Stimulus to Fatigue Ratio w/ Mike Israetel & Paul Carter

Freedom of choice is a terrifying prospect to people, because it puts the onus on them to make a decision and decide their fate. People would much rather have NO choice or, at the most, one choice, so that they don’t have to play an active role in their fate. It’s why they are in such a rush to disprove things, because the alternative, that there are MANY ways to succeed, is terrifying.

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  • I don’t have time.
  • My genetics.
  • I followed the program but got no results.
  • Is this optimal?
  • Can I do this?
  • Should I do program X or program Y? Please cast your votes and decide my future.
  • Yes, I know that program you suggested has countless success stories, but I read a study that says [insert reason why program contradicts science] so I won’t be doing it.

It’s terrifying because it means YOU failed, not the not-you thingy.

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The burden of choice is an interesting topic. Stores like Aldi’s actually run that as their business model. There’s a customer “cost” to choosing; we’d rather just grab something.

We also don’t like the feeling of no choice, as you mention, we just want few. Having other choices that we’re able to quickly deem inferior makes us feel better about our choice. It’s why we see portfolios of products - the business plan is built around selling the mid-grade option, but the economy and premium choices make you feel better about that.

In our world here, I think it’s why we like to pit these systems against each other. HIT has to suck for HVT to be awesome.

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We humans are a silly species, and there are whole industries built around taking advantage of that. And for as much as we like to think we’re so intellectually superior, the puppet strings are too easy to pull.

That said, Miracle Whip is better than Mayo and In n Out is both overrated AND amazing.

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Agreed, and I was born and raised in the south

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Were you a “butter instead of mayo on a sandwich” type, or did I go too midwest there?

I’ve never used butter on a cold cut type Sammy, but I’ve fried plent of Sammy’s with butter and Mayo

I just watched the whole video. I was surprised they seemed to pretty much agree on everything.

I’d say the biggest problem between them is their estimation of how big of a deal the fatigue on the failure rep is. They both agree that it’s purely hypothetical how many “units” of fatigue that rep is. They both agree that going to failure is much more efficient, but because Mike is more concerned about that failure fatigue, he approaches “efficiency” as a long term thing (longevity = efficiency) whereas Paul is less worried about that fatigue and would rather wait untilscale back a rep or two from failure on the most fatiguing exercises as needed / if needed. It also comes down to which stereotypical problem case they think represents the typical problem (people usually go too hard vs people usually don’t go hard enough).

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Paralysis analysis is a major problem in the fitness community (and really, many other areas of life). What I’ve found beneficial for me is to be very specific on what my goals are and to be realistic on how many days of the week I can go to the gym/do cardio/train at home. This specificity narrows down the training programs I should be running.

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