[quote]CharlesStaley wrote:
Hey BFG, welcome to the coaching group by the way! Look forward to meeting you in October[/quote]
Oh yeah, and if you think I am a pain in the ass here, just you wait and see! ;]
This is kind of like the 40 days Program in Dan John’s Get Up Newsletter.
With that you pick two-four exercises and just do them every day. Couple sets of a couple of reps, and then when it gets light you bump up the weight. 5 days a week for 8 weeks.
It sounded really interesting, and it seemed to work well for him.
[quote] CharlesStaley wrote:
This will be an oblique answer but bear with me:
I’d create two workouts, which are essentially 2 variants of the same thing. The workouts look like this:
Power Clean or Power Snatch
Pull-Ups or Chinup
Bench press Or Military Press
Deadlift or Squat
The use the same loading parameters and the same weight…for a while.
In other words, develop a base, a basis of comparision. If you choose 10x3 with 185 on cleans, do that maybe 4-6 times, until you KNOW what that feels like. One day, you’ll hit your fist set and think "Hmm, wow, that’s a JOKE today. And that’s when it’s tme to add weight and/or make a change.
The point is, you need consistency. You need 3-4 “staple” lifts that you ALWAYS do. Then you need an assortment of auxilliary lifts that you’ll rotate based on current weak links.
I’m sure my answer will generate more questions, so get back to me and let’s bat this around…
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How do you feel about training mulitple strength quanities during a single session such as strength-speed with strength or/and endurance and/or hypertrophy. Do some work better training together then others. Also if you heavy squated on monday could you do explosive squats on wendnesday?
Hey coach, I thought I’d deal you a wild card: what is exactly muscular failure (or are there diferent types?concentric, eccentric) and what do you think of it, useful or not, and when? I’m relying on the great minds here, 'cause I had an argument with a buddy of mine, and I want to get back at him:)
It’s a similar concept, absolutely. The problem with too much variation is you never get anywhere. It’s like learning french in 1st grade, spanish in 2nd, italian in 3rd, etc.
[quote]croak wrote:
This is kind of like the 40 days Program in Dan John’s Get Up Newsletter.
With that you pick two-four exercises and just do them every day. Couple sets of a couple of reps, and then when it gets light you bump up the weight. 5 days a week for 8 weeks.
It sounded really interesting, and it seemed to work well for him.
CharlesStaley wrote:
This will be an oblique answer but bear with me:
I’d create two workouts, which are essentially 2 variants of the same thing. The workouts look like this:
Power Clean or Power Snatch
Pull-Ups or Chinup
Bench press Or Military Press
Deadlift or Squat
The use the same loading parameters and the same weight…for a while.
In other words, develop a base, a basis of comparision. If you choose 10x3 with 185 on cleans, do that maybe 4-6 times, until you KNOW what that feels like. One day, you’ll hit your fist set and think "Hmm, wow, that’s a JOKE today. And that’s when it’s tme to add weight and/or make a change.
The point is, you need consistency. You need 3-4 “staple” lifts that you ALWAYS do. Then you need an assortment of auxilliary lifts that you’ll rotate based on current weak links.
I’m sure my answer will generate more questions, so get back to me and let’s bat this around…
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[quote]brotzfrog10 wrote:
How do you feel about training mulitple strength quanities during a single session such as strength-speed with strength or/and endurance and/or hypertrophy.
I prefer this approach lately. It has a lot of value in terms of practicality, not to mention specificity to athletic scenarios.
Do some work better training together then others. Also if you heavy squated on monday could you do explosive squats on wendnesday?[/quote]
It seems that more closely-related qualities can be more successfully mixed in the same session than less related qualities. max strength and speed-strength together works well; max strength and aerobic endurance, not so well.
Well, you’ll fail concentrtically faster than eccentrically for starters. BUT…
Focus on the performance itself, NOT the after-effects of the performance. Performance quality should always remain high, and used as a way to monitor training itself. If performance drops off significantly, time to move on…
So, in short, I don’t even look at failure at all, as a training target anyway
[quote]Zen warrior wrote:
Hey coach, I thought I’d deal you a wild card: what is exactly muscular failure (or are there diferent types?concentric, eccentric) and what do you think of it, useful or not, and when? I’m relying on the great minds here, 'cause I had an argument with a buddy of mine, and I want to get back at him:)[/quote]
How often do you think one should shift set/rep ranges on such a layout?
Every 4-6 weeks or just switch ranges when you stop making progress?
With the latter it would become very self-governing like edt - which by the way I used for the first time in workouts this week and I am hooked.
Oh crap, I forgot I had a client benching to failure downstairs, and I’ve been hearing this odd squealing sound for the past 20 minutes, so gotta run! Let’s continue the discussion next week!
[quote]CharlesStaley wrote:
So what kinda cool discussions can we cook up tonight folks?[/quote]
Here’s what I’m doing myself, and it’s working like gangbusters. Pick a weight and a set/rep pattern. For example, let’s say I’m power cleaning 205 for 10x3. So I do my 10x3 and log it into my journal. I make a note about how it felt, how hard it was, etc. Then, 3-4 days later, I’ll do it again. And again, and again. The value is, you REALLY know what that’s supposed to feel like. And one day, you’ll hit that weight and it’ll be a toy, it’ll be different. And when that happens, it’s time to make a change. For me, I might change to 215 for 8x2 for example, And then I’ll do that for maybe 4-8 workouts in a row. Until one day I feel it’s again time to change.
Now you can play with this a little, some days i’ll break the pattern completely. BUT, you need familiar landscapes for yourself, so that you’ll know when your body is changing
[quote]croak wrote:
How often do you think one should shift set/rep ranges on such a layout?
Every 4-6 weeks or just switch ranges when you stop making progress?
With the latter it would become very self-governing like edt - which by the way I used for the first time in workouts this week and I am hooked.[/quote]
[quote]CharlesStaley wrote:
It’s like learning french in 1st grade, spanish in 2nd, italian in 3rd, [/quote]
That quote is so yesterday. (Literally, do you remember using it yesterday?)
I feel as if I have to always stay close to the core lower lifts (squats and deads and even variations), or I lose it. If I take just 2 or 3 weeks off, I don’t feel right when I come back. So it seems like I got a lot of lifts going on, but it’s 10. The same 10. Every week. I’ll see how I progress and report results.
BFG
[quote]CharlesStaley wrote:
Shop around, and consider similar degrees, such as kinesiology. Depends on your goals. If you want to make $$$, learn about business/marketing!
jonnyjon wrote:
Any worldly advice for someone going back to school to get a degree in exercise physiology?
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I decided on ex. phys. since it seems to cover a much broader set of topics with kinesiology being just one of them. It also seemed to have the largest selection of career opportunities. I’d very much like to start up my own business working with fighters (boxing, mma, etc) but, starting a business may take some time. Of course I’m sure most of that time will be spent modifying the way I think (I’ve read “Think and Grow Rich” but I’m still working on the thinking portion).
One last thing, I read that you failed P.E. all the way through school! If that really is the case then you give people like me allot of hope. Thanks for your time.
That’s what I reckon from your article and new DVD (which is awesome by the way, I never regretted the money I spend for it) so I should have made myself more specific: in regard to max hypertrophy, is going to failure important or not, and how often. That question came up from Charles Poliquin “Training with Maximal Weight” article http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459298 where he said that everything worked, for three weeks or so. I was wondering if the same was true for hypertrophy, as failure is more implicated in this area, at least in my understanding.
I know you and Chad Waterbury do not advocate it, but then when I train with a given RM poundage and do the same number, let’s say 10 rep @ 10 RM, is it failure (concentric) or not? And should I do every set that way? I know you’re less and less involved with that set-rep scheme, but what is there place in a training?
Ok, no more question mark for this post, I think it’s enough for one. Oh what the heck, one last for the road: do you have another DVD coming soon, perhaps going more in depth on the concept and possible variation of EDT? Loved the first, and it really help to see a training performed, but I couldn’t get my hand on one of your book, so I’m looking forward to the next best thing:)
[quote]CharlesStaley wrote:
Oh crap, I forgot I had a client benching to failure downstairs, and I’ve been hearing this odd squealing sound for the past 20 minutes, so gotta run! Let’s continue the discussion next week!
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LOL, muscular failure really is the red-headed stepchild of the iron game these days, isn’t it? 
Maybe that’s why I’m so curious about it, there so much info laying around, you don’t know what’s good anymore. Oh well, I just hope your client won’t turn HIT on you:)