
the whole feeling the muscle working is just a bunch of bull.[/quote]
Absolutely false. Stop giving advice.[/quote]
oh is it brain waves that is lifting the weight when you lift heavy or is it muscle?
it doesn’t matter whether you “feel” it or not muscle is still whats moving the weight. [/quote]
I don’t see this discussion going well because you seem to have absolutely no understanding of mind-muscle connection at all, but let’s try anyway.
I can do a BB row, and, while using good form, have it work my upper back/traps well, or have it work my lats well, or use mostly my arms, or have it work nothing very well at all. Same goes for almost all other exercises.
Mind-muscle connection is a very important concept, it’s not a ‘bunch of bull,’ and virtually everyone who has built much of a physique will tell you that.[/quote]
now your talking about form, that has nothing to do with " feeling " the muscle. and lol at you thinking somehow you will get nothing out of it, if you are able to increase weight or repetitions without changing form dramatically your getting bigger and stronger. you might change focus a little bit but not close to as much as you seem to think, and it will not make the other muscles involved not grow.
also stop thinking building muscle is set in stone for everyone, giving advice should not be about telling people to do this or else there will be no results. it should be about nudging them in the right direction so that they may find out themselves what works best for them.
Voluntary increase in latissimus dorsi muscle activity during the lat pull-down following expert instruction - PubMed Idiots just going to be idiots…
[quote]DSSG wrote:
Voluntary increase in latissimus dorsi muscle activity during the lat pull-down following expert instruction - PubMed Idiots just going to be idiots… [/quote]
This.
I have a feeling that people who say “mind muscle doesn’t matter” most likely don’t have a decent set of lats.
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
the whole feeling the muscle working is just a bunch of bull.[/quote]
Absolutely false. Stop giving advice.[/quote]
oh is it brain waves that is lifting the weight when you lift heavy or is it muscle?
it doesn’t matter whether you “feel” it or not muscle is still whats moving the weight. [/quote]
I don’t see this discussion going well because you seem to have absolutely no understanding of mind-muscle connection at all, but let’s try anyway.
I can do a BB row, and, while using good form, have it work my upper back/traps well, or have it work my lats well, or use mostly my arms, or have it work nothing very well at all. Same goes for almost all other exercises.
Mind-muscle connection is a very important concept, it’s not a ‘bunch of bull,’ and virtually everyone who has built much of a physique will tell you that.[/quote]
now your talking about form, that has nothing to do with " feeling " the muscle. and lol at you thinking somehow you will get nothing out of it, if you are able to increase weight or repetitions without changing form dramatically your getting bigger and stronger. you might change focus a little bit but not close to as much as you seem to think, and it will not make the other muscles involved not grow.
also stop thinking building muscle is set in stone for everyone, giving advice should not be about telling people to do this or else there will be no results. it should be about nudging them in the right direction so that they may find out themselves what works best for them.[/quote]
I’m actually not talking about form, I’m still talking about feeling the muscle. Yes they are related but it is different, and it is important, as you’ll see others are agreeing.
As to your second point, that is actually why I said “stop giving advice”. YOU are the one that made the statement “feeling the muscle working is a bunch of bull,” which is not nudging someone in the right direction, it’s telling them to completely disregard a very important element of training for hypertrophy. Focusing more on feeling the muscle has been the #1 most important training difference I made as far as helping me progress.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]DSSG wrote:
Voluntary increase in latissimus dorsi muscle activity during the lat pull-down following expert instruction - PubMed Idiots just going to be idiots… [/quote]
This.
I have a feeling that people who say “mind muscle doesn’t matter” most likely don’t have a decent set of lats.
[/quote]
Agreed. Not trying to say I’ve built awesome lats or anything but my lats (and everything else) have made so much better progress since I’ve been putting more emphasis on that and less emphasis on weights moved. not saying people, especially new trainees, should disregard the importance of progression in weight.