Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
[quote]dopeman wrote:
Sure basketball is a skill sport but there are alot of players that are in the League mainly for their explosiveness and athleticism.
Do people here honestly think that he’s better off with some soccer coach than if he was training with some of the T-Nation coaches?
Imagine steve nash doing this…
- YouTube [/quote]
steve nash can dunk, he just prefers to do quick lay ups. I’m pretty sure he has done olympic lifting and squatting-thats the way he would train with team at least- This just looks like a routine he does for fun, balance coordination kind of stuff.
I remember a picture of him in a b-ball magazine some time ago squatting in a powercage. I don’t really buy those pro-workouts outlined in magazines and on the internet.
[quote]PGA wrote:
Steve Nash plays professional basketball and has won the MVP, twice. The people questioning his routine, post on T-Nation.com
Kobe put on 25lbs one off-season and it hurt his game considerably, his words. He lost the extra weight and felt better physically on the court the following year.
Anybody questioning their methods is beyond ridiculous.[/quote]
Yeah but like so what.
It’s much more fun to criticise those stupid millionaire elite athletes who don’t know what they’re doing. We here at T-Nation hold ALL the keys. Mwuh hahahahaha.
[quote]dopeman wrote:
Do people here honestly think that he’s better off with some soccer coach than if he was training with some of the T-Nation coaches?[/quote]
OK, so you’re inferring that this “some soccer coach” is somehow inferior to some of the trainers on T-Nation? How many MVPs have all the coaches on T-Nation combined, ever, trained again?
Are you KIDDING me?
Yes I will FLAT OUT say it. He is better off with his current “some soccer coach” than the trainers on T-Nation.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game. [/quote]
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.[/quote]
Shaq is like 300 pounds. Ben Wallace has nearly 20 inch arms. I believe both of them. But you’ll notice Shaq is squatting pussy weight in the Icy Hot Ads. It looks like he’s using the barbell and weights from one of those plastic aerobics sets. If I were him I wouldn’t want to be filmed with that weight.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game. [/quote]
What makes you think these guys are just ``riding off their natural talent?‘’ are you really that ignorant?
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.[/quote]
Shaq also weighs 450. bodyweight bench, fairly decent.
[quote]PGA wrote:
dopeman wrote:
Do people here honestly think that he’s better off with some soccer coach than if he was training with some of the T-Nation coaches?
OK, so you’re inferring that this “some soccer coach” is somehow inferior to some of the trainers on T-Nation? How many MVPs have all the coaches on T-Nation combined, ever, trained again?
Are you KIDDING me?
Yes I will FLAT OUT say it. He is better off with his current “some soccer coach” than the trainers on T-Nation.[/quote]
Yeah. Do whatever works for you.
I’ll go even further and say that some T-Nation coaches would train Nash the same way as his “some soccer coach” does, except maybe for the bosu ball.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.
Shaq also weighs 450. bodyweight bench, fairly decent.[/quote]
450 bench is great. Bodyweight bench is just decent. Is Shaq’s bench great or decent?
BTW, isn’t Shaq only around 350?
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.
Shaq also weighs 450. bodyweight bench, fairly decent.
450 bench is great. Bodyweight bench is just decent. Is Shaq’s bench great or decent?
BTW, isn’t Shaq only around 350?[/quote]
‘claims’ reek of bs especially when I came across this list of other athletes and celebs ‘claimed’ bench. Some are believable some I would never believe-wilt doing near 500 bench HAH-
[quote]shizen wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
Word is Ben Wallace claims he can bench press like 455. It pisses me off when pro athletes just ride off their natural talent and don’t try to be the best they can be. Maybe I’d hate basketball less if more guys built like brutes and juggernauts got out there and made it less of a ball-handling-skill game.
ya, shaq is also claiming a 450 bench.
Shaq also weighs 450. bodyweight bench, fairly decent.
450 bench is great. Bodyweight bench is just decent. Is Shaq’s bench great or decent?
BTW, isn’t Shaq only around 350?
‘claims’ reek of bs especially when I came across this list of other athletes and celebs ‘claimed’ bench. Some are believable some I would never believe-wilt doing near 500 bench HAH-
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To be honest its hard to say shaqs weight. They have gone from too high to weigh on a average human scale, down to 305. I’m assuming at his highest he’s probably been up to 360-375 fat. That’s not to say they don’t have plenty of scales that go over 350 but him being the cocky arrogant luvable prick that he is didn’t want to advertise his weight when he was at his heaviest.
450 is great for mere mortals, pretty good for anybody, but not mind blowing for shaq.
I’ve seen the list for the athletes before, I agree I could never see wilt doing 500 but outside of him, many of the others seem pretty easily attainable. Wilt was known to live larger than life, the type of guy to exagerate. After all he did say he slept with over 30,000 women.
[quote]PGA wrote:
Steve Nash plays professional basketball and has won the MVP, twice. The people questioning his routine, post on T-Nation.com
Kobe put on 25lbs one off-season and it hurt his game considerably, his words. He lost the extra weight and felt better physically on the court the following year.
Anybody questioning their methods is beyond ridiculous.[/quote]
Everybody spends their time talking about what the coach should have done or why such player should or should not be on the roster and what not, why would this be any more ridiculous?
Oh yeah. Bosu balls are basically horrible for developing strength, but Steve Nash is not part of a power lifting association. Anybody who has had tons of sprained ankles knows the benefits of performing exercises on them. They help you regain the flexibility and strength around the ankles that you had at various ankles.
Kobe had a terrific year, the year he gained 25lbs. He was explosive 360 dunks on everybody, had the boxing, chain squatting commercial. Only problem he ran into is your tendons don’t always grow as fast as your muscles. He developed knee pain by the end of the year running and jumping with that extra weight, which lead to less practices and less conditioning come play off time. Same thing they fear for Greg Oden.
Muscles have their place but they have to be applied judiciously to sports. Muscle heads don’t ever seem to know that.
[quote]shizen wrote:
‘claims’ reek of bs especially when I came across this list of other athletes and celebs ‘claimed’ bench. Some are believable some I would never believe-wilt doing near 500 bench HAH-
100% Injury Rate: George W. Bush benches more than Kevin Durant [/quote]
Dubya benches 185x5? Bobb Sapp does 600+? Wow…