Squat Rack Curls 5.0

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.

Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
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Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.

But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts won’t get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.

There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.

Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]

It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
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Chad Waerbury is not big, has not trained anyone to ever get big, and is not respected on this site for bodybuilding workouts. [/quote]

He has a ton of articles on this site and he is most certainly an authority on bodybuilding training. Maybe you should look up some of his articles. Guys don’t have to be huge, to have knowledge about that area. Saying hes not well respected, then why does he have so many articles on this very site?

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]ukrainian wrote:
An old guy at my temporary gym was using the T-Bar row machine to do deadlifts. He was a nice guy, but I was still surprised to see it used that way. [/quote]

I’m trying to think of how
did he turn around and face the machine and hold the loading pin with both hands???[/quote]

It was one of those. If it was the ones with the chest pad, I would be impressed. [/quote]

Ah
 I see now. Thanks for the pic.

I wouldn’t put it past some people to fuck anything at the gym.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
Where was that gym Clinton? Please not powerhouse in Lincoln Park!! I can see roguevampire 20-30 years from now all wrinkled with denial. Dude, just accept it!!! [/quote]

It was a powerhouse gym but in the Grand Rapids area.

I have no stories . I bought my own stuff years ago so I didn’t have to deal with this stuff . Of possibly many people here,

Can I come work out with Tom?

My roommate laughs about how he squats more than I do even though he weighs twenty pounds less. He does quarter squats.

RogueVampire, can I come train with you? I want to be big and strong too.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.

Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]

Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.

But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts won’t get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.

There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.

Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]

It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
[/quote]

Chad Waerbury is not big, has not trained anyone to ever get big, and is not respected on this site for bodybuilding workouts. [/quote]

He has a ton of articles on this site and he is most certainly an authority on bodybuilding training. Maybe you should look up some of his articles. Guys don’t have to be huge, to have knowledge about that area. Saying hes not well respected, then why does he have so many articles on this very site?
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I said he’s not well respected by bodybuilding standards. Let’s ask the biggest guys here whether they would listen to Chad over other people. In bodybuilding, if you’re not big, people won’t listen to you. Hell, I am bigger than Chad and people wouldn’t listen to me as an authority for bodybuilding unless they are at least 60 lbs smaller than me. I have read his articles, which is why I am saying this now.

Did Rogue really just crap all over total body workouts and then cite Chad Waterbury as a bodybuilding authority? Who was it that wrote TBT again?

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.

Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]

Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.

But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts won’t get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.

There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.

Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]

It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
[/quote]

Chad Waerbury is not big, has not trained anyone to ever get big, and is not respected on this site for bodybuilding workouts. [/quote]

He has a ton of articles on this site and he is most certainly an authority on bodybuilding training. Maybe you should look up some of his articles. Guys don’t have to be huge, to have knowledge about that area. Saying hes not well respected, then why does he have so many articles on this very site?
[/quote]
My cancer doctor has never had cancer, but I trust him

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Did Rogue really just crap all over total body workouts and then cite Chad Waterbury as a bodybuilding authority? Who was it that wrote TBT again?

I’m pretty sure he just likes to crap all over things to get a rise out of people. Seems to work like a charm.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.

Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]

Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.

But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts won’t get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.

There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.

Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]

It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
[/quote]

Chad Waerbury is not big, has not trained anyone to ever get big, and is not respected on this site for bodybuilding workouts. [/quote]

He has a ton of articles on this site and he is most certainly an authority on bodybuilding training. Maybe you should look up some of his articles. Guys don’t have to be huge, to have knowledge about that area. Saying hes not well respected, then why does he have so many articles on this very site?
[/quote]
My cancer doctor has never had cancer, but I trust him[/quote]

You’re playing with fire there JP.

Yesterday, some guy was doing curls with a 10 on each side of the bar in the squat rack. I asked him if he could do them somewhere else or if I could work in with him cause I wanted to squat. He said “No. I have 2 more sets.” I got angry at that and the rude way he said it but I didn’t say anything other than ok, cause I just started working as a trainer there and didn’t wanna get in trouble. Made me too angry. On the bright side, there’s a former Mr USA in our gym who’s taken me under his wing:)

Am I the only one that thinks that the whole “no squat rack curls ever lest you have an adult ostrich inserted into your rectum” thing may be a bit overbearing to some extent? Like, I could understand if we were talking about some douchebag who’s taking forever, but otherwise I’m not going to bust a gasket over waiting the five minutes it takes the average person to do a few sets which I was going to spend warming up with some type of dynamic stretching anyway.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks that the whole “no squat rack curls ever lest you have an adult ostrich inserted into your rectum” thing may be a bit overbearing to some extent? Like, I could understand if we were talking about some douchebag who’s taking forever, but otherwise I’m not going to bust a gasket over waiting the five minutes it takes the average person to do a few sets which I was going to spend warming up with some type of dynamic stretching anyway.[/quote]

Nope

I never cared if someone curls there. Like you id just go do some other warm up stuff til they finished.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks that the whole “no squat rack curls ever lest you have an adult ostrich inserted into your rectum” thing may be a bit overbearing to some extent? Like, I could understand if we were talking about some douchebag who’s taking forever, but otherwise I’m not going to bust a gasket over waiting the five minutes it takes the average person to do a few sets which I was going to spend warming up with some type of dynamic stretching anyway.[/quote]

Agreed. I don’t really care what you’re doing, as long as you need the rack and are putting effort into it.

We’ve all seen “powerlifters” take up the cages for 50 or so minutes haven’t we?

That shit is more annoying.

3 sets of 4 squats taking a half hour


[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
We’ve all seen “powerlifters” take up the cages for 50 or so minutes haven’t we?

That shit is more annoying.

3 sets of 4 squats taking a half hour
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Might somewhat be guilty of this haha.

As my avatar shows, I’ve always thought that someone curling in the squat rack could just take 3 steps backwards and set the weight on the floor. Exceptions would include those with recent back injuries or some reason why they can’t deadlift a relatively light weight. But otherwise I don’t see any reason to use the rack for things other than squats, good mornings, shrugs, etc.

People are my gym are pretty good about following the unwritten rule though. The only time I’ve personally had to wait for a rack is when the guy before me is doing a worthwhile exercise in the rack.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
We’ve all seen “powerlifters” take up the cages for 50 or so minutes haven’t we?

That shit is more annoying.

3 sets of 4 squats taking a half hour
[/quote]

Might somewhat be guilty of this haha.[/quote]

Lol you fucking asshole

I bet you bench in the cage too without using bands when there are open benches available.