[quote]mertdawg wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
Then let it be me
Bullshit!
Not that it matters for this guy, but I will go get some actual data from the football players at my highschool-and also check their form. I think they are back to doing full squats this year, but I’ve only seen them doing some strange form of floor presses.
This is a fact. When my younger brother was in 8th grade, and 14 years old and never having lifted I took him in to the college weight room and showed him how to deadlift and he deadlifted 300 immediately and pretty easily. He was about 5-10 220 at the time and overweight. Despite lifting hard through highschool he never got a completely clean form of 485 while in highschool, which he tried several times.
Also, a year ago June, I caught a workout with some of the football players from the highschool where I teach and they were DLing sets of 5 and adding 10 pounds per set to see who would be the last one standing. There were 4-5 guys there and none was bigger than 200-205 and they all got up to 345 x 5 and the last guy got to 385 or 395 x 5 and these were not the particularly strongest guys on the team, but they were the tough ones.
I also saw a little over a year ago in the HS weightroom a 280 pound lineman first work up to a 345 bench with very strict form, NO back arch and elbows almost straight out to the sides, and then squat first 495 (about an inch high) and then missed 550 coming up. He lacked a little hip flexibility but when he did 495, I kept telling him to get about an inch deeper, and he sat there for 8-10 seconds trying to get there and then just popped back up.
I saw a 150 pound d back walk out with 585 and “box” squat it although it was about a 19 inch box and he was 5 foot 5, but he didn’t bounce it, and it was impressive for me to see a guy that small take 2 steps back with 585. I just wish these coaches would get consistent with their training philosophy. [/quote]
My bullshit was directed at the–I thought–ficticious numbers the dude posted. We’ve all seen people lift more than they look like or abnormally high for their bodyweight.
And I agree the deadlift especially lines up this way with inexperienced lifters. Body makeup-ie.-arm length, torso length, height all are factors in newbie deads.