Steroid Newbie Thread (Help Build It Vets!)

Hey guys, didn’t wanna start a new thread for this, just watched the film ‘rise of the footsoilder’ brilliant film!

Anyway this guy was doing 6weeks on and 6weeks off of anavar.

I was wondering do you need pct for this? i presume 2 weeks serm pct would be enough, so would you just take another 4 weeks off or 6 weeks after pct?

I’m not going doing an anavar cycle, just curious!

Alright, I know Vets are tired of the same old questions but I really need help here. I am wanting to start a cycle and have no clue where to start. I am now 29 and am 6’2 and 200lbs. I am at the gym 5 days a week for abour 45 mins to an hour a day. But I am not getting the gains as I did in college. What would be a good cycle to get max bulking. Also if anyone could pm me or message me on ideas on the best brands of gear. Thanks

I’m new to the site and will be starting a new cycle with liquid Clen. I’m not sure how much to take. The tablets were 1-3 daily, depending on the week into the cycle. I have different size syringes that I can use. What is the difference between ml/mcg or are they the same? Will the dose change with the liquid as it did with the pill form? I was taking T-4, but it made me ill. Can I substitute it with something?

I’ll be honest I’m nervous! I want to make sure that I do things right. I’m obese, there’s no way to sugar coat it. I need to lose at least 60 lbs. I’ve changed my diet, I excercise, but I need a good kick start in the right direction. I’m losing inches which is great, but I want it all gone now! Please help! My husband is a Personal Trainer, but he doesn’t have time to help me!

1st thing to do is divorce him…did the liquid come with a dropper ? maybe you should research bit…
ml = millitter
mcg = micrograms

Whatever you do, DO NOT INJECT THE LIQUID CLEN. I’m not sure if you were planning to or not but I figured I’d mention it anyway. I don’t have any other helpful info, sorry.

[quote]fightu35 wrote:
1st thing to do is divorce him…did the liquid come with a dropper ? maybe you should research bit…
ml = millitter
mcg = micrograms[/quote]

Good advice, but divorce is expensive!LOL

It came with a dropper! There’s no numbers or anything on the dropper! The bottle reads 100 MCG - 60 ML Vial. I’ve taken Clen tabs, but never liquid. I didn’t have a problem with taking Clen, but the T-4 I took made me extremely sick all of the time. Is there anything that I can take to substitute the T-4?

I know that Clen is not a quick fix to being fat and wanting to lose weight. I do diet and exercise

[quote]treedoles wrote:
fightu35 wrote:
1st thing to do is divorce him…did the liquid come with a dropper ? maybe you should research bit…
ml = millitter
mcg = micrograms

Good advice, but divorce is expensive!LOL

It came with a dropper! There’s no numbers or anything on the dropper! The bottle reads 100 MCG - 60 ML Vial. I’ve taken Clen tabs, but never liquid. I didn’t have a problem with taking Clen, but the T-4 I took made me extremely sick all of the time. Is there anything that I can take to substitute the T-4?

I know that Clen is not a quick fix to being fat and wanting to lose weight. I do diet and exercise[/quote]

well, my T3 came with a dropper… 5 drops was 50 mcg’s
normal clen tabs are 20mcgs per tab…(some 40).
why T4 ? and not T3 ? and almost every dropper is the same size, how much clen you plan on taking a day ? 40-60 ? more…less…

Question: a buddy of mine is taking a steriod that is pumping him quick. He is a small framed guy but is growing so fast in his chest and shoulders that he has deep puffy stretch marks under his armpits. What could he be taking?

[quote]Genop wrote:
Question: a buddy of mine is taking a steriod that is pumping him quick. He is a small framed guy but is growing so fast in his chest and shoulders that he has deep puffy stretch marks under his armpits. What could he be taking? [/quote]

Carrotz

When dosing oral products such as the ones mentioned, i use thge dropper to put the proiduct into an ORAL syringe and get accuracy that way. i dont count drops.

I do know well respected members use the drops method but i personally dont.

JMO

Hey, gang. New here. Sorry if this isn’t where this should be posted. Can’t figure out how to start my own subject thread on this board yet.

I am 42 years old. Lifted on and off most of life ( mostly off for last decade, though), and trying to get back into shape. Got a new trainer, and have lost 14 lbs of mostly fat in three weeks, so that’s good.

A buddy of mine is a cop and ripped to shreds , so he suggested I start going to his doctor a few weeks ago for HRT. Doc prescribed me with Testosterone cypionate,0.2 cc twice a week.

When I mentioned concerns about my balls shrinking, he prescribed HCG, 1/2 cc 2x a week. Both into the “belly fat”… I still have a fair amount of that, LOL

Basically, I sat on it all for two weeks… couldnt’ decide if I wanted to inject anything or “stay natural”, even though my Test and Free test levels came out kind of low. ( Test is 436, and Free test is 94)

Finally, at Doc’s urgings, I started. The Cyp was fine. Took it twice, and then I started the HCG. HATED it! My balls really felt funny, even kind of hurt. “Blue” all the time, really quick. Always “moving around”, it seemed. Wood woke me up several times a night, too. I definitely didnt’ liek the feeling. Also, kind of “burned” in my groin “lines”. Anyone else had a similar experience?

I called the doc, and HE is on “medical leave” the rest of the month! So I cant’ ask questions. Frustrated, I stopped everything.

Just went to another HRT Doc today, to get a second opinion (spending way too much $$ on this). He wants to put me on Pregnenalone and DHEA, to do bioidentical stuff more. And the machine he put me in to test BF%??? Man, I seem fatter than ever! (my trainer does calipers).

So, I’m more confused than ever. Anybody out there had similar experiences? Any advice from people who have had HRT?

Any help would be appreciated.

Post your message in “The Over 35 Lifter” forum. Lots of expertise there. This is the link to that forum:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_senior?pageNo=1&s=forumsNavTop

There is a “Post” icon at the top of that page and when you click on it you will be able to start your own thread.

Briefly, you need an AI like Adex when using test. I don’t know what dose you were taking because you did not mention the concentration, just the volume.

TRT dosage of test is from 100-200mg/w. Adex should be at about 0.2mg EOD. For long term use of test (longer than 8 weks) hCG should be used in the amount of 250iu EOD. Maybe your dosage of hCG was too high? The wood could have been from the test too. BTW, it is kinda normal to have wood overnight when your test level is normal.

[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Post your message in “The Over 35 Lifter” forum. Lots of expertise there. This is the link to that forum:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_senior?pageNo=1&s=forumsNavTop

There is a “Post” icon at the top of that page and when you click on it you will be able to start your own thread.

Briefly, you need an AI like Adex when using test. I don’t know what dose you were taking because you did not mention the concentration, just the volume.

TRT dosage of test is from 100-200mg/w. Adex should be at about 0.2mg EOD. For long term use of test (longer than 8 weks) hCG should be used in the amount of 250iu EOD. Maybe your dosage of hCG was too high? The wood could have been from the test too. BTW, it is kinda normal to have wood overnight when your test level is normal.
[/quote]

If Ive been on TEST (100mg) a week for almost 1 yr…and no shrinkage…should I bother with HCG ?

[quote]fightu35 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Post your message in “The Over 35 Lifter” forum. Lots of expertise there. This is the link to that forum:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_senior?pageNo=1&s=forumsNavTop

There is a “Post” icon at the top of that page and when you click on it you will be able to start your own thread.

Briefly, you need an AI like Adex when using test. I don’t know what dose you were taking because you did not mention the concentration, just the volume.

TRT dosage of test is from 100-200mg/w. Adex should be at about 0.2mg EOD. For long term use of test (longer than 8 weks) hCG should be used in the amount of 250iu EOD. Maybe your dosage of hCG was too high? The wood could have been from the test too. BTW, it is kinda normal to have wood overnight when your test level is normal.

If Ive been on TEST (100mg) a week for almost 1 yr…and no shrinkage…should I bother with HCG ?[/quote]

That would be a good question for KSman, but I would think yes you should be using hCG to keep the testes healthy. I don’t remember the specifics, but I do recall reading that there are health consequences to not doing so.

well…I think most would say yes…but i see no shrinkage…and other that…woudl any sytems relate to size…

There could be health consequences apart from shrinkage. Some that come to mind (but I am not sure about) are:

  1. Damage to sperm production.
  2. Prostate issues.

ok, this is what I ment,any systems I should look for ?
Around here ya only see the scary shrinkage factor !lol thanks for the reply…

Ask KSman…

ok ive searched and searched all night through these forums for a way to contact orbit labs or md labs… cant seem to find out how to get ahold of them any help would be much appreciated… ty

[quote]fightu35 wrote:
well…I think most would say yes…but i see no shrinkage…and other that…woudl any sytems relate to size…[/quote]

Lowered fertility.

B