Stereotyping Personalities

[DJHT]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

X you should also know that only WOMEN can make generalities men are knuckle dragging pussy hunters that would sell there soul to just get to sniff all womens crotch. Just joking Deb dont internet flame me. My wife has made the comment about how women are judgemental so if you want to argue with her I will give you her e-mail.

[debraD]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

Then you are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Is it the same for race?

[Oleena]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think most women THINK they have this ability.

I think most women are WRONG about this.

I think most women judge men by notions they received from their mothers and father figures.

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

I have also never had a woman guess my true personality, strengths or weaknesses by meeting me one time. They almost always jump to the wrong conclusions.[/quote]

I can see that happening with you for a multitude of reasons. What I’m talking about, though, is someone’s ability to remain open minded regardless of their opinion initially and then, over time, form an acurate assessment of strengths and weaknesses.

Are you saying that no woman has changed their mind about you or recognized that initially impressions are misleading?

Also, I’ve noticed that men tend to come to completely opposite ideas about my intelligence, in a social situation where there’s no real gauge, based on how friendly and giggly I am. Sadly, the nicer and happier I act towards them, the lower they initially assume my intelligence is. That’s always kind of cracked me up.

[SkyzykS]

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

Your math does not include rape.
only one thousand internetz for you.[/quote]

[Professor_X]

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

Then you are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Is it the same for race?[/quote]

Yes.

Did you expect me to say no?

I can bet that most black guys listen to Hip Hop music at least to some degree and while not all play basketball, probably have at least some history in that arena even if it is as simple as not playing well.

Now, if you take that and start choosing all negative characteristics based on race as if skin color causes someone to do negative activities, then you would be flat out wrong.

I bet most white guys liked Seinfeld.

[debraD]

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

X you should also know that only WOMEN can make generalities men are knuckle dragging pussy hunters that would sell there soul to just get to sniff all womens crotch. Just joking Deb dont internet flame me. My wife has made the comment about how women are judgemental so if you want to argue with her I will give you her e-mail. [/quote]

lol don’t worry I won’t flame you.

I just want to point out that you guys make A LOT of judgments and stereotypes, mostly negative against women as a whole so much that I don’t think you (generic you) even realize it or question it. I suspect when you are all saying that it’s retarded to make snap judgments you actually mean it’s retarded to make snap judgments using criteria that you don’t agree with.

Everybody does it, it’s just a problem when people do it a) mindlessly (like believing they have zero racial or gender bias) or b) thinking they have a magical gut feeling guiding them.

I’m just picking on it now because I’m bored and avoiding work

[Professor_X]

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think most women THINK they have this ability.

I think most women are WRONG about this.

I think most women judge men by notions they received from their mothers and father figures.

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

I have also never had a woman guess my true personality, strengths or weaknesses by meeting me one time. They almost always jump to the wrong conclusions.[/quote]

I can see that happening with you for a multitude of reasons. What I’m talking about, though, is someone’s ability to remain open minded regardless of their opinion initially and then, over time, form an acurate assessment of strengths and weaknesses.

Are you saying that no woman has changed their mind about you or recognized that initially impressions are misleading?

Also, I’ve noticed that men tend to come to completely opposite ideas about my intelligence, in a social situation where there’s no real gauge, based on how friendly and giggly I am. Sadly, the nicer and happier I act towards them, the lower they initially assume my intelligence is. That’s always kind of cracked me up.[/quote]

I have actually learned in this lifetime to see a woman who is giggly with a light voice as being extremely intelligent…if for no other reason than they know how they come across by the time they are grown and if they are in any type of successful field, likely use that to their advantage much like I use my appearance to fly under the radar as far as intelligence.

Other than that, I have found that many women make rash assumptions initially and hold onto them for dear life. I do not see many admitting they were wrong. If they don’t like you initially, it is doubtful you will be turning that around any time soon no matter what…and yes, I do believe in that saying that a woman knows within 10 seconds or less whether she wants to sleep with you…which explains all of the bad relationships.

[Oleena]

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Its part of maturing to actually not place people in boxes and not look at the world as black or white. People are people and complex in nature. [/quote]

Oh but people LOVE doing it! For instance, if you hear about the things an extreme criminal has done, it’s more fun to think “he’s a bad person who needs to be murdered” than it is to consider that he has any strengths which might have been seriously warped throughout a fucked up childhood and subsequent teenage years.

The consideration of strength in a “bad person” is what changes an okay movie to AWESOME. For example, joker in the latest Batman, Darth Vader in the 3rd Star Wars, and Hannibal Lecter.

[Bricknyce]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I haven’t met a women yet who does NOT think she has this ability.[/quote]

Right.

And I’ve yet to meet more than a handful of women who don’t think women are more mature than men as a whole.

They consider it fact - women are more mature than men.

Many (though not all) women also brag about how “different” they are than anyone you or their friends have met; how they’re the life of the party; how they’re “always on the go”; how they can bring a smile to anyone’s face; how they bring smiles and laughter to seemingly everyone they come across; and that they’re “fiercely loyal (whatever the fuck this means)”; and how they’re you’re equal - AND THEN SOME!

The “fiercely loyal” thing always has me in hysterics and literally LOLing because it means nothing to most sane people and really only applies to militant and religious fanatics, people willing to die for a cause or belief system or country or whatever.

[debraD]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

Then you are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Is it the same for race?[/quote]

Yes.

Did you expect me to say no?

I can bet that most black guys listen to Hip Hop music at least to some degree and while not all play basketball, probably have at least some history in that arena even if it is as simple as not playing well.

Now, if you take that and start choosing all negative characteristics based on race as if skin color causes someone to do negative activities, then you would be flat out wrong.

I bet most white guys liked Seinfeld.
[/quote]

Music and television show tastes are not character judgments though. Saying black people are more emotional, less logical and make rash decisions they cling to would be an example of character judgments.

(as an aside) I just read on this forum last week that women are unable to make decisions quickly and stick with it and men are the better decision makers for this reason

[Bricknyce]

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think most women THINK they have this ability.

I think most women are WRONG about this.

I think most women judge men by notions they received from their mothers and father figures.

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

I have also never had a woman guess my true personality, strengths or weaknesses by meeting me one time. They almost always jump to the wrong conclusions.[/quote]

I can see that happening with you for a multitude of reasons. What I’m talking about, though, is someone’s ability to remain open minded regardless of their opinion initially and then, over time, form an acurate assessment of strengths and weaknesses.

Are you saying that no woman has changed their mind about you or recognized that initially impressions are misleading?

Also, I’ve noticed that men tend to come to completely opposite ideas about my intelligence, in a social situation where there’s no real gauge, based on how friendly and giggly I am. Sadly, the nicer and happier I act towards them, the lower they initially assume my intelligence is. That’s always kind of cracked me up.[/quote]

Then the men you come in contact with might be inept or stupid because most mature people don’t think someone’s stupid because they’re nice and friendly. Actually, the most successful people I know (socially, romantically, domestically, and/or monetarily are friendlier and more chipper than most resentful louts I’ve come across.

[Professor_X]

Also, as far as the “race” question, the correct term would have been CULTURE, not race. In this country, most black guys have been raised with at least some similar life experiences based on the “era” they were raised in…which allows us to make assumptions based on that culture.

Obviously, a black guy raised like a “white guys” would not act like a “stereotypical black guy” in this country.

[Oleena]

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface, my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/quote]

You feel your talent in life is being able to make instantaneous, inerrant judgments about the strengths and weaknesses of any individual?

I am going to have to agree with Professor X that you are probably flattering yourself with this super power. While I agree that it is certainly possible to ‘read’ people over the course of a brief encounter, particularly with regards to stressful situations and only as far as certain traits or inconsistencies are concerned, being able to accurately judge the spectrum of one’s character as far as evaluating their ‘strengths and weaknesses’ is something that would take a little more time.

The only person I’ve seen who can do this is House… and he isn’t real.

As far as your actual topic is concerned: yes, I can see the silver lining on the piles of shit I see every day just as I notice the occasional smudges on the otherwise pristine characters of people whom I also happen across.

Of course, I still classify people as douchebags based on single tidbits of information because, shit, I see a lot of people over the course of my day and I need some way to filter out the rabble. While I wouldn’t consider these pricks to be Satan incarnate, if they happen to personify any particular trait I find distasteful I happily reserve the right to just consider them a piece of shit - or, at the very least, not give a crap about them - and move along rather than dirty myself rummaging around piles of coal hunting for potential diamonds.

I think most people operate the same way. Very few people, I would think, genuinely believe that any one person is “all bad” or “infallible”. However, there will always be traits that ultimately color one’s perception of an individual, whether it is the many small ones that allow one to conclude the person is an all-around good fella or even a single horrible one that forces one to believe that the person is a scumbag.

I’m sure more than a few of the Catholic kiddie diddlers did some good work in between pressuring underaged boys into blowing them, but I certainly wouldn’t be shedding any tears if they took a bullet to the face. Likewise, I would still consider Mother Teresa a good lady if I found out she enjoyed the occasional shoplifting binge.[/quote]

I think I didn’t clarify what I meant by “being able to understand a person’s strengths and weaknesses” in my OP. I’m actually not great a gauging a person by first impressions and find that my original opinion depends on the situation. It usually takes me a decent amount of observation to form an accurate opinion.

Also, I’ve noticed it’s easier to truly laugh at someone once you understand them and they you. That’s when you understand the somewhat pointless reasons they do meaningless things, like forgetting their keys or slipping in conversation, exactly the way they do and it’s endearing because they “always” do that.

[Professor_X]

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

Then you are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Is it the same for race?[/quote]

Yes.

Did you expect me to say no?

I can bet that most black guys listen to Hip Hop music at least to some degree and while not all play basketball, probably have at least some history in that arena even if it is as simple as not playing well.

Now, if you take that and start choosing all negative characteristics based on race as if skin color causes someone to do negative activities, then you would be flat out wrong.

I bet most white guys liked Seinfeld.
[/quote]

Music and television show tastes are not character judgments though. Saying black people are more emotional, less logical and make rash decisions they cling to would be an example of character judgments.

(as an aside) I just read on this forum last week that women are unable to make decisions quickly and stick with it and men are the better decision makers for this reason
[/quote]

It would also be a wrong judgment based on what I wrote above.

Gender is based on GENOTYPE. Race has much more to do with PHENOTYPE and any relation is based on our limited concept of society and the culture within it…ie, it is mostly illusion and bias.

As far as women and decision making, women have hard times with problems that require a mechanical “fix” in my opinion. They take longer in stores because they really don’t know what the hell they want when they get there. Guys know before they go to a store what they want which limits the trip.

[Oleena]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think most women THINK they have this ability.

I think most women are WRONG about this.

I think most women judge men by notions they received from their mothers and father figures.

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

I have also never had a woman guess my true personality, strengths or weaknesses by meeting me one time. They almost always jump to the wrong conclusions.[/quote]

I can see that happening with you for a multitude of reasons. What I’m talking about, though, is someone’s ability to remain open minded regardless of their opinion initially and then, over time, form an acurate assessment of strengths and weaknesses.

Are you saying that no woman has changed their mind about you or recognized that initially impressions are misleading?

Also, I’ve noticed that men tend to come to completely opposite ideas about my intelligence, in a social situation where there’s no real gauge, based on how friendly and giggly I am. Sadly, the nicer and happier I act towards them, the lower they initially assume my intelligence is. That’s always kind of cracked me up.[/quote]

I have actually learned in this lifetime to see a woman who is giggly with a light voice as being extremely intelligent…if for no other reason than they know how they come across by the time they are grown and if they are in any type of successful field, likely use that to their advantage much like I use my appearance to fly under the radar as far as intelligence.

Other than that, I have found that many women make rash assumptions initially and hold onto them for dear life. I do not see many admitting they were wrong. If they don’t like you initially, it is doubtful you will be turning that around any time soon no matter what…and yes, I do believe in that saying that a woman knows within 10 seconds or less whether she wants to sleep with you…which explains all of the bad relationships.

[/quote]

lol@ your last sentence.

I agree that a lot of people make rash assumptions, which was the point of the OP. It’s certainly not just women. What’s funny is even saying that women do it more than men is making a rash assumption. I’m sure that assumption is based on your previous experiences, but if you met a woman who acted towards you a certain way, I’m guessing, based on what you’re posting, that it wouldn’t immediately occur to you that there was any hope of changing her opinion.

But you are right, overal. Most people form an opinion of others and stick to it.

I do want to take a moment to stand up for my gender by saying that if you had asked me if I would sleep with my high school sweetheart when I met him, the response would have been a resounding “no”. I’ve slept with quite a few recruits from the “friendship” zone because I feel like that’s the only way to get to know someone for sure and hate the idea of sleeping with someone who doesn’t have my back.

[OctoberGirl]

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface, my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/quote]

You feel your talent in life is being able to make instantaneous, inerrant judgments about the strengths and weaknesses of any individual?

I am going to have to agree with Professor X that you are probably flattering yourself with this super power. While I agree that it is certainly possible to ‘read’ people over the course of a brief encounter, particularly with regards to stressful situations and only as far as certain traits or inconsistencies are concerned, being able to accurately judge the spectrum of one’s character as far as evaluating their ‘strengths and weaknesses’ is something that would take a little more time.

The only person I’ve seen who can do this is House… and he isn’t real.

As far as your actual topic is concerned: yes, I can see the silver lining on the piles of shit I see every day just as I notice the occasional smudges on the otherwise pristine characters of people whom I also happen across.

Of course, I still classify people as douchebags based on single tidbits of information because, shit, I see a lot of people over the course of my day and I need some way to filter out the rabble. While I wouldn’t consider these pricks to be Satan incarnate, if they happen to personify any particular trait I find distasteful I happily reserve the right to just consider them a piece of shit - or, at the very least, not give a crap about them - and move along rather than dirty myself rummaging around piles of coal hunting for potential diamonds.

I think most people operate the same way. Very few people, I would think, genuinely believe that any one person is “all bad” or “infallible”. However, there will always be traits that ultimately color one’s perception of an individual, whether it is the many small ones that allow one to conclude the person is an all-around good fella or even a single horrible one that forces one to believe that the person is a scumbag.

I’m sure more than a few of the Catholic kiddie diddlers did some good work in between pressuring underaged boys into blowing them, but I certainly wouldn’t be shedding any tears if they took a bullet to the face. Likewise, I would still consider Mother Teresa a good lady if I found out she enjoyed the occasional shoplifting binge.[/quote]

I think I didn’t clarify what I meant by “being able to understand a person’s strengths and weaknesses” in my OP. I’m actually not great a gauging a person by first impressions and find that my original opinion depends on the situation. It usually takes me a decent amount of observation to form an accurate opinion.

Also, I’ve noticed it’s easier to truly laugh at someone once you understand them and they you. That’s when you understand the somewhat pointless reasons they do meaningless things, like forgetting their keys or slipping in conversation, exactly the way they do and it’s endearing because they “always” do that.[/quote]

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface,[u] my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/u] This makes it as hard for me to really dislike someone has it is for me to completely support every idea that crops into their head.
[/quote]

[Oleena]

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think most women THINK they have this ability.

I think most women are WRONG about this.

I think most women judge men by notions they received from their mothers and father figures.

I have had women make comments based off of what kind of shoes a man is wearing or what kind of car he drives.

I have also never had a woman guess my true personality, strengths or weaknesses by meeting me one time. They almost always jump to the wrong conclusions.[/quote]

I can see that happening with you for a multitude of reasons. What I’m talking about, though, is someone’s ability to remain open minded regardless of their opinion initially and then, over time, form an acurate assessment of strengths and weaknesses.

Are you saying that no woman has changed their mind about you or recognized that initially impressions are misleading?

Also, I’ve noticed that men tend to come to completely opposite ideas about my intelligence, in a social situation where there’s no real gauge, based on how friendly and giggly I am. Sadly, the nicer and happier I act towards them, the lower they initially assume my intelligence is. That’s always kind of cracked me up.[/quote]

Then the men you come in contact with might be inept or stupid because most mature people don’t think someone’s stupid because they’re nice and friendly. Actually, the most successful people I know (socially, romantically, domestically, and/or monetarily are friendlier and more chipper than most resentful louts I’ve come across. [/quote]

Yeah I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe they were. That was just my experience working coffee when I was 19. It did result in some tips, so I’m not complaining. I just remember a long-time friend telling me after the fact that some of the guys thought I was ditzy and not that intelligent. I’ve also overheard guys making judgment call like “she talked like this, giggled like this, and spent a lot of time on her hair. I’m pretty sure she was retarded.” (19 year old roomie actually just said that)

[Oleena]

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface, my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/quote]

You feel your talent in life is being able to make instantaneous, inerrant judgments about the strengths and weaknesses of any individual?

I am going to have to agree with Professor X that you are probably flattering yourself with this super power. While I agree that it is certainly possible to ‘read’ people over the course of a brief encounter, particularly with regards to stressful situations and only as far as certain traits or inconsistencies are concerned, being able to accurately judge the spectrum of one’s character as far as evaluating their ‘strengths and weaknesses’ is something that would take a little more time.

The only person I’ve seen who can do this is House… and he isn’t real.

As far as your actual topic is concerned: yes, I can see the silver lining on the piles of shit I see every day just as I notice the occasional smudges on the otherwise pristine characters of people whom I also happen across.

Of course, I still classify people as douchebags based on single tidbits of information because, shit, I see a lot of people over the course of my day and I need some way to filter out the rabble. While I wouldn’t consider these pricks to be Satan incarnate, if they happen to personify any particular trait I find distasteful I happily reserve the right to just consider them a piece of shit - or, at the very least, not give a crap about them - and move along rather than dirty myself rummaging around piles of coal hunting for potential diamonds.

I think most people operate the same way. Very few people, I would think, genuinely believe that any one person is “all bad” or “infallible”. However, there will always be traits that ultimately color one’s perception of an individual, whether it is the many small ones that allow one to conclude the person is an all-around good fella or even a single horrible one that forces one to believe that the person is a scumbag.

I’m sure more than a few of the Catholic kiddie diddlers did some good work in between pressuring underaged boys into blowing them, but I certainly wouldn’t be shedding any tears if they took a bullet to the face. Likewise, I would still consider Mother Teresa a good lady if I found out she enjoyed the occasional shoplifting binge.[/quote]

I think I didn’t clarify what I meant by “being able to understand a person’s strengths and weaknesses” in my OP. I’m actually not great a gauging a person by first impressions and find that my original opinion depends on the situation. It usually takes me a decent amount of observation to form an accurate opinion.

Also, I’ve noticed it’s easier to truly laugh at someone once you understand them and they you. That’s when you understand the somewhat pointless reasons they do meaningless things, like forgetting their keys or slipping in conversation, exactly the way they do and it’s endearing because they “always” do that.[/quote]

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface,[u] my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/u] This makes it as hard for me to really dislike someone has it is for me to completely support every idea that crops into their head.
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What I meant by “at once” was the first definition of the idiom:

Idiom:
at once

1. All at one time; simultaneously:

(I can see all of her personality strengths and weaknesses at the same time. Nothing excludes recognition of something else.)

[Brother_Chris]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We all pulled the male equivalant of selective hearing, we just did selective reading.[/quote]

LOlz.

I refuse to make this thread more sexist than I already have.[/quote]

I will fall on the sword X. Its fucking retarded to make a comment that you have to ability to judge someone within minutes of meeting them. I will give her a pass and I think we all did by trying to have an intelligent discussion.

But again you are right females are the most judgemental species on the planet earth. They are worse with each other, you work with females, I work with females. My whole adult life has been in the medical field working with females. I am sure in the OP she was discussing other females she works with. [/quote]

Wait, so you can say that within seconds of meeting someone and finding out they are feamle you know they are judgemental but the OP says she makes judgements within minutes of meeting someone and that’s retarded?

Not much that is intelligent about that.[/quote]

hahahahahahaha like I said before people are more complex. However the OP said she was able to know within minutes ALL there good and bad points. I only am able to make one assessment. So yes that is intelligent. [/quote]

I do believe we can all agree that there are GENERALITIES that most women portray and men.

Most guys do not put much EMOTIONAL attachment on sex itself. I don’t think I need to meet most men on the planet to come to that conclusion.[/quote]

Then you are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Is it the same for race?[/quote]

Yes.

Did you expect me to say no?

I can bet that most black guys listen to Hip Hop music at least to some degree and while not all play basketball, probably have at least some history in that arena even if it is as simple as not playing well.

Now, if you take that and start choosing all negative characteristics based on race as if skin color causes someone to do negative activities, then you would be flat out wrong.

I bet most white guys liked Seinfeld.
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Everyday, more and more evidence I’m not white.

[OctoberGirl]

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface, my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/quote]

You feel your talent in life is being able to make instantaneous, inerrant judgments about the strengths and weaknesses of any individual?

I am going to have to agree with Professor X that you are probably flattering yourself with this super power. While I agree that it is certainly possible to ‘read’ people over the course of a brief encounter, particularly with regards to stressful situations and only as far as certain traits or inconsistencies are concerned, being able to accurately judge the spectrum of one’s character as far as evaluating their ‘strengths and weaknesses’ is something that would take a little more time.

The only person I’ve seen who can do this is House… and he isn’t real.

As far as your actual topic is concerned: yes, I can see the silver lining on the piles of shit I see every day just as I notice the occasional smudges on the otherwise pristine characters of people whom I also happen across.

Of course, I still classify people as douchebags based on single tidbits of information because, shit, I see a lot of people over the course of my day and I need some way to filter out the rabble. While I wouldn’t consider these pricks to be Satan incarnate, if they happen to personify any particular trait I find distasteful I happily reserve the right to just consider them a piece of shit - or, at the very least, not give a crap about them - and move along rather than dirty myself rummaging around piles of coal hunting for potential diamonds.

I think most people operate the same way. Very few people, I would think, genuinely believe that any one person is “all bad” or “infallible”. However, there will always be traits that ultimately color one’s perception of an individual, whether it is the many small ones that allow one to conclude the person is an all-around good fella or even a single horrible one that forces one to believe that the person is a scumbag.

I’m sure more than a few of the Catholic kiddie diddlers did some good work in between pressuring underaged boys into blowing them, but I certainly wouldn’t be shedding any tears if they took a bullet to the face. Likewise, I would still consider Mother Teresa a good lady if I found out she enjoyed the occasional shoplifting binge.[/quote]

I think I didn’t clarify what I meant by “being able to understand a person’s strengths and weaknesses” in my OP. I’m actually not great a gauging a person by first impressions and find that my original opinion depends on the situation. It usually takes me a decent amount of observation to form an accurate opinion.

Also, I’ve noticed it’s easier to truly laugh at someone once you understand them and they you. That’s when you understand the somewhat pointless reasons they do meaningless things, like forgetting their keys or slipping in conversation, exactly the way they do and it’s endearing because they “always” do that.[/quote]

[quote]Oleena wrote:
To preface,[u] my talent in life has always been understanding and being able to see people’s strengths and weaknesses completely and at once.[/u] This makes it as hard for me to really dislike someone has it is for me to completely support every idea that crops into their head.
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What I meant by “at once” was the first definition of the idiom:

Idiom:
at once

1. All at one time; simultaneously:

(I can see all of her personality strengths and weaknesses at the same time. Nothing excludes recognition of something else.)[/quote]

So you were just being redundant? Or just backpedaling now?