[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Horrible show is horrible.
Seriously THE worst written shit on TV.
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What do you consider to be the best written shit on TV?[/quote]
Ignore him. [/quote]
I can’t help myself. I have to know what I’ve been missing…[/quote]
Its only mindless hate with no purpose.
You think Bobby is gonna get offed next?
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Very likely. First I want to see how Piney’s murder is handled by SAMCRO. Are they really going to fall for Clay’s attempted cover-up after Donna?[/quote]
Clay was desperate if he had to kill Piney in such a sloppy manner. And the bloody LS won’t mean anything to Jax or Bobby. They’re too smart. Clay will either find a way to pin it on Jax or use a rock solid alibi to convince the club he’s innocent.
This looks terrible for Clay. Such a sloppy killing.
Also, does Opie have any hidden anger toward Clay or is he over it? Cause I never see it.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Horrible show is horrible.
Seriously THE worst written shit on TV.
[/quote]
What do you consider to be the best written shit on TV?[/quote]
Ignore him. [/quote]
I can’t help myself. I have to know what I’ve been missing…[/quote]
Its only mindless hate with no purpose.
You think Bobby is gonna get offed next?
[/quote]
Very likely. First I want to see how Piney’s murder is handled by SAMCRO. Are they really going to fall for Clay’s attempted cover-up after Donna?[/quote]
I was thinking that Opie is going to think it was Jax. After all he did tell Opie he was going to check up on him. [/quote]
I’m thinking the same thing, but how is Clay gonna convince Opie that his best friend killed his father.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Horrible show is horrible.
Seriously THE worst written shit on TV.
[/quote]
What do you consider to be the best written shit on TV?[/quote]
Ignore him. [/quote]
I can’t help myself. I have to know what I’ve been missing…[/quote]
Its only mindless hate with no purpose.
You think Bobby is gonna get offed next?
[/quote]
Very likely. First I want to see how Piney’s murder is handled by SAMCRO. Are they really going to fall for Clay’s attempted cover-up after Donna?[/quote]
I was thinking that Opie is going to think it was Jax. After all he did tell Opie he was going to check up on him. [/quote]
Good point. It would be in Clay’s interests to put the suspicion on Jax.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Horrible show is horrible.
Seriously THE worst written shit on TV.
[/quote]
What do you consider to be the best written shit on TV?[/quote]
Ignore him. [/quote]
I can’t help myself. I have to know what I’ve been missing…[/quote]
Its only mindless hate with no purpose.
You think Bobby is gonna get offed next?
[/quote]
Very likely. First I want to see how Piney’s murder is handled by SAMCRO. Are they really going to fall for Clay’s attempted cover-up after Donna?[/quote]
Clay was desperate if he had to kill Piney in such a sloppy manner. And the bloody LS won’t mean anything to Jax or Bobby. They’re too smart. Clay will either find a way to pin it on Jax or use a rock solid alibi to convince the club he’s innocent.
This looks terrible for Clay. Such a sloppy killing.
Also, does Opie have any hidden anger toward Clay or is he over it? Cause I never see it.[/quote]
Clay is incapable of a clean kill at the moment even if he wanted to - his hands are fucked from arthritis.
I think Opie was convinced that Clay was acting in the best interests of the club, and he directed his vengeance at Stahl instead…but…if and when Opie finds out the truth about Piney, he’s going to go after Clay for Donna as well, since there’s no scapegoat this time.
Anybody notice what Clay wrote (in Piney’s blood) on that picture after killing him? I’m assuming it was one of the cartel’s gang symbols. Could be how Clay expects to explain the murder.
[quote]Rasto wrote:
Anybody notice what Clay wrote (in Piney’s blood) on that picture after killing him? I’m assuming it was one of the cartel’s gang symbols. Could be how Clay expects to explain the murder.[/quote]
We believe so, but its still sloppy by Clay. Decapitation would have been more of the Cartel’s style, but a simple shotgun blast to the chest. Clay will have to pull this one out of his ass to convince the club that he didn’t kill Piney.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Ok, what about Gemma? If Clay is revealed to be John Teller’s killer, will Gemma be exposed as well?[/quote]
Depends how deep her involvement goes :we know that she was aware of John’s plans for the club, did not approve of them (she tried to keep the journal hidden from Jax), and sided with Clay over the direction he took the MC in.
What we don’t know is whether or not she lead John into a trap. There’s at least a season in the “hows” and “whys” of John’s death.
We believe so, but its still sloppy by Clay. Decapitation would have been more of the Cartel’s style, but a simple shotgun blast to the chest. Clay will have to pull this one out of his ass to convince the club that he didn’t kill Piney.[/quote]
Agreed, definitely sloppy on the part of Clay, just thought it was interesting how he put that symbol in blood, kind of like Jax did a season (or two?) ago when they killed the guy they framed for Donna’s murder.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Ok, what about Gemma? If Clay is revealed to be John Teller’s killer, will Gemma be exposed as well?[/quote]
Depends how deep her involvement goes :we know that she was aware of John’s plans for the club, did not approve of them (she tried to keep the journal hidden from Jax), and sided with Clay over the direction he took the MC in.
What we don’t know is whether or not she lead John into a trap. There’s at least a season in the “hows” and “whys” of John’s death. [/quote]
I think she’s just as guilty as Clay. She’s a cutthroat killer just like her man.
Another question: My main man Tig, what do you think will happen with him?
We believe so, but its still sloppy by Clay. Decapitation would have been more of the Cartel’s style, but a simple shotgun blast to the chest. Clay will have to pull this one out of his ass to convince the club that he didn’t kill Piney.[/quote]
Agreed, definitely sloppy on the part of Clay, just thought it was interesting how he put that symbol in blood, kind of like Jax did a season (or two?) ago when they killed the guy they framed for Donna’s murder.[/quote]
Yep, Jax shot him in the belly so that the SOA symbol was unrecognizable.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Ok, what about Gemma? If Clay is revealed to be John Teller’s killer, will Gemma be exposed as well?[/quote]
Depends how deep her involvement goes :we know that she was aware of John’s plans for the club, did not approve of them (she tried to keep the journal hidden from Jax), and sided with Clay over the direction he took the MC in.
What we don’t know is whether or not she lead John into a trap. There’s at least a season in the “hows” and “whys” of John’s death. [/quote]
I think she’s just as guilty as Clay. She’s a cutthroat killer just like her man.
Another question: My main man Tig, what do you think will happen with him?[/quote]
SoA is loosely based on Hamlet; Ron Perlman has said that he believes the series will follow the basic structure of the play to the end…
[possibly major spoilers]:
Tig’s closest counterpart is Laertes, who along with Hamlet (Jax), Claudius (Clay) and Horatio (Opie) survive until the climax of the play: Hamlet avenges his father’s death and kills Claudius; Laertes and Hamlet duel, Hamlet kills Laertes but dies after being scratched by Laertes’ poisoned rapier; Horatio survives to tell Hamlet’s story.
It’s safe to say the series won’t follow the above exactly, but I reckon there’ll be a climactic bloody showdown with Tig / Clay on one side and Jax / Opie on the other.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
here’s and interesting thought -
could Tig be the one that puts Clay in the ground?
he’s in love with Gemma
he’s detached from all reality
he is the only one that doesn’t have a real motive to kill Clay.
that would make for an interesting cliffhanger. Dunno if Sutter has the stones to make that happen, tho~[/quote]
I don’t think he loves her, I think they’re just good friends. Platonic friends? Weird, I know, but I think that’s what happening between them.
He’s not detached from reality, he’s just willing to kill people to protect his club.
Him and Clay are boys. It would be like Opie killing Jax. I can’t see it happening.
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Tig tried to kiss Gemma around the time that Chibs almost got blown up by the booby-trapped van. I don’t know if it’s love or infatuation, but he definitely has romantic feelings for her.
I don’t see Tig moving against Clay on his own, but if Gemma told Tig to off Clay, he would do it. No doubt about it.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
here’s and interesting thought -
could Tig be the one that puts Clay in the ground?
he’s in love with Gemma
he’s detached from all reality
he is the only one that doesn’t have a real motive to kill Clay.
that would make for an interesting cliffhanger. Dunno if Sutter has the stones to make that happen, tho~[/quote]
I don’t think he loves her, I think they’re just good friends. Platonic friends? Weird, I know, but I think that’s what happening between them.
He’s not detached from reality, he’s just willing to kill people to protect his club.
Him and Clay are boys. It would be like Opie killing Jax. I can’t see it happening.
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Tig tried to kiss Gemma around the time that Chibs almost got blown up by the booby-trapped van. I don’t know if it’s love or infatuation, but he definitely has romantic feelings for her.
I don’t see Tig moving against Clay on his own, but if Gemma told Tig to off Clay, he would do it. No doubt about it.[/quote]
Tig wouldn’t kill Clay over pussy. Even if its Peggy Bundy.
