Stereotyping Personalities

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
(My 2 centz)…“T-shirts and Tattoos are for reading…get to KNOW me!” (I’m all out of monies now…)

Funny Story…kinda…I was at the beach…and one assuming/judgemental woman, commented that “…tattoos symbolize a lack of intellectual expression, so people who have them, use them as a display for what they themselves cannot convey…” yada yada yada…

and then she asks me what it says on my back “anyway”…and what the hell it means…LOLOLOLOL!

(avatar pic is unclear, but it says PRODIGAL…i’m sure many of you are familiar with the Biblical story)

should I assume people w/o tattoos can’t read, or better yet, don’t read the Bible? J/K

(as an aside) I bagged her later!(sorry mom) Maybe she likes dummies…LOL. I’m really not, but I play one on TV…[/quote]

Yeah I’m pretty sure as far as external appearances go, I’ve got “idiot” down to a T. Powerlifter, Tattoos, Marine…yeah. But I kind of like when people underestimate me…makes them easier to manipulate (as you proved by bagging her). [/quote]

NO DOUBT! I’m normally not the “bag her” type…but since I had already been reduced to an inked up dummy…I ran the full gambit…her mind is probably blown from stereotypical overload…LOL. I wonder how many she conjured up…before, during, and after…LOL.

  1. Tatted up=dummy
  2. 6’3"/muscular=dumb jock
  3. black=dumb jock (basketball or football) i actually play chess/billiards
  4. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
  5. No wedding ring=married player…LOL (ironic ain’t it? I’m really single)
  6. Earrings=gay
  7. Fucked my brains out=well not gay, bisexual…LOLOLOL
  8. Nice watch=thief
  9. Nice bracelet=a good thief
  10. Debit card=bad credit…LOLOLOL
  11. No wallet= no money
  12. Gave me a bogus digits=DEFINITELY MARRIED! (wasn’t a love connection…really)
  13. Won’t return my calls=Pre-Paid calling plan…LOL…(i didn’t get’m…hehe)

the list probably goes on and on…

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[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

  1. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
    [/quote]

Wait, so you’re saying…

:wink:

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

  1. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
    [/quote]

Wait, so you’re saying…

;)[/quote]

No…I didn’t say it…LOL…she assumed it…remember???

BUT…YUHP! I’m BLACK!

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface, my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/quote]

You feel your talent in life is being able to make instantaneous, inerrant judgments about the strengths and weaknesses of any individual?

I am going to have to agree with Professor X that you are probably flattering yourself with this super power. While I agree that it is certainly possible to ‘read’ people over the course of a brief encounter, particularly with regards to stressful situations and only as far as certain traits or inconsistencies are concerned, being able to accurately judge the spectrum of one’s character as far as evaluating their ‘strengths and weaknesses’ is something that would take a little more time.

The only person I’ve seen who can do this is House… and he isn’t real.

As far as your actual topic is concerned: yes, I can see the silver lining on the piles of shit I see every day just as I notice the occasional smudges on the otherwise pristine characters of people whom I also happen across.

Of course, I still classify people as douchebags based on single tidbits of information because, shit, I see a lot of people over the course of my day and I need some way to filter out the rabble. While I wouldn’t consider these pricks to be Satan incarnate, if they happen to personify any particular trait I find distasteful I happily reserve the right to just consider them a piece of shit - or, at the very least, not give a crap about them - and move along rather than dirty myself rummaging around piles of coal hunting for potential diamonds.

I think most people operate the same way. Very few people, I would think, genuinely believe that any one person is “all bad” or “infallible”. However, there will always be traits that ultimately color one’s perception of an individual, whether it is the many small ones that allow one to conclude the person is an all-around good fella or even a single horrible one that forces one to believe that the person is a scumbag.

I’m sure more than a few of the Catholic kiddie diddlers did some good work in between pressuring underaged boys into blowing them, but I certainly wouldn’t be shedding any tears if they took a bullet to the face. Likewise, I would still consider Mother Teresa a good lady if I found out she enjoyed the occasional shoplifting binge.[/quote]

Great post Anonym.

I am struggling to see the point of OP’s question. I read it thinking, doesn’t everybody do that? Are you asking is everyone judgmental or why are people so judgmental?[/quote]

I’m asking why people choose to be judgmental and what are the experiences of those who have chosen not to be. My own experience has been not quite fitting in many situations because I choose not to accept others labelling people.

For instance, I can’t think of my crappy professor as a bad person like the rest of the students because I know he’s not- he simply isn’t invested in the class and also is careless at times. He has many other good traits. However, pointing this out would not endear me to the students who want to kill him. lol.

The only place being able to see a person’s strengths and weaknesses really seems to be useful is management. Otherwise, it seems like you get farther by jumping on the judgment bandwagon.

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[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

  1. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
    [/quote]

Wait, so you’re saying…

;)[/quote]

No…I didn’t say it…LOL…she assumed it…remember???

BUT…YUHP! I’m BLACK![/quote]

LOL! Just in my experience, that seems more related to girth than length…although white guys have actually been the largest in both departments… They’ve also been the smallest…

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[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
(My 2 centz)…“T-shirts and Tattoos are for reading…get to KNOW me!” (I’m all out of monies now…)

Funny Story…kinda…I was at the beach…and one assuming/judgemental woman, commented that “…tattoos symbolize a lack of intellectual expression, so people who have them, use them as a display for what they themselves cannot convey…” yada yada yada…

and then she asks me what it says on my back “anyway”…and what the hell it means…LOLOLOLOL!

(avatar pic is unclear, but it says PRODIGAL…i’m sure many of you are familiar with the Biblical story)

should I assume people w/o tattoos can’t read, or better yet, don’t read the Bible? J/K

(as an aside) I bagged her later!(sorry mom) Maybe she likes dummies…LOL. I’m really not, but I play one on TV…[/quote]

Sounds like she just wanted an excuse to start a conversation with you. It also sounds like her tactics worked.

It’s not that uncommon for some women to make borderline disparaging remarks as an opener when trying to pick up. If you aren’t interested they don’t feel like they have lost face, as they never showed that they were into you in the first place.

Sadly, the girls who have acted like this towards me have never been what I would consider hot.

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[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
(My 2 centz)…“T-shirts and Tattoos are for reading…get to KNOW me!” (I’m all out of monies now…)

Funny Story…kinda…I was at the beach…and one assuming/judgemental woman, commented that “…tattoos symbolize a lack of intellectual expression, so people who have them, use them as a display for what they themselves cannot convey…” yada yada yada…

and then she asks me what it says on my back “anyway”…and what the hell it means…LOLOLOLOL!

(avatar pic is unclear, but it says PRODIGAL…i’m sure many of you are familiar with the Biblical story)

should I assume people w/o tattoos can’t read, or better yet, don’t read the Bible? J/K

(as an aside) I bagged her later!(sorry mom) Maybe she likes dummies…LOL. I’m really not, but I play one on TV…[/quote]

Yeah I’m pretty sure as far as external appearances go, I’ve got “idiot” down to a T. Powerlifter, Tattoos, Marine…yeah. But I kind of like when people underestimate me…makes them easier to manipulate (as you proved by bagging her). [/quote]

NO DOUBT! I’m normally not the “bag her” type…but since I had already been reduced to an inked up dummy…I ran the full gambit…her mind is probably blown from stereotypical overload…LOL. I wonder how many she conjured up…before, during, and after…LOL.

  1. Tatted up=dummy
  2. 6’3"/muscular=dumb jock
  3. black=dumb jock (basketball or football) i actually play chess/billiards
  4. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
  5. No wedding ring=married player…LOL (ironic ain’t it? I’m really single)
  6. Earrings=gay
  7. Fucked my brains out=well not gay, bisexual…LOLOLOL
  8. Nice watch=thief
  9. Nice bracelet=a good thief
  10. Debit card=bad credit…LOLOLOL
  11. No wallet= no money
  12. Gave me a bogus digits=DEFINITELY MARRIED! (wasn’t a love connection…really)
  13. Won’t return my calls=Pre-Paid calling plan…LOL…(i didn’t get’m…hehe)

the list probably goes on and on…
[/quote]

True, Denial is a long , deep river. Kind of like that book he’s not into you. I just had a certifiable crazy patient in my office. I heard the strong independent woman thing and guys are intimidated by attractive women thing. She’s pretty over weight and certified crazy by the state I mean.

Everyone thinks they’re whiz at this and most aren’t. It’s going to be directly related to your experience and intelligence. The Secret Service, CIA and other groups spend a lot of time and money teaching this stuff to their people.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

[/quote]

I have to read the rest of the thread but…really? Off of shoes or a car? Who are these women and are they aware they’re missing their brains? :slight_smile:

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[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:

  1. 6’3"/black=enormous penis
    [/quote]

Wait, so you’re saying…

;)[/quote]

No…I didn’t say it…LOL…she assumed it…remember???

BUT…YUHP! I’m BLACK![/quote]

EXACTLY! She assumed it, you were talking about things she assumed that weren’t true, checkmate!! Small dick over here guys!! waves hands around in the air

Don’t be angry <3

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Nice try. I don’t work at the moment. I just attend school. To give you an example of what I meant by a judgment call, let’s take a professor I despised so much I stopped going to his class (he would make fun of students for asking questions, dodge the questions, not come to class prepared with even a calculator (it was physics and he would waste time doing shit by hand), and generally just gave off the impression he considered the class a joke). Now, I did meet with this guy outside of class twice and would say he was charismatic, charming, trying hard to be a good father (which he was probably more concerned about than the class), took pride in being laid back and enjoying a good time, and has gotten by in life by being intelligent and fun. He was also careless and tried to joke everything off when caught in an uncomfortable spot.

Everyone else in the class said terrible things about him and I overheard people discussing how “awkward” it was to run into him outside of class. I didn’t find that was the case when I just tried smiling and waving. I did hate his class, though, regardless of the grade I received. He was just not invested in teaching that material.[/quote]

I wasnt trying I was bored. I was also just poking Deb because I know she is intelligent and hates sexist remarks. I am undecided on you still, probably because you are still a kid. I’m out.

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[quote]OnMyOwn32 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

[/quote]

I have to read the rest of the thread but…really? Off of shoes or a car? Who are these women and are they aware they’re missing their brains? :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Yes, really. Some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard has come from listening to a group of women talk about guys.

  1. Hands - apparently, from one woman I heard, you can tell a lot about a guy from his fingernails.

let me tell you something ladies, while some of us do get manicures now, the average guy either bites his nails or cuts them when they get in the way. That is about as much thought as most of us put into it 99% of the time.

  1. Feet - apparently you can tell a man’s dick size by his shoe size.

While this may have SOME degree of truth simply because someone with big proportions MAY be a little bigger, it is mostly just not true. There is no direct link between the two.

  1. Car - Does this need an explanation?

  2. Shoes - apparently some women think a man’s status in life is reflected directly by his apparel…which is bullshit. I wear what is comfortable. I am usually in tennis shoes (Nike Free 5.0’s) even at work and out of work, am often just in gym clothes.

What does that tell you about my status besides I like to lift weights?

Yeah, it may sound strange coming from a guy who heard it, but my guess is, most of you ladies hear this same shit and don’t even notice it in conversation when you do it yourselves.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]OnMyOwn32 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

[/quote]

I have to read the rest of the thread but…really? Off of shoes or a car? Who are these women and are they aware they’re missing their brains? :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Yes, really. Some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard has come from listening to a group of women talk about guys.

  1. Hands - apparently, from one woman I heard, you can tell a lot about a guy from his fingernails.

let me tell you something ladies, while some of us do get manicures now, the average guy either bites his nails or cuts them when they get in the way. That is about as much thought as most of us put into it 99% of the time.

  1. Feet - apparently you can tell a man’s dick size by his shoe size.

While this may have SOME degree of truth simply because someone with big proportions MAY be a little bigger, it is mostly just not true. There is no direct link between the two.

  1. Car - Does this need an explanation?

  2. Shoes - apparently some women think a man’s status in life is reflected directly by his apparel…which is bullshit. I wear what is comfortable. I am usually in tennis shoes (Nike Free 5.0’s) even at work and out of work, am often just in gym clothes.

What does that tell you about my status besides I like to lift weights?

Yeah, it may sound strange coming from a guy who heard it, but my guess is, most of you ladies hear this same shit and don’t even notice it in conversation when you do it yourselves.[/quote]

I have very different criteria thank god.

Jeez if someone judged me on my car or my shoes I’d be fucked.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

  1. Shoes - apparently some women think a man’s status in life is reflected directly by his apparel…which is bullshit. I wear what is comfortable. I am usually in tennis shoes (Nike Free 5.0’s) even at work and out of work, am often just in gym clothes.

[/quote]

Theres a guy at the office that my wife works with and when he’s wearing his red heels, look out! When he’s just wearing flats and regular business attire, no biggie.

You can tell a lot about him by the shoes he’s wearing. Well, that and the skirt. And he pees in the womens room.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

  1. Shoes - apparently some women think a man’s status in life is reflected directly by his apparel…which is bullshit. I wear what is comfortable. I am usually in tennis shoes (Nike Free 5.0’s) even at work and out of work, am often just in gym clothes.

[/quote]

Theres a guy at the office that my wife works with and when he’s wearing his red heels, look out! When he’s just wearing flats and regular business attire, no biggie.

You can tell a lot about him by the shoes he’s wearing. Well, that and the skirt. And he pees in the womens room.[/quote]

LOL fucking L.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Nice try. I don’t work at the moment. I just attend school. To give you an example of what I meant by a judgment call, let’s take a professor I despised so much I stopped going to his class (he would make fun of students for asking questions, dodge the questions, not come to class prepared with even a calculator (it was physics and he would waste time doing shit by hand), and generally just gave off the impression he considered the class a joke). Now, I did meet with this guy outside of class twice and would say he was charismatic, charming, trying hard to be a good father (which he was probably more concerned about than the class), took pride in being laid back and enjoying a good time, and has gotten by in life by being intelligent and fun. He was also careless and tried to joke everything off when caught in an uncomfortable spot.

Everyone else in the class said terrible things about him and I overheard people discussing how “awkward” it was to run into him outside of class. I didn’t find that was the case when I just tried smiling and waving. I did hate his class, though, regardless of the grade I received. He was just not invested in teaching that material.[/quote]

I wasnt trying I was bored. I was also just poking Deb because I know she is intelligent and hates sexist remarks. I am undecided on you still, probably because you are still a kid. I’m out. [/quote]

lol. That just wasn’t an answer you knew what to do with, huh?

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Nice try. I don’t work at the moment. I just attend school. To give you an example of what I meant by a judgment call, let’s take a professor I despised so much I stopped going to his class (he would make fun of students for asking questions, dodge the questions, not come to class prepared with even a calculator (it was physics and he would waste time doing shit by hand), and generally just gave off the impression he considered the class a joke). Now, I did meet with this guy outside of class twice and would say he was charismatic, charming, trying hard to be a good father (which he was probably more concerned about than the class), took pride in being laid back and enjoying a good time, and has gotten by in life by being intelligent and fun. He was also careless and tried to joke everything off when caught in an uncomfortable spot.

Everyone else in the class said terrible things about him and I overheard people discussing how “awkward” it was to run into him outside of class. I didn’t find that was the case when I just tried smiling and waving. I did hate his class, though, regardless of the grade I received. He was just not invested in teaching that material.[/quote]

I wasnt trying I was bored. I was also just poking Deb because I know she is intelligent and hates sexist remarks. I am undecided on you still, probably because you are still a kid. I’m out. [/quote]

lol. That just wasn’t an answer you knew what to do with, huh?

[/quote]

Nope working this week, maybe next week I will be bored again.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
If you want to know why we stereotype people and their personalities, take a look at the “What to tell daughter about boys” and “What to tell son about girls” threads. I never used to understand why men were always looked down upon by so many women in such a broad way, but after hearing so many people say that all men are pigs and so forth, including from a lot of men, I understood where this negative stigma comes from.

Can’t quite say the same about women. There seemed to be a more wide-ranging take on what to tell their sons about women, but a couple of very common assessments (that were negative) were that women are untrustworthy and that they are harder to understand than quantum physics.

I think when we grow up being told these sort of blanket statements about a demographic as diverse as MEN and WOMEN, it’s only natural that stereotypes arise even before we have a chance to really form an evaluation on our own. When you’ve been told that all men are lying scumbags, you naturally tend to look at everything negative that a man does as evidence of this and as something that is natural for him. Eventually you begin to look for men to do these things because you expect it from them and then you interpret virtually everything about men through this set of lenses.

I don’t know. I just fucking hate when I hear people slam men all the time. We’re not all a bunch of pieces of shit and I get real sick and tired of this stereotype of the dumbed-down, perpetually drunk man who has three emotions: elation over the result of a football game, anger over the result of a football game or debilitating confusion over virtually anything that comes out of a woman’s mouth.[/quote]

It seems like protection from pain would be the major reason a parent would stereotype a gender’s personality for their offspring.

I’m pretty sick of the men claiming not to understand women as well. Do you think part of the stereotyping on either side is throwing-up of the hands and declaring interaction impossible so as to absolve one’s self of responsbility for anything that goes askew?

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No, I think it has to do with women being fucking crazy and us putting up with it because we want sex.

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As for the issue Professor X and others keep bringing up regarding being judged based on car, finger nails, whatever, I’m sure that does happen quite a bit.

When I first met my boyfriend I was pretty sure he was a player and our interaction was going to be a hot little fling. His myspace at the time was crammed with pictures of him and hot, scantily clad girls, he was driving a pretty little sports car, and just came across as a “man’s man who think’s he’s pretty awesome with the ladies”. I’m apparently not the only person that noticed this, as he asked me at one point early on why people think he’s a player (some guy at work made a comment to him about it based on the same stuff!)

Within a month he’d pretty much settled my anti-relationship self. I joke that I used to give guys “the leash” and generally they’d just hang themselves with it whereas he made himself a little scarf and showed me a thing or two about how to wear it.

How many people give you a chance after their initial impression?

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Nice try. I don’t work at the moment. I just attend school. To give you an example of what I meant by a judgment call, let’s take a professor I despised so much I stopped going to his class (he would make fun of students for asking questions, dodge the questions, not come to class prepared with even a calculator (it was physics and he would waste time doing shit by hand), and generally just gave off the impression he considered the class a joke). Now, I did meet with this guy outside of class twice and would say he was charismatic, charming, trying hard to be a good father (which he was probably more concerned about than the class), took pride in being laid back and enjoying a good time, and has gotten by in life by being intelligent and fun. He was also careless and tried to joke everything off when caught in an uncomfortable spot.

Everyone else in the class said terrible things about him and I overheard people discussing how “awkward” it was to run into him outside of class. I didn’t find that was the case when I just tried smiling and waving. I did hate his class, though, regardless of the grade I received. He was just not invested in teaching that material.[/quote]

I wasnt trying I was bored. I was also just poking Deb because I know she is intelligent and hates sexist remarks. I am undecided on you still, probably because you are still a kid. I’m out. [/quote]

lol. That just wasn’t an answer you knew what to do with, huh?

[/quote]

Nope working this week, maybe next week I will be bored again. [/quote]

BTW, what is “not a kid status”? I’ve heard for men it’s supposed to be 30.