[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
[quote]ishinator wrote:
Some new lolzgym videos
- YouTube [/quote]
Looks like this nearly got lost in all the RV drama.
Fucking hilarious though! 1:05 in the first video was my favourite![/quote]
The fatceps got me laughing good.
[quote]jimbopv123 wrote:
can someone explain whats so taboo about curling in the squat rack? not that i do it i use a short EZ bar for barbell curls because my wrists are bad. I just dont understand where you are supposed to straightbar curl then?? also wats the big deal if no ones using it? Im not complaining but ive been seeing this all over and figured id grow some nuts and just ask lol[/quote]
There really isnât anything wrong with doing that in and of itself.
However, so many people who are regulars here constantly have to wait to get their squats done because of someone who does their curls in the squat rack. So they say just donât do it.
In actuality, if noone is using or about to use the squat rack, you can go in their and jerk off for all we care.
But the thing is you can do curls literally anywhere. Empty bars are not exclusive to squat racks and if you can curl it, it shouldnât be an issue picking it up off the floor to begin your set.
So making someone wait for a piece of equipment that is NECESSARY for their exercise but is NOT NECESSARY for your exercise is where the problem lies.
And for most people, theyâre going to get their squats done first, while theyâre fresh and ready to put in real work. So making them wait for an unnecessary reason isnât just holding them up from squats, itâs holding them up from their whole workout.
And just to add fuel to the fire, most people who do this are squirts who should be more worried about squats than curls anyway. This only makes it even worse. Especially when you tell them that and they blow you off.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
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Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?
I have just seen the wierdest exerciseâŠtaking a photo would have been rude so youâ ll just have to use my powers of description to imagine this. Squat down ATG and then bend forward and round your back until your armpits are over your knees. Now pick up an EZ bar and do arm curls, but you do them while rocking backwards and forwards in rythm with the curl.
I suppose it could be described as a crouching concentration curlâŠ
Why Lord? Why?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
âŠQuestion: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?
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When your lifeâs goal is to crush the Japanese people, and those who remind you of Japanese, you are ALWAYS doing full-body workouts.[/quote]
LMFAO!!!
An old guy at my temporary gym was using the T-Bar row machine to do deadlifts. He was a nice guy, but I was still surprised to see it used that way.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]A.Lurker wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
If they are doing more than 3 sets, they are doing to many and donât know what they are doing.[/quote]
Lol @ (more than 3 sets), guess youâre not a BBâer
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Let me clarify. no than 3 worksets on any given exercise. Thats not counting warmup sets. I think its been pretty much proven, that few sets done to high intensity is better for growth than simply doing set after set after set. remember, whos more jacked, a marathon runner or a sprinter. hmmmmmmm?[/quote]
I do 5 singles for my big lifts. Itâs pretty high intensity. That is more than 3 sets. I am definitely no marathon runner.
I think it might be best to abandon this thread. You have your views on how to train at the gym and most people disagree. Either that, or you might need to re-evaluate how you treat the gym. I know I had to change my thinking about it.[/quote]
5 singles, thats a powerlifting workout. Not a bodybuilding workout.
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]
Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]
I donât nor have i ever done full body workouts. Maybe you should look up DC training sometime. full body workouts are for newbies, not experienced lifters.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
An old guy at my temporary gym was using the T-Bar row machine to do deadlifts. He was a nice guy, but I was still surprised to see it used that way. [/quote]
Iâm trying to think of howâŠdid he turn around and face the machine and hold the loading pin with both hands???
[quote]JLD2k3 wrote:
Yesterday at lunch I witnessed a late-20âs dude with gelâd up hair wearing a heavy duty (EFS like) belt and gloves to do 1-plate calf raises in the smith.[/quote]
Why when we talk about people, we always use age as the first description. This country is so biased and obsessed with age.
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]
Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]
It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]JLD2k3 wrote:
Yesterday at lunch I witnessed a late-20âs dude with gelâd up hair wearing a heavy duty (EFS like) belt and gloves to do 1-plate calf raises in the smith.[/quote]
Why when we talk about people, we always use age as the first description. This country is so biased and obsessed with age.[/quote]
Itâs because you save a lot of time.
You could say someone was an idiot, or stupid, or ignorant or many other wordsâŠor you could save time and just say the guy was 20.
You say it was a 20 year-old girl and you save a helluva lot of time.
I very rarely work out in public gyms but found myself in one recently. As I was dressing in the locker room, I got the whiff of what smelled like feces. I started looking around looking for the source when I glanced down at my feet and was horrified to see that I had stepped on this little nugget of shit that some barn yard animal had left next to his locker. I ended up rinsing the shit out of the tread of my shoe in the sink, dressed back into my street cloths, and left. Never lifted a weight. People are fucking disgusting.
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
An old guy at my temporary gym was using the T-Bar row machine to do deadlifts. He was a nice guy, but I was still surprised to see it used that way. [/quote]
Iâm trying to think of howâŠdid he turn around and face the machine and hold the loading pin with both hands???[/quote]
It was one of those. If it was the ones with the chest pad, I would be impressed.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
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Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]
It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
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Chad Waerbury is not big, has not trained anyone to ever get big, and is not respected on this site for bodybuilding workouts.
Where was that gym Clinton? Please not powerhouse in Lincoln Park!! I can see roguevampire 20-30 years from now all wrinkled with denial. Dude, just accept it!!!
rogue youâre such a douche itâs not even funny anymore.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]
Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]
I donât nor have i ever done full body workouts. Maybe you should look up DC training sometime. full body workouts are for newbies, not experienced lifters. [/quote]
Oh, my mistake, for some reason I got the impression you do full-body workouts. I think it was the comment about working each bodypart more than once per week. Donât know how I made that connectionâŠ
Although for the record, there are at least a few pro bodybuilders who do full-body workouts (or cycle in full-body workouts) that Iâve read about. If you want to call them newbs, thatâs on you.
Edit: I read the article on this site on DC training when it was first put up. I think I remember it pretty well. 2 to 3 days per week. Split all the bodyparts over 2 workouts. Very specific order (because that was the order that worked for the guy who started it). Rest-pause sets of 10 using a weight you can normally do only 5 reps of, right? Followed by long fascia stretches. And finishing workouts with widow-makers. This is all going off memory, how close am I?
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
There a quite a few training programs that call for low sets. most lifters only work each bodypart 1x per week. I train each bodypart more often than that, so my set volume can be lower each session and i will still end up with enough volume overall.
Those programs, are, dc training, max ot training and there are others.
[/quote]
Doing 3 sets for any given exercise makes sense when you do full-body workouts 3 or more times per week.
But a lot of people, as you said, work 1 or 2 parts in a single workout, so it wouldnât make sense for them to do only 3 sets for EVERY exercise. The assistance exercises yes, but your main lifts wonât get any more volume than what you do on that day in most cases, so you would want to do more than 3.
There are lots of programs that call for all sorts of numbers. Including plenty that call for more than 3 sets. The key is to find the program that works for you, now.
Question: have you always, exclusively done full-body workouts?[/quote]
It seems you are still living in the Arnold era, where bodybuilders believed they had to do 20 sets per bodypart to grow. Chad Waterbury, a well respected authority, that has many articles on this site, has said many times, when you work a bodypart more often than 1x per week, you must adjust for volume. So many bodybuilders have become bigger than ever, doing the low volume approach. Far bigger than arnold ever was.
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Not at all. Thereâs a big difference between more than 3 and 20. And bodybuilders nowadays also have advances in other ways that can help them grow aside from just volume in their workout programs.
My attitude (which has mainly been shaped by reading the articles on this site, including Chadâs) is that everyone is different and what works for you may not work for someone else. Thatâs why trial and error is so important. Youâve found what works for you and youâre seeing results. Thatâs awesome. Iâm happy for you.
But that doesnât mean that any Joe Schmoe weight lifter can come start doing your workouts with you the same way you do them and see the same gains. For some people, more volume will work better. And more volume can be just another set or 2, it doesnât need to be another 15 sets like youâre making me out to be saying.