Just a quick one…
I have bulging L5/S1. I had a nerve root sheath block spinal injection which helped a lot.
I spent 1 year off training and since my slow return it has been great
Have been back training very hard now for some time. Currently running Sus 250 & my back feels so good now. Not sure if the Sus is also helping…? The only time I get pain now is when I sit around for too long.
I also had neuro surgery on my neck when I ruptured C5/6. This has also been a great result.
My question…after reading a fair bit about Winny & Stana causing joint pain etc…
Would this be bad also for spine & discs?
I have ever used it, mates have & love it…but I am thinking it might not be worth it for me
As someone in the same boat as you, I wouldn’t risk it. Winny really dries you out and the last thing you want dried out is a problem disk. Maybe just switch it to var?
Side note, you doing any prehab work for that disk?
If I may ask, what have the two of you done for your lumbar disc bulge? I have been struggling with one for 6 months now and after many trips to the doctor, doing what I can on the foam roller, and taking it easy in the gym I am at the end of the rope. It is not a bit better than it was in June and I need to shake things up a bit.
For my ruptured disc my neck I had to have neuro surgery. It was called a posterier cervical faronotomy. The surgery had to be done as the nerve compression shut down my pulling muscle in my left arm and was shrinking. The surgery was a great success!!
For my lumbar…I had a nerve root sheath block. A ct guided injection into the spinal cord. This took a while to kick in but has also been a great success but I have to be honest it has really improved since I have been back in the gym lifting and also since back on the gear it has improved even more
Very happy how I am at the moment to be honest…not being in pain etc. So wont risk it.
NEVER want to go back to that pain!!! Although the Oxycontin was good lol -.-
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions…I’ll check both of them out[/quote]
I had a huge 8mm-10mm herniated disc L4/L5. I did 20+ sessions of spinal decompression which worked wonders for me. Its expensive as hell and not covered by insurance. Now I daily use an inversion table AM & PM. I have used all the McKenzie techniques and I will tell u the McKenzie extension helped a lot
I have a protocol now that looks like this;
I use the foundation method 22min routine(on youtube) about three times a week. The 22 min one is gone now, but this shows how it works…
Then Mckenzie extensions everyday…
Then I do a warm up something like this…prior to all lifting
Multifidus Strengthening is the #1 thing that helped me; Take what the girl is doing and hold it in a plank, once you get 3-4 minutes of the plank back extension hold your pain will greatly decrease.
Also I do the above on GHRs and I WISH I HAD ACCESS TO A REVERSE HYPER!!!
I like this exercise also, and he uses the same spinal decompression machine I did.
Bad thing is my days of deadlifting are over and I can tell from you Av that will not sit well with you, and may very well not be your case at all. Every herniation is different, and the surgery is just to risky when Im still training, doing heavy squats and front squats and living pain free.
Also look up Mckenzie rolls and start thinking about having the correct arch in your lower back at all times.
To the TS, take deca but beware the side effects. Whatever you do avoid WIn!
Wow Viking that is all very informative. I’ve bookmarked them all and will pour through them when I’m trying to put together my rehab protocol. Thanks a bunch.
Sorry for the hijack OP. With PM’s not working here, it has gotten to be pretty ridiculous the level of sidebar conversations guys end up having. At least we’re halfway related to the original topic, right? Right?
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Wow Viking that is all very informative. I’ve bookmarked them all and will pour through them when I’m trying to put together my rehab protocol. Thanks a bunch.
Sorry for the hijack OP. With PM’s not working here, it has gotten to be pretty ridiculous the level of sidebar conversations guys end up having. At least we’re halfway related to the original topic, right? Right?[/quote]
Are you having surgery? or just rehab from injury? Had an MRI yet?
Definitely a highjack, but sometimes the answer is more detailed than no don’t take Winn, but hey take Deca instead and try these things.
No plans for surgery. I will fight that tooth and nail if I can, because i’ve heard that not only does it often not work, it can actually lay you up to the point you can’t lift again. it doens’t hurt me in my everyday life, just when I’m lifting, so I figure surgery is overkill.
No MRI but that is next on the agenda if I can’t get it straightened out on my own.
Hahaha nah thats fine guys!!
My question has been answered and this is all interesting and related anyway
Yeah surgery is a last resort. I had to have surgery on my neck as my disc ruptured. All the shit from inside the disc came out and was pressing on my nerves.
I had major muscle shut down/shrinkage, weakness, numbness/tingles and extreme pain. Most of the day would feel like someone was smashing my thumb with a hammer!!
You def need a MRI as its the only way to see clearly whats going on.
If its not hurting your everyday life then its nothing to really worry about yet…BUT def get it checked out as if not sorted out it could lead to a shit fight!!! Trust me lol
[quote]nafnlaus wrote:
i have the same problem, a bulging disc but its not healing properly. From what ive read, you’re going to want to raise your IGF-1 lvl in order to benefit the disc, most researches ive read use hGH, PRP or other means to increase the IGF-1. This is used in legitimate therapies for disc injuries, but ive read some threads about people using deca with good results but you primarily need hyperplasia not hypertrophy since the disc has few to none repair cells, so focus on the IGF.
A friend of mine mentioned Anavar to improve my condition, thats not a bad idea considering that it is likely the runner to hGH in making igf-1.[/quote]
Deca COULD lubricate the disc, and also mask the pain. Raising the IGF is worth a try but once the nucleus of the disc pushes through the fibrosus outer layer, I really don’t know what hgh could do without somehow making the nucleus recede through some type of physical therapy. It could definitely benefit the healing process, if the PT is working. I think a combination of all is worth a try, deca, hgh, PRP, and a regimented PT with some type of decompression.
That being said I am very interested in not only PRP injections, but they also apply stem cells taken from your own body to the injured area which cost some major cash.
