[quote]Sloth wrote:
Come on, how is the guy running away an ongoing and immediate threat to the officer or the public?
Let’s say he did go for the taser prior to where the video picks up. Why would he go for a cop’s taser if he’s armed himself? Because he wasn’t. So he’s evading (running away) unarmed…
You don’t take a life over that. That officer is a murderer, barring some new information that I can’t even imagine.[/quote]
This.
If the cop ran up to him and blasted him a couple times with a night stick… I’d say “well that is what happens when you run from cops”.
If he beat him bloody with a night stick? Eh, I’d say the cop went overboard and is kinda a dick.
Shoot the guy? No. It isn’t like he was Usan Bolt out there, my 3 year old could have caught that dude.
Maybe there is some evidence out there that says I’m wrong, but I just don’t think this is going to come back a clean shoot, and this cop is going to have a real rough time in prison. [/quote]
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
That whole video looks like it was almost staged. Any $$ on the whole thing being a hoax to strong arm us into having the feds oversee the local PDs?[/quote]
There’s no reason it would need to be staged; the majority of police shootings are at least somewhat questionable. Publicizing all of these recent incidents is, however, definitely an attempt to get people begging for federal oversight. The attached video is at least as questionable, and probably more so, than any of the recent highly-publicized white cop on black guy shootings, but it did not get nearly as much publicity-it is both harder to justify and harder to blame on racism instead of persecution of those involved in victimless crimes, and overzealous police tactics.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
That whole video looks like it was almost staged. Any $$ on the whole thing being a hoax to strong arm us into having the feds oversee the local PDs?[/quote]
There’s no reason it would need to be staged; the majority of police shootings are at least somewhat questionable. Publicizing all of these recent incidents is, however, definitely an attempt to get people begging for federal oversight. …instead of persecution of those involved in victimless crimes, and overzealous police tactics.
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Assuming I agree with you about ‘systemic overzealous police tactics’. You else would people appeal to other than the Feds?
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
That whole video looks like it was almost staged. Any $$ on the whole thing being a hoax to strong arm us into having the feds oversee the local PDs?[/quote]
There’s no reason it would need to be staged; the majority of police shootings are at least somewhat questionable. Publicizing all of these recent incidents is, however, definitely an attempt to get people begging for federal oversight. …instead of persecution of those involved in victimless crimes, and overzealous police tactics.
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Assuming I agree with you about ‘systemic overzealous police tactics’. You else would people appeal to other than the Feds?
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The municipalities employing officers. It’s easier to control local government(or to move to another city/county/state) than it is to control Leviathan. Support the Oath Keepers and Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, and the big one: STOP CALLING POLICE.
Cop was lazy for shooting him, however if you run/reach with a cop it’s minimum a beat down, and should be forced sterilization.
You have to be retarded, or seen one too many movies to think that you’ll run away from the police, or get into a physical altercation and have an outcome favorable to you. I would love to know what these people (this guy, m.brown, garner) thought was going to happen before engaging with police.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Come on, how is the guy running away an ongoing and immediate threat to the officer or the public?
Let’s say he did go for the taser prior to where the video picks up. Why would he go for a cop’s taser if he’s armed himself? Because he wasn’t. So he’s evading (running away) unarmed…
You don’t take a life over that. That officer is a murderer, barring some new information that I can’t even imagine.[/quote]
This.
If the cop ran up to him and blasted him a couple times with a night stick… I’d say “well that is what happens when you run from cops”.
If he beat him bloody with a night stick? Eh, I’d say the cop went overboard and is kinda a dick.
Shoot the guy? No. It isn’t like he was Usan Bolt out there, my 3 year old could have caught that dude.
Maybe there is some evidence out there that says I’m wrong, but I just don’t think this is going to come back a clean shoot, and this cop is going to have a real rough time in prison. [/quote]
I gotta tell you, the way that officer drew down on that guy, nice and calm like, makes me think the guy might have done it before, or at least envisioned it so many times in his head that when the moment for action actually arrived, he was more than ready to act.
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That’s what training is all about. That’s a good thing, until it isn’t.
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[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
That whole video looks like it was almost staged. Any $$ on the whole thing being a hoax to strong arm us into having the feds oversee the local PDs?[/quote]
There’s no reason it would need to be staged; the majority of police shootings are at least somewhat questionable. Publicizing all of these recent incidents is, however, definitely an attempt to get people begging for federal oversight. The attached video is at least as questionable, and probably more so, than any of the recent highly-publicized white cop on black guy shootings, but it did not get nearly as much publicity-it is both harder to justify and harder to blame on racism instead of persecution of those involved in victimless crimes, and overzealous police tactics.
I was just going to post this video and ask the same question. If the cop shot a white man under the same circumstances, would his life matter?
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
There’s no reason it would need to be staged; the majority of police shootings are at least somewhat questionable. Publicizing all of these recent incidents is, however, definitely an attempt to get people begging for federal oversight. The attached video is at least as questionable, and probably more so, than any of the recent highly-publicized white cop on black guy shootings, but it did not get nearly as much publicity-it is both harder to justify and harder to blame on racism instead of persecution of those involved in victimless crimes, and overzealous police tactics.
I was just going to post this video and ask the same question. If the cop shot a white man under the same circumstances, would his life matter?
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For what it’s worth, I think that two of the officers were eventually charged for that one, too.
Yeah I finally watched it. The shooting didn?t disturb me as much as the lack of medical attention afterward. Did the guy die instantly or was he bleeding out while the cops walked around and did nothing? Getting shot with a pistol normally takes a while. Alright, you shot him and cuffed him, now you stand around and calmly watch him die? No putting pressure on wounds or doing CPR? And that goes for all of them, not just the shooter.
Really, I’d join the train of loathing law enforcement if it wasn’t already abundantly clear that acts such as the ones shown in these videos have been happening for over half a century. Might get flamed for this, but I believe we are very fortunate to have a minority of badge-wearing civilian killers juxtaposed by the discord of man in third world countries, where your life expectancy is cut in half because your neighbor or even your fucking brother wants to douse you in gasoline and set you on fire.
For what it’s worth, I think that two of the officers were eventually charged for that one, too. [/quote]
True, but you do not hear any mention of this incident like you do or even in conjunction with Michael Brown, Eric Garner, or Tamir Rice.
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Certainly not. You also don’t hear anything when black officers kill white kids, or when black officers kill other black folks. Those stories don’t sell. The United States of America of 2015 falls well short of MLK’s dream, and the dream is really no closer to being reality today than it was then.
For what it’s worth, I think that two of the officers were eventually charged for that one, too. [/quote]
True, but you do not hear any mention of this incident like you do or even in conjunction with Michael Brown, Eric Garner, or Tamir Rice.
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That’s because white cops shooting black people is disproportionately low compared to the number of black violent offenders and white officers. It’s about 1 in 4 cases of police shooting.
