Start of Experiment: Estradiol Valerate

Pharma TRT
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I think in some cases like mine it’s not a direct correlation to libido/elections. It’s more to do with daily anxiety, blood pressure, quality of sleep, etc etc etc

Higher doses I am more angry and on edge, tend to sleep worse, blood pressure is higher. It sets off a whole chain reaction for crappier more fatigued days, lots of sleepless nights, brain feels fried, etc

On lower doses just feeling better on average helps me out, but yeah it sucks I lose out on god mode status other dudes get having their TT at 1k on trough.

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Its 120/80, perfect, doesnt matter what T dosage, 100mg or 1.2g

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Damn lucky dude.

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Sorry, made you give a full answer, I was just playing on the typo!

Glad the lower dose works well, less has to be better when it comes to pharmaceuticals!

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Interested in the “no scalp itch”

Ive had crazy itchy scalp recently. Is that a sign of low e2?

No hair loss- just itchy scalp

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No idea but when i started with gear 5 years ago my scalp started itching. Never lost any hair, just itch.

Now it stopped, kinda interesting.

Cant stress the joints enough, they feel like im on 600 deca now, very good.

Usually they hurt like mad these days without deca cause of too much dorian yates style lifting lol

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Ok banged my gf 2 times yesterday and 3 times today.

This is unheard of for me, I havent done that in like 5 years of injecting as I just have felt very low urge to do it.

Now I have the urge, STRONG URGE, erotic urge.

But I still use viagra, EQ is still suboptimal, but with viagra Im SUPER hard now, viagra works super good again. It didnt before.

I hope EQ gets good too, without cialis or viagra.

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HOLY FUCK

TODAY, 14 DAYS INTO MY EXPERIMENT;

I MANAGED TO GET A FULL ROCK HARD ON BONER WITHOUT CIALIS OR VIAGRA FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN 5 YEARS

AND IT STAYED SUPER FULL AND HAAARD AND STRONG DURING THE WHOLE SESSION

AND I WAS HORNY AF

IT TURNS OUT MY PROBLEM WAS TOO LOW ESTROGEN IN RELATION TO ANDROGENS ALL THE TIME!!!

NOW I HAVE:

Quicker brain
WAY more muscle pump/look bigger and more muscular
WAY higher libido, NORMAL libido, SEXUAL LUST AND EROTIC THOUGHTS ALL DAY LONG

AND NOW
FOR THE FIRST TIME
VERY GOOD ERECTION QUALITY

TWO WEEKS!

Ima keep u updated, I hope to god it stays this way but so far its VERY GOOD

2mg ESTRADIOL A DAY

2MG BITCHES

2MG!

WEHOOOO

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I’ve read (most of) this thread and am wondering what is your long term plan? Are you planning on doing both TRT and ERT (estrogen replacement therapy) for life? Did you consult with a professional about possible long term consequences?

Will you be getting blood work anytime soon? I’m interested in your hormone levels.

Have you ever tried raising your estrogen levels by way of aromatizing AAS like dianabol? What were the effects?

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Be interesting to see the bloods on this at this snapshot.

Whats half life of it out of interest?

I see E2 likes caps lock :rofl:

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Yup, agreed.

Don’t you take large levels of a Test well as other drugs IIRC? Sorry I just saw you’re currently on 350mg a week now. Ever tried running a normal mid range TRT dose for an extended period of time? As in as least 3-6 months? Don’t get excited, not a dig, just sometimes hormone stabilization takes time followed by libido.

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Ive tried everything under the sun starting 2017. Eod, ed, 80mg to 1.2g test a week. All of it. 250, 350, 500,.600, 1g, blablabla.

Ive waited weeks and weeks, ive done cycles for 3 months aswell as 6.

Everything.

Never worked. Introduce T to the system and sexual function is gone.

Im low shbg, btw.

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Dbol increased it, thats when i started to suspect things (estrogen being actually too low on test).

Also never got sides from dbol like extreme bloat etc.

Plan is to check hormone levels after a while. Prob be on estrogen forever, ive heard many practisioners give it to their patients now when needed, including highpull if i read correctly.

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Dunno man i heard the half life is short, like a couple of hours, not too sure.

Doing it once a day seems to work fine.

Also, as i stated, the first week i got a very weird feeling of nostalgia from it, but that is gone now.

Muscles are so full, i suspect i might have been estrogen deficent during all years of test use (in relation to androgens ofcourse, total e2 has been high some times for sure, but maybe not enough for the dht and test.

Dhts make me feel horrible, btw. Almost cry-like and mentally weak AF, also my naturally deep voice gets way less deep on DHTs, no idea how that works.

Only dht that is so so is primo.

Mast and var kills my energy totally.

Mast destroys any sexual function what so ever.

Shbg always between 13 and 20.

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Rob I am not trying to call you out or anything but I do remember an old post of yours under your old moniker where you stated Dbol didn’t work for you, it was years back I think.

Not sure if it was crazy stack you did along with DHT derivatives hence the different outcome.

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Prostate would be my biggest worry with ehat youre doing.

Raised e2 causes prostate enlargement.

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I would have much larger concerns. Just Google the side effects. He doesn’t appear to be having them so that’s good news. I just think he’s a 1/1000 scenario and also taking too much Test hence other drugs needed for balance.

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Yeah was more talking sides of long term raised e2. I don’t know anything about the sides of supplemental estrogen.

Having just googled it, a lot of it overlaps with some of the contraceptive pills of years back. Im guessing there’s other stuff ive not seen.

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Oh yea well my roid history is all over the place.

Essentially, first time i did dbol was after a few weeks starting a test primo cycle. That time, dbol did little to nothing.

That very primo test cycle, btw, i got rape like libido for 3 days after introducing primo, which went away very quickly. That is, sexual thoughts non stop thruout all day which made me unable to focus on anything else.

But again, this went away quickly, completely destroying any libido what so ever.

So how does this go along with high e2 libido theory? No idea, but it seems like there are different levels of ratio that is optimal for libido, regarding dht, t, e2, free e2, free t, free dht bla bla. And moving out from those spots limits libido.

Maybe the “primo dht” in the very introduction of the hormone was so strong it spiked libido despite of too low e2, but eventually as it crashed my already low shbg even lower, the free andro:estro ratio just became too much for any sexual function.

Next time i tried dbol was with test only.

In the beginning i noticed increased libido, again, albeit not even nearly as strong.

It decreased again shortly after, however, it was still somewhat higher than test only, but FAR from optimal/how it is right now.

Also remember, dbol might be estrogenic, but it is also still very androgenic, which again, might make for too much androgens relative to estrogens.

Anyway, who the heck knows.

One thing is for sure, my libido is still VERY strong and cock is exactly as when i was 13.

Introducing e2 pills has fixed my libido problems completely.

Im still just in the beginning, but im up to what, 3 weeks now and its very concistent every day.

Also, all my previous joint pain is gone, zero.

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This is the exact feeling I get when taking preg.

Clearer thoughts. More articulate in speaking. Faster brain it seems. LIke more awake.