Hi guys. I’m currently on TRT and been on for 4 years with no problem. I would like to do a test E and Masteron E + Primo cycle but I have a slight problem: I literally can’t do IM injections because they cause severe inflammation at the join insertion point of the muscle I inject in. My Doc and I have tested this at multiple sites, with different needle sizes and lengths and with different esters. The inflammation lasts for about 3 weeks and completely immobilises the joint, we’ve even done it without injecting anything, just sticking the needle into the muscle triggers the reaction.
I’m wondering if it’s okay to inject gear SubQ into various locations 2x a week? I already do my TRT dose subQ 2x a week, but wondering if I can inject other compounds such as Masteron SubQ?
Your talking about two major differences of injecting small amounts of trt dose test and blast amounts of gear.
Where injecting 0.3ml of test sub q won’t be an issue trying to inject multiple ml of mast and primo each week is gonna have a whole new set of problems.
Not sure about everyone but I know my gear clearly states “IM use only” and this is for a good reason.
It’s labelled IM because that’s what it’s approved for. Most guys are going to get lower levels of test via sub-q, at varying degrees, but other than that it shouldn’t matter a bit.
It would produce a noticeable bump unless you’re pretty fat, but I don’t know other than that really, depending on where I suppose. IM is more effective, but I don’t think this guy has much choice.
: My reccomendation would be look into an oral/multiple orals to run along side the trt dose.
I have an above average amount of muscle and I get complications such a PIP and discomfort when injecting multiple MLs into smaller muscle groups. I think if you try to sub q a syringe of test/mast/primo twice a week you will discover very quickly its not a feasible plan for a cycle.
Coming from someone who does IM Injections I have to rotate my spots when using large amounts to avoid issues. By the 3rd week you will probably be covered in big oil welts in whichever spots you use to inject.
This is just my thoughts I could be 100% wrong as I have no first hand experience using sub q method.
If you can’t do IM injections then primo is out of the question. Even with just trt levels of test you’re still looking at maybe 5ml of primo oil that you’re going to be finding a spot for. It’ll get very old very fast.
Why are you injecting at the site of a joint? Firstly, with IM shots for hormones you want to inject into the muscle, not the capsule of the joint and secondly, if you’re injecting within the capsule of a joint (like one might with say a corticosteroid injection)… you’re going waaayyy too deep
You ever shoot into the lateral head of you’re tricep, creates a nice visual enhancement that lasts 7-10 days (in which case you can rinse/repeat), potential for scar tissue formation does exist though
If you’re not shooting directly into the joint capsule like you’d specified earlier (shooting IM AAS into joint capsules is an awful idea regardless as they aren’t formulated for such use) switch testosterone esters. Propanoic acid is a well known irritant to skeletal muscle, many simply can’t handle it (hypersensitive reaction)
Also for 99.99 percent of the populace 490mg test prop weekly isn’t TRT, it’s a cycle… don’t kid yourself lol
Perhaps it isn’t the biggest cycle. But it’s a blast nonetheless
I have one time. It was tren ace and it gave me probably the worse pip iv ever had. It was a dull ache that lasted for 3 days. Maybe if it wasn’t tren it wouldn’t have been so bad.
So I need to explain something here before I proceed as this post will seem strange, perhaps as if there is something slightly off with me.
Six weeks I discontinued SSRI use completely, and whilst the benefits of not using appear to outweigh the risks, I do have an elevated level of anxiety and appear to be more prone to irritating thought loops again…
With that out of the way, with deadlifting straps I managed to pull 315x14, so I decided to go for a PR yesterday (195kg)… unfortunately… I lost the straps (looked everywhere, this devastated me as I haven’t been able to find another pair of straps replicatable in terms of how tight the grip is etc. so I went to train without the straps, absolutely struggled to hit 180x2, then did sets with 315, which to my dismay, my grip was giving out after 8 reps, then 6 reps… then even one rep would cause my grip to give way… I was terribly upset, my ego destroyed
So today… as in the day after… I purchased new straps of a similar design, they aren’t as good but they get the job done.
Regardless I initially went for my first work set and couldn’t even pull 180… perhaps CNS fatigue? Either way I’m crushed, how long will it take for me to merely be able to pull 180 again (180 is 405), I leave to Europe in 2.5 days and would like to have one last good session in terms of deadlifting… perhaps if I carb load dramatically?
Regardless I ended up not deadlifting at all today as I realized I probably did need time for a rest… but 78 ish hours, is that a long enough break?
Getting weaker infuriates me
I assume perhaps deadlifting yesterday and 20 rep leg exercises may have overtaxed my CNS… but how feasible is this realistically given I was on dbol at the time
I’m not a fan of straps. IMO throw the ego aside, reset your deadlift weigh to 65-80% of
max without straps and then incrementally add weight, in small amounts, each session until you march up to your prior PR with straps. I doubt it will take along, few months maybe.
Don’t worry about the ego thing much. You didn’t lose massive amounts of strength overnight. We all have bad sessions here and there. I usually just bang out what I can and look forward to the next week.