Bro chill out, try some METH
On a serious notice, I know it can be frustrating to feel shit and not have a definitive answer, however arguing with random forum members isn’t the way to go about solving things, perhaps an in depth review of you’re labs, lifestyle etc could come down to the root cause. Many a times when people think things are hormonal related the issue is neurological, neurotransmission is waaayyy too often overlooked my man.
Look no doc is going to give you TRT based on your numbers. I took the time to look at your bloods.
So you better start looking for UGL’s because that is the only way you are getting T injections. Maybe your friend debossa will get you some T they don’t seem to care who they hurt.
It is possible (though unlikely, very unlikely) that the individual has partial AIS or something along those lines in which case even with high numbers he would require TRT. People with PAIS sometimes need a TT of 3-4000 just to acquire normal physiology
I don’t know. Maybe. I have followed his posts most of them have been plastered in the middle of others conversations but still all have tried to help him. He is dead set of TRT no matter what anyone suggests. I don’t care he can do what he wants. I have seen so many in his age group go down this path. Usually 6 months to a year they are sick if sticking them selves with needles and they give up. Blaming everyone but themselves on why TRT did not work.
Man, Im getting injection UGL anyway because in my country the esters they sell are no option.
Otherwise I could make a doctor to write me t prescription tomorrow
I have a friend endo, he is not very happy for me to take test but he will write me prescription. Here no medical board will sue a doctor, they are all mafia sticking to each other
Best of luck to you vonko I hope it all works out. Don’t forget what you have read in the forum. In time you will understand the advice you have been given.
Well man Ive been given really all kinds of advice here.
I know for example at least one guy here hat numbers very similar to mine and is very happy to have started TRT
Some updates.
I switched gyms… got tired of all the whining from the staff at Planet Fitness. Geez, I barely grunt when doing my 3rd superset… but banging the top of a smith cage? Really, I’m 6’2"!!! Always gonna bang just a little. Anyhow, I moved to the “Edge”. Much more Athlete oriented gym.
As part of the process, (and for the same damn price) I got a session with a PRO trainer, got a meal plan for each week, and did an InBody analysis.
My lean body mass is 210.3 pounds. This includes my bones as of 8/22. I am 83 pounds of fat as of that date.
I am now down to 322 (as of this AM) pounds and was 330 at the time of that test. My wife swears I’m getting bigger muscles and losing fat randomly without rhyme or reason in strange places of my body.
I believe my body is recompositioning?? I think this is the process they describe.
I’m eating about 2600 cals a day and hit the gym almost daily. Cardio is now exclusively 30 min 3x per week. The rest of the time I hit major muscle groups to failure (or as close as I can tolerate).
My next bloods will be in the next week or so, and my next InBody will be on 9/22.
My sugars have come back up a bit despite the 2000 mg of metformin, but whatever, I give up on that. I’m floating around 100-130 depending on the day.
And no, I’m not on keto, I do a balanced diet of 30% carbs 50% protein and 20% fat.
Just my 2 cents. I noticed I’m sleeping a lot more lately, and it’s good sleep. But I don’t seem to have an issue anymore getting up very early if I have to, and/or going without coffee. No more headaches.
I’ll update ya’ll after I get some more data. Still feeling good. My Wife is demanding to do female HRT… she has had enough of the “abuse.” LOL… She’s 52 soon to be going on 21.
I’ve read everyone’s comments and I really appreciate them. I’ve been real busy with work lately and have not had the time to spend doing an update.
As a note, 9/16/2019 will be 2 months (8 weeks) to the day on TRT.
MS
#'s are in for Estradiol.
Estradiol was 36 on 100 mg M, 100 mg F, with 1.5mg of Anastrazole.
As such, the docs want to push my AI to 2 mg / week and try to suppress that armoatization a bit more.
Side note, weight loss continues, I’ve gained about 3-4 pounds lean body mass since my last scan.
Fat is dropping considerably.
MS
@mistershadow
I’m on the same dosage with an E2 of almost 80, no AI and feel great. Not against taking an AI but make sure you need it first. Sounds like you don’t.
I don’t think you need it either. Mine is 73.
Glad you do… however, for me, I can’t get an erection at 40+. Shuts me down 100%.
Bring me down into the 30’s and man I’m 17 yo again.
Also bloat like crazy around the ankles 40+.
Some people are just more sensitive than others. (Snowflake joke in there somewhere)
Doc wants to see if i feel any better or worse… kinda like the eye doctor… better or worse 1 or 2?
MS
Do you have low SHBG? (20’s or less). Most of his that have issues with estrogen usually have low SHBG. Pretty much everyone saying that have estrogen issues posts labs with low SHBG. (not counting the ones that blame everything on estrogen because they don’t know any better)
My shbg is really high, for whatever that is worth.
@ncsugrad2002
I thought SHBG was full of shit for a while until I started noticing that folks pushing AI’s a majority have low SHBG on the labs they post. Those who have 40’s and up usually don’t care about estrogen at all. It’s like it doesn’t even matter. The low SHBG guys keep their doses closer to 100mg and can’t imagine anyone using more. The guys around 40 shbg and above can use higher doses with success. Some need it. Obviously this is all speculation based on seeing what people post so maybe I’m wrong.
Interesting observation. I’ll try to look out for that and see if I notice the same with other peoples labs. It’s highly unlikely my SHBG will be low enough any time soon for it to make any difference to me. I’m down to 90 though… from 150, haha.
I’m guessing, but I believe the E2 test is total E2 and not what is actually free. So it would make sense that those with high SHBG would have lower free E2 floating around to act in the tissues just as they have less free T with the SHBG binding it. Like I said I am just guessing though.
SHBG is 14.
Mistershadow
@mistershadow
The theory strengthens
When my levels get higher up (E2) I lose erection quality for sure.
My shbg is generally around 19-26 or so.
@dbossa would say to just increase test amount. But this seems to aggrevate it more. IDK.