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that’s a bit much, TBH. The facebook statuses I’m seeing make me feel like Jesus died again.
I’m pretty sure every major CEO and every entrepreneur considered him an inspiration in how to run a company and build a brand. Some friends of mine have worked at or currently work at Apple, and they all give similar anecdotes about him, what it was like to work with him, his temperament, his obsession.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
that’s a bit much, TBH. The facebook statuses I’m seeing make me feel like Jesus died again.[/quote]
My friend said the same thing and I agree, but let people say what they want so they move on. If we want something to die or stop growing, we should stop paying attention to it.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
that’s a bit much, TBH. The facebook statuses I’m seeing make me feel like Jesus died again.[/quote]
That’s what I was going to say… the facebook stuff gets kind of tacky, with friend’s status updates being quotes from Jobs.
I think it’s a bit silly to ever direct your comments toward someone as though they can actually read it.
I mean say something about it if you like, I did ( my status today: If this is facebook when Steve Jobs dies I wonder how crazy it’ll be when Elvis dies?!) but “Steve Jobs…thanks for sharing your wonderful vision with us…RIP” is just awful!
[quote]therajraj wrote:
He developed the GUI operating system, most of what you see in front of you is a result of him. To put this into simple terms you can understand, he made computers user-friendly so the average person could use them without needing a computer science degree. What you don’t realize is this innovation has indirectly helped feed the poor, fight poverty and education millions of people. [/quote]
To put this into simple terms you can understand: you’re fucking wrong. Jobs didn’t develop the GUI operating system.
I don’t feel sad for people I don’t know but I wish him the best.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I’m dead serious. Look, I get it. He was an innovator and perhaps it’s in poor taste for me to slam his vapid accomplishments so soon after his death. But my point still stands. I’m sure Jobs used his wealth to help a lot of people and all that, but what has anything he has created really done for any of us? Has the iPod helped anyone here become a better person? Has the iPad directly done one single thing to erase poverty in this country, or any other country? When was the last time your iPhone helped put food in the stomach of a hungry single mother? And before people start spouting off about his philanthropy I remind you of the parable about the rich guy making a show of his donations to the church in the front row and the poor woman in the back who gives one coin a week, the only coin she has.[/quote]
If you weren’t so arrogant, you’d realize there are Apps in the Apple Store to do all of the things you listed.
Ignorant cretin.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
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Fucking COMIC SANS!
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I’m dead serious. Look, I get it. He was an innovator and perhaps it’s in poor taste for me to slam his vapid accomplishments so soon after his death. But my point still stands. I’m sure Jobs used his wealth to help a lot of people and all that, but what has anything he has created really done for any of us? Has the iPod helped anyone here become a better person? Has the iPad directly done one single thing to erase poverty in this country, or any other country? When was the last time your iPhone helped put food in the stomach of a hungry single mother? And before people start spouting off about his philanthropy I remind you of the parable about the rich guy making a show of his donations to the church in the front row and the poor woman in the back who gives one coin a week, the only coin she has.[/quote]
If you weren’t so arrogant, you’d realize there are Apps in the Apple Store to do all of the things you listed.
Ignorant cretin.[/quote]
This coming from someone who can’t even spell “Machiavelli” correctly. Of course, I doubt you and I are thinking of the same person. Do you even know who Machiavelli was, other than the guy whose name Tupac borrowed?
If you weren’t such a fucking idiot you’d realize that my arrogance runs so deep I would never make the statements that you refer to without first checking to see if I’m actually right. Guess what? Jobs didn’t invent Give Work, Donation Connect, CauseWorld or any of the other apps designed to fight poverty around the world. For instance, CauseWorld was made by a company called Shopkick, NOT Apple.
And besides, those apps are empty and don’t do nearly enough to address the issue. It’s one thing to donate $.99 with the push of a button. It’s an entirely different thing to actually spend physical time with the less-fortunate. All those apps do is help to further insulate us from the harsh realities of the world we live in. They do nothing but reduce poverty down to some abstract level so that we don’t have to think about it in larger terms and can continue to live comfortably without having to confront anything head-on. They allow us to feel good about ourselves without having to make any tangible sacrifices.
I don’t think an app that allows us to avoid actual contact with the poor is a good thing. It’s the face-to-face time and effort that people put in that makes a difference because it makes a difference not only for those we help, but for our own attitudes and sense of gratitude for what we have. Others see how those who put this time and effort in change in attitude and outlook and they are encouraged and inspired to do the same.
[quote]Bigdick1000 wrote:
Who cares[/quote]
You are obviously young and obviously stupid. I doubt you will even read this but I’m writing it anyway. Steve Jobs contributed more to this world in one day than you will your whole life. “Who cares?” His family, his friends, who knows how many employees that worked for him, and millions of people around the world. Everyone knows he is gone and are saddened by it. If everyone lived their life where they would be sincerely missed by everyone they touched, this world would be a much better place. If you died today, “who cares” is probably what a lot of people would say that had the pleasure, or displeasure, of knowing you.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
He developed the GUI operating system, most of what you see in front of you is a result of him. To put this into simple terms you can understand, he made computers user-friendly so the average person could use them without needing a computer science degree. What you don’t realize is this innovation has indirectly helped feed the poor, fight poverty and education millions of people. [/quote]
To put this into simple terms you can understand: you’re fucking wrong. Jobs didn’t develop the GUI operating system.
I don’t feel sad for people I don’t know but I wish him the best.[/quote]
No I am not. I didn’t say they Invented it. Xerox invented the product, but failed to do anything with it. They were ready to give up on it.
Steve Jobs and Apple were the first to DEVELOP a GUI product that anyone actually cared about.
Completely ignoring all the classless comments that have come before…
His 2005 speech at Stanford is one of those I still 6 years later think about.
A good write up at Wired.com:
Jobs | WIRED
RIP Steve Jobs and godspeed.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
You’ll find most people on this site will take every opportunity to cut someone down if they’ve accomplished something. Go look though any thread about someone who has recently died and you’ll see what I mean.
Absolutely disgusting.
Guy with a physique better than 90% of posters here dies?
LOL he deserved it! He was skinny! What a shit physique!
Guy who starts an empire that successfully strips hipsters of their money?
LOL who cares! I hate Apple anyway lol!11[/quote]
This.
I did just hear a stupid guy on CNN…looked like a Hipster…and he was being interviewed about the death and he said (quoting as much as I can remember) "I have a Mac Book, iPod, iPad and iPhone and I think there isn’t anyone in the world who hasn’t at least touched an Apple product today"
I almost don’t believe the last sentence myself…but I’m pretty sure he said “world”
Maybe his world consists only of other upper middle class white hipsters,
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
And before anyone accuses me of unjustifiably getting on my high horse, I really DO help with this sort of thing, okay? So I my stance isn’t one of hypocrisy. I volunteer at soup kitchens, I donate my time on the weekends and once a week in the evenings taking care of a 90 year-old woman because no one else will, I volunteer time as a mentor to young teenaged foster children, I’ve practically taken a vow of poverty to work as a teacher in a public school. And it isn’t because I want summers off.[/quote]
This is the same mentality as “I’m not a racist, I HAVE BLACK FRIENDS, so I am qualified in saying stupid shit on the subject”
You have such a nurturing personallity, I bet you’re as hardcore of a liberal as they come, I also bet you fucking lactate quarts of estrogen filled breast milk a day
you write, serve soup, read books to kids, and scrub corns on old ladies feet, yea you’re a real fucking HERO this world could not possibly survive without you. Do you ever realize how fucking EASY it is to do the things that you do? I mean liberal arts-cereal box degree-dreams of adolescent girls type shit
If you didn’t do these things some other bitch would.[/quote]
It’s not at all the same thing.
Not that I think Job’s should be shit on, but it really is everyday hero’s that make a difference. I am willing to bet that while you talk about how easy it is to give your time helping others, you don’t give anything. Self absorbed twats like you are exactly who he is talking about.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
And before anyone accuses me of unjustifiably getting on my high horse, I really DO help with this sort of thing, okay? So I my stance isn’t one of hypocrisy. I volunteer at soup kitchens, I donate my time on the weekends and once a week in the evenings taking care of a 90 year-old woman because no one else will, I volunteer time as a mentor to young teenaged foster children, I’ve practically taken a vow of poverty to work as a teacher in a public school. And it isn’t because I want summers off.[/quote]
This is the same mentality as “I’m not a racist, I HAVE BLACK FRIENDS, so I am qualified in saying stupid shit on the subject”
You have such a nurturing personallity, I bet you’re as hardcore of a liberal as they come, I also bet you fucking lactate quarts of estrogen filled breast milk a day
you write, serve soup, read books to kids, and scrub corns on old ladies feet, yea you’re a real fucking HERO this world could not possibly survive without you. Do you ever realize how fucking EASY it is to do the things that you do? I mean liberal arts-cereal box degree-dreams of adolescent girls type shit
If you didn’t do these things some other bitch would.[/quote]
It’s not at all the same thing.
Not that I think Job’s should be shit on, but it really is everyday hero’s that make a difference. I am willing to bet that while you talk about how easy it is to give your time helping others, you don’t give anything. Self absorbed twats like you are exactly who he is talking about.[/quote]
Well, for what it’s worth, I give VERY freely of both my time and money, and I’m only able to do these things because technology allows me to reach an incredible number of people, share my knowledge, and make money doing it.
I won’t say that everything I do is thanks to Apple, but the way I currently do it is enhanced to an incalculable degree by tech. There is a direct relationship between Jobs and tech, so, personally, I do feel I owe him a lot.
I wouldn’t have been able to raise $10,000 in 3 weeks for childhood cancer research if not for the access I have to people, and the access they have to me because of their computers.
I am able to volunteer 4-8 hours per week (depending on schedule) because an internet business allows me the freedom of making my own schedule.
Crediting Jobs for what I do is a step too much–but crediting him (at least in part) for my ability to do it isn’t.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
He developed the GUI operating system, most of what you see in front of you is a result of him. To put this into simple terms you can understand, he made computers user-friendly so the average person could use them without needing a computer science degree. What you don’t realize is this innovation has indirectly helped feed the poor, fight poverty and education millions of people. [/quote]
To put this into simple terms you can understand: you’re fucking wrong. Jobs didn’t develop the GUI operating system.
I don’t feel sad for people I don’t know but I wish him the best.[/quote]
No I am not. I didn’t say they Invented it. Xerox invented the product, but failed to do anything with it. They were ready to give up on it.
Steve Jobs and Apple were the first to DEVELOP a GUI product that anyone actually cared about.
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But you didn’t say he developed A GUI. You said he developed THE GUI. It’s like saying: Ford created THE car vs. Ford created A car.
It’s also presumptuous to assume we’d all be hacking away on command line PDP-11 terminals if it weren’t for Steve Jobs’ magical GUI operating system.