[quote]KiloSprinter wrote:
swivel wrote:
stuff like golf and poker were called “sport” centuries before football or mma existed. that is just plain fact. that’s what the word means.
sport is essentially anything which isn’t work. a “sportscar” is a the vehicle you use for pleasure. a “sportscoat” is the coat that isn’t your work coat. hunting for food is work. hunting for recreation is sport. lifting stones to build a wall is work. lifting for strongman is sport.
there’s nothing about the meaning of “sport” that requires demanding physical activity or even competition. why do you think “sporting goods” stores are full of fishing rods and hot-seats ?
This makes the most sense.
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I disagree. In that case, reading for pleasure would be a sport, what we’re doing right now would be sport. Hell, now that I think about it, it would render “professional sports” an oxymoron.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
KiloSprinter wrote:
swivel wrote:
stuff like golf and poker were called “sport” centuries before football or mma existed. that is just plain fact. that’s what the word means.
sport is essentially anything which isn’t work. a “sportscar” is a the vehicle you use for pleasure. a “sportscoat” is the coat that isn’t your work coat. hunting for food is work. hunting for recreation is sport. lifting stones to build a wall is work. lifting for strongman is sport.
there’s nothing about the meaning of “sport” that requires demanding physical activity or even competition. why do you think “sporting goods” stores are full of fishing rods and hot-seats ?
This makes the most sense.
I disagree. In that case, reading for pleasure would be a sport, what we’re doing right now would be sport. Hell, now that I think about it, it would render “professional sports” an oxymoron.
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yes “professional sports” is an oxymoron. realizing this proves nothing. and to define what we are doing right now as sport is clearly more in line with the meaning of the word than those on the board who want to exclude anything that doesn’t involve asskicking.
regardless of your emotions, history and etymology have defined the use of the word “sport”. history can be augmented but not changed. so…sorry, just because you don’t like something, or you can wear a hat doing it, or fat guys can do it, might make it minimally challenging, not very physical, or even gay, but it doesn’t make it not sport.
be a sport and just look up the word will ya ? and while you’re at it look up the word “spoilsport”. you are aware that “sports stores” stock things like golf clubs, fishing poles, darts, and “sport-kites” aren’t you ? hell they even have panama hats for the david lee roth fans out there.
I disagree. In that case, reading for pleasure would be a sport, what we’re doing right now would be sport. Hell, now that I think about it, it would render “professional sports” an oxymoron.
yes “professional sports” is an oxymoron. realizing this proves nothing. and to define what we are doing right now as sport is clearly more in line with the meaning of the word than those on the board who want to exclude anything that doesn’t involve asskicking.
regardless of your emotions, history and etymology have defined the use of the word “sport”. history can be augmented but not changed. so…sorry, just because you don’t like something, or you can wear a hat doing it, or fat guys can do it, might make it minimally challenging, not very physical, or even gay, but it doesn’t make it not sport.
be a sport and just look up the word will ya ? and while you’re at it look up the word “spoilsport”. you are aware that “sports stores” stock things like golf clubs, fishing poles, darts, and “sport-kites” aren’t you ? hell they even have panama hats for the david lee roth fans out there.
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“professional sports” is not an oxymoron, it is a viable, everyday reality in our world.
I’m guessing that the rest of what you wrote was more directed at others than me, because I never what defines what a sport is not by whether hat or drunkeness is involved, and as far as looking up the definition, i’ve already posted thoughts on that.
[quote]Mwschwab wrote:
I’m really curious as to what qualifies something as a sport or a game. My lifting parter tries to tell me that the difference is that, in sports, the adjective for engaing in that sport is the name of the sport itself(in wrestling you wrestle, in running you run etc.) and that you play games (a soccer player, a baseball player)and that there is no qualitative difference in difficulty between sports and games.
I think it sounds like a good definintion, but under this rule golf is a sport. Can you guys help me determine a definition of what makes one activity a sport and another a game? Thanks
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That’s a pretty faulty definition. One who participates in archery is an archer, but I wouldn’t call archery a sport as much as a skill. Based on that definition, I could try to pass off reading and writing as sports as well, even a math competition(mathematician).
As for my definition, I think the different is only in the words. Don’t think that words are entirely, 100% representative of reality. IMO a sport is a type of game.
“professional sports” is not an oxymoron, it is a viable, everyday reality in our world.[/quote]
ok , it’s viable, everyday reality. and it’s an oxymoron. just like “dry ice”, “liquid gas”,“forced resignation”, local long-distance", and “forward lateral” are all viable everyday realities, as well as oxymora.[quote]
I’m guessing that the rest of what you wrote was more directed at others than me, because I never what defines what a sport is not by whether hat or drunkeness is involved, and as far as looking up the definition, i’ve already posted thoughts on that.[/quote]
yeah, more directed @ the thread in general.
but, as for your thoughts on the dictionary, i wouldn’t call it science either. more like a historical reference of usage. it’s incredibly accurate as far as what’s been done. but it is “inexact”,as you say, as far as what’s in flow at the moment.
of course language is evolving. people stretch and pull and play with the usage of words everyday. sometimes the changes catch on and become common. most times they don’t. the folks on this thread are trying to re-define the meaning of “sport” as it has been used through history, and is still used today. and you can change it, if your thinking catches on w/ enough people. but you can’t change the history of usage which precedes your ideas.
more power to your cause btw. and when dick’s sporting goods stops selling golf clubs, i will finally agree with you
I note reading this thread that there seems to be an assumption that sport is somehow “real” while games belong to a lesser breed. This is definitely wrong. In my opinion rugby is the most demanding activity there is requiring skill, endurance, courage and willpower. But it is a GAME! (Played in heaven, incidentally)
[quote]superscience wrote:
golf is a sport, it requires skill related fitness at a very high level and its very competitive. it requires power and co-ordination…
…however it does not require health related fitness. [/quote]
Neither does powerliting!! (sorry, had to be said!!)
[quote]Hanley wrote:
superscience wrote:
golf is a sport, it requires skill related fitness at a very high level and its very competitive. it requires power and co-ordination…
…however it does not require health related fitness.
Neither does powerliting!! (sorry, had to be said!!)[/quote]
