[quote]dez6485 wrote:
Mr. Roberts,
it occurs to me after my attempt above that i havent read much about diet/nutrition in regards to this product. i have made my guess about what would be beneficial/ideal, but im sure you could do much better. what would be ideal in terms of nutrition while using this product? or should it produce results with the same diet one was following before introducing the product?
thanks
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Sure thing.
Same as always, the type of diet appropriate for intended rapid muscle gain is completely different from that appropriate for intended rapid cutting.
I think I had a post on it already but to put it briefly, if gaining and if the situation is similar to when using the juice, then fat calories do not need to be as high a percentage of total calories as is the case with nutrition for the natural condition.
In the natural condition, it can be self-defeating to drop percentage of calories from fat to too low – and to some extent anything under about 30% is too low for this condition – because natural T levels will drop unless fat consumption is kept to 30-40% of total caloric intake.
But when “assisted,” that is irrelevant because natural T levels will drop anyway. While EFA’s at the usual recommended amount and maybe some olive oil in modest amount and maybe coconut fat (for example from a high-fat / low-carb coconut milk product) will continue to have their same usual benefits, fat consumption beyond this will, for each such extra for example 29 grams (one ounce) consumed, result in either having to cut back on about 65 grams of protein and/or carbs to keep fat gain equally minimal, or if that cutback is not done then each 29 grams of such extra fat will result in an extra ounce of bodyfat.
In a 2 week cycle, since such excess fat may easily be several multiples of 29 grams per day, either a lot of protein and carbs must be cutback, or it will be several pounds more bodyfat added. Or some hybrid of the two.
The situation may well be the same here. Substituting protein and carb calories for “low-quality” fat calories (fats not having special beneficial properties) may well enhance results a lot when intending to gain.
I don’t know that the situation is the same in this regard, but my guess is it probably is.
As to how much to increase calories, if the situation is the same, then a younger guy can likely increase calories by about 1000/day over his usual maintenance (younger being in the 20’s to early or maybe mid 30’s) while an older guy (40’s and up, and maybe late 30’s) may find that excessive and do better with only a 500 cal/day increase.
There is no point, when intending to gain muscle, in putting on bodyfat faster than maybe a pound per week. There may be no improvement in results from fat gain faster than this, but there is more time required afterwards to diet, time that is now thanks to having gotten too fat too fast not so good for further size or strength gains.
For the rapid-cutting situation, it is probably no different than with natural dieting except that, for same reasons as above, fat probably can be lower to good effect.
It seems reasonable, because of its properties, to try 11-T while maintaining normal maintenance calories in the hopes of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time. If fat is lost, then calories above maintenance are being provided in this process, with the excess just from fat cells rather than from food. Again the situation is probably the same as an optimal diet without the 11-T, except that again probably fat can be reduced and substituted with more protein and carbs to good benefit.
Added carbs are best provided pre and post workout, or if not a workout day, during the day rather than at night. (This is just generally true and not specific to 11-T.)
