Squatting Help Needed

[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:

[quote]sexyxe wrote:
Im no expert, but you seem to have a really tight back the whole way through, good hip angle and seems fine to me in that regard.

I do however echo bignate’s opinion, in capitals, of you’re only doing 15 reps a week and that could explain quite a lot.

I need to get to one of these gyms in the States. Pretty much every video I’ve seen of deads or squats there isn’t anyone else in the gym! How good is that! [/quote]

I’m actually there early in those vids, I haven’t started my new job yet, it fills up more later…It’s also in an immense warehouse so there’s a ton of space. Love working out there.

With regards to reps: I only deadlift about 9-12 reps per week, and incline bench 15 reps total per week, and I progress on those. Is there something different with squatting? [/quote]

YOU DUMB FUCK. Yes a squat is different froma deadlift and from abench, and your squat will be different from everyone else squat. So while you may gain easy on the dl and bench, would it be just FUCKING CRAZY if you didnt gain that easily on another lift?

IF ALL YOUR FUCKING LIFTS took 15 reps a week to improve, then BRAVO you can cut most of your training time. O wait, most people need to do some fucking work to increase their lifts, hell a twenty rep squat workout has more reps than u after one set.

Honestly i dont even see how u are asking this question, the more reps u squat NO MATTER WHAT WEIGHT will help you get better at the movement, just because u only need 9-12 reps of dl’s a week doesnt mean more wouldnt benefit ur dl does it? START FUCKING SQUATING U SNUSS.

These posts are fuckign stupid, you ask a question then someone tells you o hey this might be a problem and you say, o but i didnt have to do that for this… or i dont need to because i do this… INSTEAD OF TAKING THE GOD DAMN ADVICE.

If you dont want the advice DONT FUCKING POST.

if you want the advice FUCKING LISTEN YOU CUNT.

whose advice did I say I wasn’t going to take? Stop being a faggot, cunt.

What advice are you taking?

[quote]bignate wrote:

[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:

[quote]sexyxe wrote:
Im no expert, but you seem to have a really tight back the whole way through, good hip angle and seems fine to me in that regard.

I do however echo bignate’s opinion, in capitals, of you’re only doing 15 reps a week and that could explain quite a lot.

I need to get to one of these gyms in the States. Pretty much every video I’ve seen of deads or squats there isn’t anyone else in the gym! How good is that! [/quote]

I’m actually there early in those vids, I haven’t started my new job yet, it fills up more later…It’s also in an immense warehouse so there’s a ton of space. Love working out there.

With regards to reps: I only deadlift about 9-12 reps per week, and incline bench 15 reps total per week, and I progress on those. Is there something different with squatting? [/quote]

YOU DUMB FUCK. Yes a squat is different froma deadlift and from abench, and your squat will be different from everyone else squat. So while you may gain easy on the dl and bench, would it be just FUCKING CRAZY if you didnt gain that easily on another lift?

IF ALL YOUR FUCKING LIFTS took 15 reps a week to improve, then BRAVO you can cut most of your training time. O wait, most people need to do some fucking work to increase their lifts, hell a twenty rep squat workout has more reps than u after one set.

Honestly i dont even see how u are asking this question, the more reps u squat NO MATTER WHAT WEIGHT will help you get better at the movement, just because u only need 9-12 reps of dl’s a week doesnt mean more wouldnt benefit ur dl does it? START FUCKING SQUATING U SNUSS.

These posts are fuckign stupid, you ask a question then someone tells you o hey this might be a problem and you say, o but i didnt have to do that for this… or i dont need to because i do this… INSTEAD OF TAKING THE GOD DAMN ADVICE.

If you dont want the advice DONT FUCKING POST.

if you want the advice FUCKING LISTEN YOU CUNT.
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Jesus Dorothy, who rattled your cage

[quote]A.Lurker wrote:

[quote]bignate wrote:

[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:

[quote]sexyxe wrote:
Im no expert, but you seem to have a really tight back the whole way through, good hip angle and seems fine to me in that regard.

I do however echo bignate’s opinion, in capitals, of you’re only doing 15 reps a week and that could explain quite a lot.

I need to get to one of these gyms in the States. Pretty much every video I’ve seen of deads or squats there isn’t anyone else in the gym! How good is that! [/quote]

I’m actually there early in those vids, I haven’t started my new job yet, it fills up more later…It’s also in an immense warehouse so there’s a ton of space. Love working out there.

With regards to reps: I only deadlift about 9-12 reps per week, and incline bench 15 reps total per week, and I progress on those. Is there something different with squatting? [/quote]

YOU DUMB FUCK. Yes a squat is different froma deadlift and from abench, and your squat will be different from everyone else squat. So while you may gain easy on the dl and bench, would it be just FUCKING CRAZY if you didnt gain that easily on another lift?

IF ALL YOUR FUCKING LIFTS took 15 reps a week to improve, then BRAVO you can cut most of your training time. O wait, most people need to do some fucking work to increase their lifts, hell a twenty rep squat workout has more reps than u after one set.

Honestly i dont even see how u are asking this question, the more reps u squat NO MATTER WHAT WEIGHT will help you get better at the movement, just because u only need 9-12 reps of dl’s a week doesnt mean more wouldnt benefit ur dl does it? START FUCKING SQUATING U SNUSS.

These posts are fuckign stupid, you ask a question then someone tells you o hey this might be a problem and you say, o but i didnt have to do that for this… or i dont need to because i do this… INSTEAD OF TAKING THE GOD DAMN ADVICE.

If you dont want the advice DONT FUCKING POST.

if you want the advice FUCKING LISTEN YOU CUNT.
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Jesus Dorothy, who rattled your cage
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sorry ive been on t nation to much lately, seeing the same posts over and over again will get me, kinda surprised X isnt more agressive after going through the BB forum just the past few days hah

basicly, if its not working, change what youre doing

I would try box squats or if no box to squat to, use a flat bench.
Also, squat in a power rack and use the pins to set your bottom height, than squat from the bottom up, that will give you the feel your after.
Lastly, just squat more, you don’t have to go heavy, just use the bar (or a freeking broom handle for all I care) and squat to improve form for 15min a day until you get it.

Good luck

A few comments:

  1. Box squat - As mentioned, land gently and come to a complete stop. You mentioned this could be lack of hamstring strength. Possible but at 275 and a 500 DL, I doubt it. More likely muscle activation.

  2. In the original videos, as someone else mentioned you are shifting forward (se the rear view where you end up on oyur toes). As soon as you reverse direction upwards, focus on bringing oyur hips through, not pushing up.

  3. More volume - The squat is a differnt animal. Most O-lifters and even many powerlifters (possibly more European and IPF lifters than multi-ply maybe) will squat multiple times per week. Keep the weights lower and build up capacity. It will do many things including training the movement, building muscle and strength.

  4. Breatrhing - This is a diference between many bodybuilders and powerlifters. Try taking belly breath at the top, holding it throughout the rep. Then another rep. If you must breath make sure your out of the hole before exhaling.

  5. Final comment. Have you used a belt? Try one and see if you feel a difference.

Good luck.

[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
A few comments:

  1. Box squat - As mentioned, land gently and come to a complete stop. You mentioned this could be lack of hamstring strength. Possible but at 275 and a 500 DL, I doubt it. More likely muscle activation.

  2. In the original videos, as someone else mentioned you are shifting forward (se the rear view where you end up on oyur toes). As soon as you reverse direction upwards, focus on bringing oyur hips through, not pushing up.

  3. More volume - The squat is a differnt animal. Most O-lifters and even many powerlifters (possibly more European and IPF lifters than multi-ply maybe) will squat multiple times per week. Keep the weights lower and build up capacity. It will do many things including training the movement, building muscle and strength.

  4. Breatrhing - This is a diference between many bodybuilders and powerlifters. Try taking belly breath at the top, holding it throughout the rep. Then another rep. If you must breath make sure your out of the hole before exhaling.

  5. Final comment. Have you used a belt? Try one and see if you feel a difference.

Good luck. [/quote]

Thank you all for the constructive replies, I’ve been training box squats the last couple sessions. I actually already notice a few things, namely I have to really force myself to NOT go onto my toes, and to control the descent around parallel. When I control the descent better and don’t just ‘free fall’ at the end I actually end up feeling my heels driving into the ground, and then when I touch the box it’s easier to drive through them. I’m also bringing my stance in and working on breathing. I’ll do a couple squatting sessions this coming week and report back
Been thinking