Awesome: how much are you betting?
for the hobby or for the age ?
take easy, broā¦ donāt do hard way. now here is forum, not a gym.
nice profile pic btw
The fact you withdrew your bet says it all 
Hope you can one day figure out how to train my dude!
you realy missunderstand what i want to say in my post.
but iām happy to learn how the people react on overproducing adrenaline state from too much training. 
i hope youāll take couple days off, dude
Why do you hope that? And go ahead and clarify what you meant. It looked like you were betting I was under 30 years of age.
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To be fair @T3hPwnisher mate
With that ripped bod itās an easy mistake to make 
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Personally I think so much of our results depends upon our nutrition. The reality is most training styles work and maybe itās better to move from one type to another every now and again (think it was Mike Isreatel who said that).
The thing is a lot of people make a living off selling the latest and newest āworkout trendā or special techniques and if they let the truth out that most splits are fine but you need to eat properly they would end up broke pretty quickly as nutrition just isnāt that sexy to sell online.
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I kinda disagree with this @rugby_lifting mate however my opinion is purely anecdotal
It comes down to the training
Are people training hard enough? Like really fucking hard?
The vast majority are not amd their results reflect it
I managed to hit sub 15% bf by training balls to the wall. I still ate junk and Iām 43.
Let the training dictate the results
Let the food dictate the recovery
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Damndest thing too: I managed to achieve that by actually learning what works for me within 22 years of training.
But sure, Iāll just take training advice from a dude who canāt even figure out how to train himself and then flees when called out on being catty, haha.
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Or even worse
A dude whoās never ever posted progress pics
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On this, I think you and @rugby_lifting are actually saying the same thing.
Deep Water works. Itās 10x10 squats. Super Squats works. Itās 1x20 squats. Both are just hard f**king work. Completely different training styles: same core principle. And after doing 10x10 squats, spending some time doing 1x20 is an awesome change that will still get you results by prevent you from going stagnant compared to if you just hammer 10x10 forever.
The issue is when people try to avoid the hard work with āadvancedā training. No matter what reps, sets or percentages you employ, if you arenāt working hard, itās not going to work.
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Yes that was what I was trying to say. Thank you for articulating that better than me.
I know what has worked for me (and itās a few different programmes) but I also know what I enjoy more of those programmes.
Iāve made good progress on 531, on an upper/ lower and on a meadows split which has been my favourite and probably the best progress because Iāve been able to focus on my weak points.
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Since this thread was last updated before you bumped it 8 months later, Iāve been doing several programs that do not feature training to failure including what Iām currently doing with the 5/3/1 Boring but Big 3 Month Challenge, and I am every bit as tired and overall fatigued after one of these sessions as I was when I was doing failure training with HIT, DC, and Fortitude Training. The extra volume brings me a level of fatigue that might even be beyond what I felt with training to failure with lower volume. If youāre training hard enough to grow, itās gotta be hard, itās gotta be significant. You canāt escape fatigue, you just have to make sure to eat and sleep enough to make up for it.
Pepsi is gross by the way.
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take it easy ,dude ā¦ donāt need your advice and your Justice .calm down
case closed
cool
No worries dude; I donāt need yours as well, so we have that in common
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Reading this thread was stimulating and then fatiguing
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Not only is such talk fatiguing, it certainly can take the fun out of it all.
I have been in some gyms that have the biggest names in bodybuilding along with some seriously impressive natural bodybuilders and most do not know of some gurus mentioned here, nor do they endlessly ponder about training variables discussed.
Though that doesnāt discredit some gurus useful info, it says something.
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I have a good idea for a study. Hypothesis: Linear increases in brain stimulus positively correlated with geometric increase in muscle failure AKA failure to gain muscles.
Summary of the first one minute and twenty seconds: We are joined here by Paul Carter and Dr. Mike Israetel ā¦ they are both EXPERTS who SPECIALISE in muscle gain and hypertrophyā¦
I donāt even need to listen to the rest of it to know theyāre both right.
I just posted about principles not long ago, so this has been on my mind. I always found it weird when two guys who were successful with two different approaches point to each other and say the other guyās method doesnāt work. This literally happens in every field and to me it just seems like a blatant disregard of basic logic. If it didnāt work, then why did it work? Iām not talking about āyour way works but not as well as my wayā, Iām talking about āonly my way works and your way cannot workā. Any of you guys who do another thing other than lifting know what Iām talking about when I say this goes on in every field. Apparently itās impossible to learn a language / get good at drawing / learn the piano / teach a child to read / lose weight / gain weight / get good at video games / write a computer program / shoot a rifle / be good at jiu jitsu / squat an elite number / build an elite physique - if you do it using X method [which such and such World Champions use but thatās irrelevant] instead of using Y method [which I use, oh and such and such World Champions do it too which is very relevant].
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