been on the Anabolic diet for a while now and am planning to run a bulking cycle in the next few days. then i started thinking to myself if i would benefit more while on the juice and on a normal diet with the added carbs.
anyone out there that has been on the AD while doing a bulking cycle willing to share their experience??? im realling looking to add some serious muscle with as little fat gain, or even a little fat loss.
my cycle consists of:
Tren ace 300mg/week, 6 weeks
Prop 300mg/week, 6 weeks
Cyp 200mg/week first 6 weeks, then 500mg/week untel week 8
Proviron starting as of week 6 and continuing throughout pct
.25 a-dex ed/eod
nolva 50/40/40/20/20 2 weeks after last inject.
If you get enough calories you’ll still gain mass. I’ve done the AD while using AAS, and it worked just fine. The only problem is high-intensity work capacity. You can do high volume alright, and very few high intensity sets, but you can’t really get a great workout to maximize work output and muscle-building stimulus. Although after a while I was able to get a solid workout in, you may be different. Perhaps add in one carb meal a day before the workout. I’m a fan of low-carb diets, but if work output is compromised then so are the gains. For dieting the workload doesn’t need to be as high, so it works better in those situations. My opinion though.
when i was originally reading up on the anabolic diet i remember that it was created because they were trying to get rid of steroids in pro bodybuilding (so they were looking for a diet that could produce “steroid like results”). the creator said that it was meant to be used without gear but that it would work even better with gear.
The biggest challenge to dialing in the AD is generally the carb-ups and the biggest stumbling block there is Bloat!
During the week most tend to shed water, while the carb-ups tend to cause one to bloat.
Until one is fully fat adapted (several months to a year -or more) it can be common to only look/feel good on 3 to 4 days out of the week.
This can be avoided/diminished but it can take a little while and a lot of discipline to get both components (low carb/carb-up) of the AD working in harmony.
And yes, while the original concept of the AD was to manipulate and take advantage of the body’s hormonal responses to inversely related macro-nutrition, I’m not sure this is even an issue while on AAS.
After-all, if one is supplementing exogenous hormones and essentially shutting down or wildly altering endogenous hormone production…I don’t see where the principles of the AD would even be valid any longer. Perhaps I’m mistaken though.
Bottom line, if you’re good and comfortable on the AD; fully fat adapted and all dialed in -then have at it!
But if you’re consideriing the AD to optimize your AAS experience…I think you may be asking for trouble. Just too many variables. You’d be a mess (IMHO).
i think there seems to be a misconception (cant spell) i dont doubt that the AD will be better with AAS. i was just curious if AAS would work better on a diet that has alot more carbs.
anyways, i just started my cycle today and will remain on the AD and see what happens.
Well, I wouldn’t know that, I’m afraid.
But if I had to guess I would think the AD a superior dietary strategy -second only to carb-cycling. The only reason I say that is because so many top athletes seem to be doing so well with it.
Bottom line though…do what you’re best at and most comfortable with.
ahahah the AD is far from comfortable, infact i hate it. i will purposly not go out just so i dont pass the carb limit. i seriously think only a handful of people can do the AD successfully because it does take a hit on your social life, or at least it did for me. cant wait for this cycle to be over as i will never go on the AD again.
The AD is often referred to as the Anabolic lifestyle. Reason being is that you need to be in it for the long haul to see maximum benefit. It’s not the type of thing to jump on as and when you please.
I’ve used the AD since late last year. During a recent 3 week cutter on AAS the results were amazing. I will continue to use the AD for the forseeable future and this will include my pending 6-8week bulker.
I did the AD for over 2 years straight…while good for strenght, the muscle mass tended to be on the minimal side. Even when consuming ample amounts of meat and fat.
From my experience with it the conclusions that I got are the following:
If you have insulin problems, the AD is the best way for loosing bodyfat.
For maximizing lean muscle gains you NEED to consume a considrable amount of carbs.
The amount of carbs you will need to consume will be directly related to the amount of time you have done the AD.
Using the AD over a long period of time “resets” the body’s tolerance over insulin and carb consumption.
HIIT and AD is a NO-NO.
Another issue that I have no basis, but experience to say, is that the more muscle mass you have, the higher the amount of carbs you can tolerate AND the more times you have dieted down to ultra-low bodyfat, the easier it becomes to loose any fat gains while bulking.
All the above are for “supplemented” persons, I have no idea how the AD may or may not work for “unsupplemented” individuals.
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
If you don’t like it, and you’ll never do the AD again, and it doesn’t have any inherent benefits for bulking while on AAS, then why continue with it?[/quote]
i guess i continued doing it because i didnt wanna “give up” on it. i dont feel the need to continue with the ad. gonna go eat a shit load of carbs now, thx guys!