it is hard to say whether 5/3/1 or starting strength would have done better by you…
you didn’t do them. you changed them.
you used DB ffs.
I’d say i’ve been lifting 18 months as i fractured both my arms in the 2 year time span.
wtf??
[quote]stinger70 wrote:
Nearlly every routine i’ve ever seen has bi/tri paired with back/chest in one order or another. Not sure what you find strange about that.
I’ve been on an upper/lower split, 2 x per week frequency, that was about the same in terms of gains. I’ve not heard of benching 3 x per week before. When i was benching twice a week i was able to put a bit more weight on the lift, but i’ve made better gains in size since i ditched that method. I was developing a boob-like chest with no upper whatsoever.[/quote]
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That’s because the bench emphasizes more of the lower pecs than the upper pecs. As a result, your lower chest grows larger and gives you that shape.
Do incline bench every other week to offset it if you want. Incline bench places almost entire emphasis on your upper pecs/shoulders.
Just go find a strict BB routine and follow it to the letter. It’s obvious that strength is not at all your concern.
Hey stinger. I’ll give you the ultimate diet and training program GURANTEED to increase your pull-ups and make you look good.
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You ready?
It’s the NO EXCUSES program. Simply put, you don’t make excuses and you get your shit in order.
Accepting responsibility is a difficult part of the program. Most people aren’t tough enough for it because like you they always end up saying some bullshit about how their bodyparts are weird or their hormones are imbalanced.
Meanwhile all that oxygen they were using to make excuses could have been used to get some more push-ups in.
Follow my program and you will see gains you’ve never even dreamed of.
lat pulldowns 110kg for reps… then it turns out that 100kg is his max… posts a video of his ass doing bent over barbell rows… can’t do one pullup?
ya’ll gettin’ trolled…
also, how come when everybody posts a video… it’s always like 100lbs short of “what they’re working with now”… why aren’t they taking the video with what they’re working with now? is it a deload week or something?
honestly… if more people would just leave their ego at the door… i feel like their progress would be much more stellar… gotta quit bullshittin’ themselves…
[quote]stinger70 wrote:
All your lifts are either the same as or weaker than mine yet you could do 14 chin ups and i can do 1? something doesnt add up here. How can we be the same in all lifts except you are 1300% better at one exercise…
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I’m more inclined to believe that magick’s numbers add up and yours don’t. For reference, my numbers are:
Military press: 140
Bench press: 205
Squat: 265
Deadlift: 300
Pullups: 12
and my back is proportionately a lot smaller than yours.
By the way, note how many people have told you to do more pullups, and that you now have at least two progression plans to follow.
Oh, and your story is changing a fair bit. First page in response to RampantBadger you say that your routine is based off the 5/3/1 bodybuilding template, but then you go on to list so many changes that Wendler would probably disown it on sight. Then on page 2 when you post your actual routine it looks absolutely nothing like what Jim wrote (as if that was a surprise). Then on page 3 you say you got the template from the Bodybuilding Bible thread, which as fr0gger has noted is too broad for a beginner.
Ditch the routine you’ve got, go look up a proven routine (plenty to choose from on this site) and follow it to the letter for 6 months. No modifications allowed, not even swapping dumbbells for barbells.
Ball’s in your court, you can either continue to complain on the internet and continue a routine that obviously isn’t working well, or take the advice that you’ve gotten in this thread.
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
lat pulldowns 110kg for reps… then it turns out that 100kg is his max… posts a video of his ass doing bent over barbell rows… can’t do one pullup?
ya’ll gettin’ trolled…
also, how come when everybody posts a video… it’s always like 100lbs short of “what they’re working with now”… why aren’t they taking the video with what they’re working with now? is it a deload week or something?[/quote]
Do you struggle with reading comprehension? 100kg is not my max lat pull wtf is this. Do you understand the difference between a yates row and a lat pull? I stated that i can do 110kg lat pull for reps on a plate loaded machine, and i can yates row 100kg as a max, which was CLEARLY stated in my original post where i wrote my numbers.
100lbs short? lol idiot. The video was 20lbs short, and if you check the date the video was uploaded its about 3 months old. I didn’t take it especially for this post, i just posted it because everyone said i use shit form, and once posted nobody commented on my form.
[quote]238 wrote:
I’m more inclined to believe that magick’s numbers add up and yours don’t. For reference, my numbers are:
Military press: 140
Bench press: 205
Squat: 265
Deadlift: 300
Pullups: 12
and my back is proportionately a lot smaller than yours.
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I dont get what you are saying here. If your back is a lot smaller than mine, and the goal is bodybuilding, then i’ve made more progress than you regardless of pull ups.
Obviously the size of your back when you flex it looks more like the back of someone who does BB rows of 180+lb and can do 15+ pull-ups.
And if you look at that picture, your shoulders and back look considerably larger than your hips. I don’t see what the problem is. I think you have a body-image problem. If you had low testosterone then you wouldn’t be able to build appreciable muscle mass or strength anyhow, and that’s obviously not true if you’re putting 10lb/week onto your dead-lift even a year and a half after you began lifting.
So just get your pull-up/chin up to the level of the rest of your lifts instead of avoiding it cause you can’t do it. Do both pull-downs and chins. Do negatives for chins, then go to your pull-downs. After a week or two of doing proper negatives, start doing small rep/long sets of chins, then do pull-downs.
Only reason i look to have a good v-taper in that picture is because you cant see my hips. Honestly i wish that was what i really looked like! But just below where that photo ends is where my hips go out to the widest point where the joints are, right out to the same width as my shoulders and back, giving me a pear shape and destroying the illusion of width. Like i said in my OP, if i was like 5’7 with narrrow hips i would look decent and have a good taper, but with my height and width of hips i just look like a beanpole, see how i look in my video lol, so narrow.
[quote]stinger70 wrote:
I dont get what you are saying here. If your back is a lot smaller than mine, and the goal is bodybuilding, then i’ve made more progress than you regardless of pull ups.[/quote]
Because when you were talking to magick:
[quote]stinger70 wrote:
All your lifts are either the same as or weaker than mine yet you could do 14 chin ups and i can do 1? something doesnt add up here. How can we be the same in all lifts except you are 1300% better at one exercise…
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Something doesn’t add up here, and that something is your back. Regardless if you’re bodybuilding or not, that’s a serious strength imbalance on your part, not magick being freakishly good on pull ups.
Just find someone who likes your silhouette. Stop focussing on yourself. You are the problem i do not care how you look. Take a survey, who does ?
Yeah I’m just going to add what I assume every member has posted and then left and read nothing. You are just getting fat at this point. Diet d own. Your lower body will evaporate and you won’t think you have over developed anything. That’s what it is non-negotioable. It’s not the end of the world. I’m the same way my lower body gets the biggest, but is the first thing to go.