Sweatpants make that a world-class physique.
The dude is jacked either way.
Maybe this picture can be the immediate rebuttal to all the “you don’t understand how to build arms; it’s squats”.
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Fucking sweatpants!!!
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Unfortunately, there are people like me who get a messed up view of things. Chasing physiques goals that were unattainable didn’t do me any favors. Did I still make progress? Yes. Was i happy? No. I was hard on myself mentally and it wasn’t healthy.
It doesn’t matter what other people do. But it is nice to know the details behind the curtain just so we have some perspective.
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I get that… but it can become a destructive habit for some Imo
My favorite part of the work from home environment is finishing up at the gym in the morning and changing into my business sweatpants
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You’re a better man than I. I still find it hard to believe. I’m 5’7" and 205 in my avatar. No where near the level of leanness he is but still… I got 15lbs on this dude? I think not but my legs are pretty big (just not long!)
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At 5’10", 210 lbs with higher BF% (but some ab definition) I find the 190 claim hard to believe. Maybe my legs are bigger, but I think I would have about that level of upper body mass at 240. His legs do look small, but they can only be so small and support the upper body (they may look large on a 170 lb guy, and just small due to his upper body).
On this particular claim, I need to see evidence that the guy actually is 5’10", and see what he weighs on a scale looking how he does when jacked. I can’t just take his word on it. Lots of fake natties have downplayed their weight to sound more truthful. Oh, he only weighs 180, probably natty (guy is diced to the bone at 205 IRL).
@mnben87 I had to google the guy of course and all the photos I see of him claiming ~180lbs he looks much smaller than these recent pics. What is weight is aside… he is not natty. No way, no how.
Do you think anyone could achieve that natty? I kinda think the freaks could. I think Ronnie probably achieved that level of development (better because he also had developed legs) before using gear. Now I would say it is an understatement to say Ronnie had 1/1M genetics for BBing (perhaps 1/1B). We don’t really know exactly when Ronnie started saucing, but he had stalled out at around 230 lbs lean for a while before making a ton of progress and getting up over 300 lbs lean. I kinda think Ronnie was 220-230 lbs jacked natty.
Does Andre claim to be natural? Has anyone seen that anywhere? 
Truly… I don’t. Kai Greene probably has some of the best early photos before they had enough time on the sauce.
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Here Kai…
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I dont know about being a better man… im just too old to get wrapped up on being right. So it doesn’t bug me to admit when I’m i probably mistaken.
I will admit… for some reason even after seeing his leg development. I find myself still debating with myself regarding his claimed stats. Not that it matters in all reality.
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Well, given his leg size, it shows that roids don’t do all the work for you so angry natties can shut the fuck up now,
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I thought his legs were big when I was looking at the same pic you did so I’m wrong too lol. Not a big deal.
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Nah but that’s just because there are more androgen receptors in the upper body than lower body so of course steroids wouldn’t help his legs grow! I bet he didn’t have to train at all to get those delts. Classic roid physique
(Sarcasm, to be clear)
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This is why I think natties are dumb.
Why are they always whining about roid users doing more flexing in the mirror than actually working out? It’s because they DON’T HAVE TO WORKOUT! These natty fellows have read all the studies and can’t piece this simple thing together?
Dumbasses.
(Sarcasm too)
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Well don’t tell those natties about more than 5 rep sets. Then they’ll find out about “the pump” and they’re never gonna shut up about it.
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He is probably genetically gifted.
He probably takes steroids to be even bigger.
He also has professionals shooting his pictures and videos and they know how to use camera angles and different lenses to make him look even bigger.
Said professionals also probably know how to do post-processing (photoshop basically) to make him look even bigger.
Look up some of his videos on youtube. His proportions frequently look narrower than they do in these photos. On the other hand the he often looks bigger than people he is standing near due to the way his cameraman has framed a lot of shots, i.e. he is standing closer to the camera and angled so the lens distortion isn’t too obvious, with the camera height placed in such a way that he looks the same height as other people, just way thicker.
Everybody does it.
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Good points you made. I can definitely see that happening.