[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
And the real issue isn’t race. It’s trust and honor within the club.
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Trust - which is something that Clay challenged at teh end of season 1 when he put a hit out on Opie, and had Tig make the hit - mistakenly got his ol lady, and every one in the club knows it.
I dont see how anyone can trust clay at this point.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
And the real issue isn’t race. It’s trust and honor within the club.
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Trust - which is something that Clay challenged at teh end of season 1 when he put a hit out on Opie, and had Tig make the hit - mistakenly got his ol lady, and every one in the club knows it.
I dont see how anyone can trust clay at this point.[/quote]
Exaclty. I meant to point that out in my last post and it slipped my mind.
Clay has been destroying the club since the day he and Gemma hopped into bed together and the empire he stole is crashing down around him. There are only a few ways this can end: the club completely implodes, they will split into two clubs and be at each other’s throats or another club/organization will see the opportunity and wipes them out. Either way, Clay is dead because he is NOT that bright. He’s actually pretty damn stupid. The only question is when the dust clears, who’s going to be left standing?
OP
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
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She got exactly what she deserved. She’s lucky he didn’t kill her. This isn’t Politically Correct World. He’s an outlaw biker and a convicted felon. What was he going to do? Ask her about her feelings? She’s a troublemaking whore who threatened his mother and his wife with a gun in his domain and where his family should feel safe. If you can’t comprehend why he did what he did, maybe you should watch OWN and not FX
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
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She got exactly what she deserved. She’s lucky he didn’t kill her. This isn’t Politically Correct World. He’s an outlaw biker and a convicted felon. What was he going to do? Ask her about her feelings? She’s a troublemaking whore who threatened his mother and his wife with a gun in his domain and where his family should feel safe. If you can’t comprehend why he did what he did, maybe you should watch OWN and not FX[/quote]
okay so those are your feelings.
He beat a woman. He would be shot in my world. Jax is a fuckhead that brought her in to his world. His mother and wife threatened to gang jump her because Opie is a douche that fucked around. How the fuck do you not get this? She was threatened by multiple people… get it now? In my world, let me tell you, Jax would have been disappeared if that had happened to me.
Get it? I know, I know, you men like to blame women for seducing you.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[/quote]
She got exactly what she deserved. She’s lucky he didn’t kill her. This isn’t Politically Correct World. He’s an outlaw biker and a convicted felon. What was he going to do? Ask her about her feelings? She’s a troublemaking whore who threatened his mother and his wife with a gun in his domain and where his family should feel safe. If you can’t comprehend why he did what he did, maybe you should watch OWN and not FX[/quote]
okay so those are your feelings.
He beat a woman. He would be shot in my world. Jax is a fuckhead that brought her in to his world. His mother and wife threatened to gang jump her because Opie is a douche that fucked around. How the fuck do you not get this? She was threatened by multiple people… get it now? In my world, let me tell you, Jax would have been disappeared if that had happened to me.
Get it? I know, I know, you men like to blame women for seducing you. [/quote]
Your world? It isn’t YOUR world. It’s a TV show. And to most people it doesn’t matter who did what when someone threatens your family. I didn’t say anything about her seducing anyone, but I love how you threw that in at the end like I used that as my reasoning and said men like me.
You don’t know me, so please don’t presume to do so. You and red herrings go together like salt and pepper. And YOUR world doesn’t impress or scare me. You don’t know MY world. We could go back and forth playing internet tough guy, but I have better things to do with my time. Have a good night.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[/quote]
She got exactly what she deserved. She’s lucky he didn’t kill her. This isn’t Politically Correct World. He’s an outlaw biker and a convicted felon. What was he going to do? Ask her about her feelings? She’s a troublemaking whore who threatened his mother and his wife with a gun in his domain and where his family should feel safe. If you can’t comprehend why he did what he did, maybe you should watch OWN and not FX[/quote]
okay so those are your feelings.
He beat a woman. He would be shot in my world. Jax is a fuckhead that brought her in to his world. His mother and wife threatened to gang jump her because Opie is a douche that fucked around. How the fuck do you not get this? She was threatened by multiple people… get it now? In my world, let me tell you, Jax would have been disappeared if that had happened to me.
Get it? I know, I know, you men like to blame women for seducing you. [/quote]
Your world? It isn’t YOUR world. It’s a TV show. And to most people it doesn’t matter who did what when someone threatens your family. I didn’t say anything about her seducing anyone, but I love how you threw that in at the end like I used that as my reasoning and said men like me. You don’t know me, so please don’t presume to do so. You and red herrings go together like salt and pepper. And YOUR world doesn’t impress or scare me. You don’t know MY world. We could go back and forth playing internet tough guy, but I have better things to do with my time. Have a good night.
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I wasn’t playing internet tough guy but you sure were riding the TV TOUGH GUY PONY. YOU were the one that told me to go watch OWN as if you had any idea as to who I am.
In any case, this is just a show so stop investing your masculinity in to it.
Just putting it out there, the porn star had every right to defend herself from a fucking gang beating with a gun. Jax is a loser for beating a woman.
I really will keep commenting on the show despite your comments. Stop getting your panties in a bunch.
Alrighty then. There you go. That is the black and white of it.
In any case, I did like this show but that.
BUT, did any one else notice that was Randolph Mantooth from Emergency! with the ant scene and the Russian guy! Holey Moley!
I really think that was him.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
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How exactly does that make him a hypocrite?
And on another note that would make awful tv if she shot him. Someone as important as Jax taken out by such a minor character for such a stupid reason.
You argue that she had the right to defend herself at the club. Well why doesnt Jax have the right to defend his family from her? Are you not a believer that men and women should be equal because then your opinion will hold some validity but if you’re opinion is that women are 100% equal to men then that means they don’t get special treatment. She put herself in the situation and deserved what she got
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
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How exactly does that make him a hypocrite?
And on another note that would make awful tv if she shot him. Someone as important as Jax taken out by such a minor character for such a stupid reason.
You argue that she had the right to defend herself at the club. Well why doesnt Jax have the right to defend his family from her? Are you not a believer that men and women should be equal because then your opinion will hold some validity but if you’re opinion is that women are 100% equal to men then that means they don’t get special treatment. She put herself in the situation and deserved what she got[/quote]
Opie was responsible for what happened. Why not go after Opie? Are you sure it would have made terrible TV if she had shot him? She could have shot him but not killed him. Jax didn’t have the right to go after her and beat her after the threat was gone. The porn star didn’t hunt down his family with a gun. The women blamed the girl because both of the men cheated. I hate when women blame the other woman. The porn star was about to get jumped by a bunch of women, why didn’t she have a right to defend herself? I am pretty sure Gemma would have pulled a gun on a bunch of women about to jump her.
But I get that this is TV.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[/quote]
How exactly does that make him a hypocrite?
And on another note that would make awful tv if she shot him. Someone as important as Jax taken out by such a minor character for such a stupid reason.
You argue that she had the right to defend herself at the club. Well why doesnt Jax have the right to defend his family from her? Are you not a believer that men and women should be equal because then your opinion will hold some validity but if you’re opinion is that women are 100% equal to men then that means they don’t get special treatment. She put herself in the situation and deserved what she got[/quote]
Opie was responsible for what happened. Why not go after Opie? Are you sure it would have made terrible TV if she had shot him? She could have shot him but not killed him. Jax didn’t have the right to go after her and beat her after the threat was gone. The porn star didn’t hunt down his family with a gun. The women blamed the girl because both of the men cheated. I hate when women blame the other woman. The porn star was about to get jumped by a bunch of women, why didn’t she have a right to defend herself? I am pretty sure Gemma would have pulled a gun on a bunch of women about to jump her.
But I get that this is TV. [/quote]
Opie got his. Did u miss the smack down Piney gave him?
And if you cant see the fact that the pornstar is hunting the men then I dont know what to tell u. She slept with Op because she still wanted to get revenge on Op’s girl for slapping her after she slept with Jax. She’s a cold bitch.
And u really think Opie is getting off scott free? Its not like his girl just attacked the other girl and gave Op a free pass on it. He’s gonna get his punishment but it will be more psychological and emotional.
And Jax would have been a hypocrite if he went after Op for sleeping with her cuz he did the same thing. He went after the pornstar to protect his club and family. That bitch is just psycho and if u can’t tell that then you’re prob just as crazy as she is and see her as normal cuz u consider urself to be normal.
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[/quote]
How exactly does that make him a hypocrite?
And on another note that would make awful tv if she shot him. Someone as important as Jax taken out by such a minor character for such a stupid reason.
You argue that she had the right to defend herself at the club. Well why doesnt Jax have the right to defend his family from her? Are you not a believer that men and women should be equal because then your opinion will hold some validity but if you’re opinion is that women are 100% equal to men then that means they don’t get special treatment. She put herself in the situation and deserved what she got[/quote]
Opie was responsible for what happened. Why not go after Opie? Are you sure it would have made terrible TV if she had shot him? She could have shot him but not killed him. Jax didn’t have the right to go after her and beat her after the threat was gone. The porn star didn’t hunt down his family with a gun. The women blamed the girl because both of the men cheated. I hate when women blame the other woman. The porn star was about to get jumped by a bunch of women, why didn’t she have a right to defend herself? I am pretty sure Gemma would have pulled a gun on a bunch of women about to jump her.
But I get that this is TV. [/quote]
Opie got his. Did u miss the smack down Piney gave him?
And if you cant see the fact that the pornstar is hunting the men then I dont know what to tell u. She slept with Op because she still wanted to get revenge on Op’s girl for slapping her after she slept with Jax. She’s a cold bitch.
And u really think Opie is getting off scott free? Its not like his girl just attacked the other girl and gave Op a free pass on it. He’s gonna get his punishment but it will be more psychological and emotional.
And Jax would have been a hypocrite if he went after Op for sleeping with her cuz he did the same thing. He went after the pornstar to protect his club and family. That bitch is just psycho and if u can’t tell that then you’re prob just as crazy as she is and see her as normal cuz u consider urself to be normal.[/quote]
To piggyback on what Pweedith said:
There are a million reasons Jax would beat up the porn star before going after Opie, but these are just a few:
I know exactly why he did what he did and I knew exactly what he was going to do before he did it.
How will the Cartel affect the season? Predictions on tomorrow night events.
so -
if jax is wanting to get out, and the reason why is cause of his family, don’t you think that Tara has to be gone? dead? missing?
and if ya’all think that Clay is dead at the end of the season, then who would take over the club?
Tara has to die. or get so fed up that she leaves.
and now that the club is in with the Cartel, there is no way out. the Cartel ownes them now.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
and now that the club is in with the Cartel, there is no way out. the Cartel ownes them now.[/quote]
Gimme a break.
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
and now that the club is in with the Cartel, there is no way out. the Cartel ownes them now.[/quote]
Gimme a break.[/quote]
no?
am I wrong?
Tara won’t die nor will Jax. Im thinking Clay is dead by the end of the season and Jax will become President and he will press on forward and try to institute his father’s ideology. Tara won’t leave she has too much too lose unless she becomes an informant but she wont turn.
With them working with the Cartel they might become more powerful. This is setting up for Jax to be the new king as Clay is getting to old.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]Pweedith wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I like the show but I didn’t like Jax bashing the porn girls face in on the dressing table. I would have liked it if she would have shot him. What a hypocrite.
[/quote]
How exactly does that make him a hypocrite?
And on another note that would make awful tv if she shot him. Someone as important as Jax taken out by such a minor character for such a stupid reason.
You argue that she had the right to defend herself at the club. Well why doesnt Jax have the right to defend his family from her? Are you not a believer that men and women should be equal because then your opinion will hold some validity but if you’re opinion is that women are 100% equal to men then that means they don’t get special treatment. She put herself in the situation and deserved what she got[/quote]
Opie was responsible for what happened. Why not go after Opie? Are you sure it would have made terrible TV if she had shot him? She could have shot him but not killed him. Jax didn’t have the right to go after her and beat her after the threat was gone. The porn star didn’t hunt down his family with a gun. The women blamed the girl because both of the men cheated. I hate when women blame the other woman. The porn star was about to get jumped by a bunch of women, why didn’t she have a right to defend herself? I am pretty sure Gemma would have pulled a gun on a bunch of women about to jump her.
But I get that this is TV. [/quote]
Opie got his. Did u miss the smack down Piney gave him?
And if you cant see the fact that the pornstar is hunting the men then I dont know what to tell u. She slept with Op because she still wanted to get revenge on Op’s girl for slapping her after she slept with Jax. She’s a cold bitch.
And u really think Opie is getting off scott free? Its not like his girl just attacked the other girl and gave Op a free pass on it. He’s gonna get his punishment but it will be more psychological and emotional.
And Jax would have been a hypocrite if he went after Op for sleeping with her cuz he did the same thing. He went after the pornstar to protect his club and family. That bitch is just psycho and if u can’t tell that then you’re prob just as crazy as she is and see her as normal cuz u consider urself to be normal.[/quote]
To piggyback on what Pweedith said:
There are a million reasons Jax would beat up the porn star before going after Opie, but these are just a few:
I know exactly why he did what he did and I knew exactly what he was going to do before he did it.
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Hey I just didn’t like the scene. Just because something is part of a culture doesn’t make it right.
I like the show, just didn’t like the scene.
I shouldn’t have taken the thread on such a tangent. What I was talking about probably belongs in PWI.
I see what you guys are saying but I also stand by what I am saying.
In any case,…
the ant scene was horrific!
Also in regards to racism. I live in San Diego and Black Sabbath is big here. They are an all black club. They used to be headquartered on Market until the gentrification of downtown.
Celeste
SOA brings people together. I love this show.
P.S.
Fuck True Blood and Glee. Terrible shows…