[quote]Mod Brian wrote:
WhiteTiger711 wrote:
Would it be ok to add a scoop to my breakfast AND post workout shake?
Both of these feedings should work well, although as someone already noted you don’t need to add L-Leucine to Surge Recovery as it already contains a healthy dose.[/quote]
I don’t use Surge recovery im having just Grow! shakes post workout. Im just concerned that im not using it to its full potential if im having 2 scoops within 2 hours…
[quote]WhiteTiger711 wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
WhiteTiger711 wrote:
Would it be ok to add a scoop to my breakfast AND post workout shake?
Both of these feedings should work well, although as someone already noted you don’t need to add L-Leucine to Surge Recovery as it already contains a healthy dose.
I don’t use Surge recovery im having just Grow! shakes post workout. Im just concerned that im not using it to its full potential if im having 2 scoops within 2 hours… [/quote]
I think the writeup said it’s best to spike levels every 4 hours or so.
I’d probably use the leucine with a morning meal, a pre-workout meal (if this is over 4 hours away from the morning feeding) and with something before bed. Makes the most sense to me, anyway. That’s 3 servings a day.
[quote]WhiteTiger711 wrote:
Mod Brian wrote:
WhiteTiger711 wrote:
Would it be ok to add a scoop to my breakfast AND post workout shake?
Both of these feedings should work well, although as someone already noted you don’t need to add L-Leucine to Surge Recovery as it already contains a healthy dose.
I don’t use Surge recovery im having just Grow! shakes post workout. Im just concerned that im not using it to its full potential if im having 2 scoops within 2 hours… [/quote]
I think your supplement budget would be better spent on Surge Recovery, rather than L-Leucine, if you’re currently only using Grow! PWO. It’s crucial to take advantage of the recovery period following training if you want to maximize your results.
Check out this articles by John Berardi for more on this.
As for L-Leucine, it’s not a problem to have two servings within 2 hours, although you may see a greater effect by spreading the dosing out more.
Anyone else noticed an increase in strength-endurance?
I was out of the gym for about two weeks, and yesterday was my second workout back. I repped for 3x10 weights I can barely push around 2x8.
[quote]Vash wrote:
Anyone else noticed an increase in strength-endurance?
I was out of the gym for about two weeks, and yesterday was my second workout back. I repped for 3x10 weights I can barely push around 2x8.[/quote]
We have had athletes report pretty significant increases in strength endurance and pure endurance after they began using L-Leucine.
[quote]pradaboy wrote:
billwise23 wrote:
Thanks, guillaume76!
From now on I’ll try to mix my Leucine powder with merely little (instead of one-half of a glass of) water or juice and see if it helps. Also, is there any reason why I should or shouldn’t add my Leucine powder to my Surge post workout drinks? (If this question is already being answered within this message board … ignore me)
I’ve also tried to edit my original message once (of above) but the system didn’t allow me … basically I wanted to clear up that what I experienced was only a slight-bitter taste; not “intenstly bitter” the way I made it sounded to be.
I believe Surge has 4g Leucine already so it wouldn’t help much. Can’t hurt of course but there are better uses if you can only use it with 4 meals a day.[/quote]
Agreed. And I didn’t realize Surge has 4g Leucine that’s contained within until after I’ve posted my orignal posts of above … (Meaning pretty much by accident we’ve already been doing (or using) L-Leucine … oops! But sure for good!)
[quote]NewDamage wrote:
I can’t believe people are actually sprinkling it on food.
It is so much easier to just put it in your mouth and wash it down with water.
Man up, people![/quote]
Yup, that’s what I’ve been doing.
Quick and painless.
I tried this powder on some food and I thought it tasted weird. Then, I tried mixing it with water, nasty!!
Then,the last time I took it I put water in my mouth and shoveled a serving in my mouth and tried to swallow as fast as possible. Still tasted like shit. No, I am not sure what shit tastes like but I would imagine this is a good start.
Hopefully I can wash it down with gatorade or something similar. I have only used 2 - 5 servings due to taste. Just my experience.
[quote]SBT wrote:
NewDamage wrote:
I can’t believe people are actually sprinkling it on food.
It is so much easier to just put it in your mouth and wash it down with water.
Man up, people!
Yup, that’s what I’ve been doing.
Quick and painless.[/quote]
x2 it does seem to fizz up a little though
Just a question of curiosity. I’m wondering if there is a correlation to finding broccoli and brusselsprouts bitter and finding this leucine product bitter.
I was just thinking back to my high school biology days and remembered there is a gene that determines if brusselsprouts/broccoli will taste bitter or not and was wondering if the same gene affects the taste of leucine.
I’d love to know if that’s true or not true for any of ya’ll if it’s convenient to say so.
What is interesting when comparing pricing for leucine is that Biotest throws in free shipping.
On half a kilo or so of product, that can be a good amount of money.
And the price is suddenly very competitive, especially with bodybuilding.com
Compare:
500 grams, $35.95+shipping.
Of course there are other prices and such, e.g. Amazon.com, but after shipping it is still a wash.
That was interesting to check, all in all.
pulled up some more research:
http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/275/5/C1232.pdf
can somebody that knows more than I do about physiology answer this:
It says that leucine enhances insulin sensitivity of the liver and skeletal muscle by binding to a specific site on the cells. It also says that by the same mechanism and a similar binding site, it INHIBITS the insulin sensitivity of fat tissue.
Am I reading this right?
I am clueless when it comes to nutrition, so say what you will about this, but is Leucine something that should be cycled, or can it be as regular as protein? Cause I’m nearing the end of my first order, and I don’t know if I should go straight to another, or wait a few weeks.
Thanks
The article says 20grams a day is the limit. But is there a more specific grams per pound recommendation? One more thing, is it safe to mix leucine in water and leave it for a few hours? I’m asking this because right now I’m a senior in highschool, and bringing “white powder” to school isn’t exactly something i should do.
[quote]Mondy wrote:
The article says 20grams a day is the limit. But is there a more specific grams per pound recommendation? One more thing, is it safe to mix leucine in water and leave it for a few hours? I’m asking this because right now I’m a senior in highschool, and bringing “white powder” to school isn’t exactly something i should do.[/quote]
Pretty sure Thib said he was taking it 5 times a day (assuming he was taking the recommended servings) and that would equate to 25 grams. There’s no way 20 grams is good enough for someone who is 200 lbs. and for someone who is almost 300 lbs, you know?
hey guys, weird question, has anyone’s urine changed color since they’ve started taking leuince? mine has taken on a pink/purple/rosy color, though it might be due to som foods, just asking.
[quote]medevac wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
toby_w wrote:
Would this work with HMB?
people still use HMB? I remember in HS that stuff was like $97/bottle at GNC and didn’t do jack.
hahaha I was thinking maybe it was some new supplement with the same name. I didn’t even know it was still being made? It was so expensive (this was the college days and I think it was EAS brand) and didn’t do a damn thing for me.
After the first time I read that EAS supplement report book thing that Phillips put out I was interested in it, but after trying Phosphagain I would have eaten ground donkey dick if Bill Phillips would have told me to. As a undereater/hard gainer who had only taken a weight gainer up to that point, Phosphagain was like gold.
I’m trying L-Leucine this week. So far I have only been able to detect it on my over-easy eggs. Omelets and other types of eggs seem fine. I taste nothing in any other food I’ve added it to, but I can detect the texture a bit.
Of course I used to drink Weider’s Muscle Mass 4000 in the early 90’s. And that stuff managed to take two days worth of sugar intake per serving and make it taste like foamy ass. So maybe I’m immune.
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I remember DYING to get my hands on some HMB back in the day. I still remember reading about it in Muscle Media 2000 when it first came out. Bill Phillips had his little journal posting that said HMB “feels like Deca.”
Awesome.
Biotest dudes-
Has there been any research concerning supplementing a vegan diet with L-Leucine and other BCAA’s/EAA’s?
[quote]pstruhar7786 wrote:
hey guys, weird question, has anyone’s urine changed color since they’ve started taking leuince? mine has taken on a pink/purple/rosy color, though it might be due to som foods, just asking.[/quote]
You are probably flushing out some mineral(s) or vitamin(s). My first guess would be to get your kidneys and liver checked (hepatic function panel).
If it is tea colored, that is a jaundiced liver, usually, and your liver’s enzymatic activity will be through the roof.
After taking for a few weeks I started getting terrible cramps in my back. Son started taking it a few days after me and this morning he has cramps in his back. Any one else having this proplem?