Something I Think Everyone Should Do

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

Have you been drinking?

I just went to buildabeer.com it was empty. Quite disappointing :smiley:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

Have you been drinking?[/quote]

He was being sarcastic…adn I agree with him.

I am more worried that a thread like this would even be tolerated by the regular posters here than anything else.

Apparently, Zraw and a few others think they speak for everyone on the site.

If you have to tell people not to listen to someone, it makes you look like you can’t support what you write very well in debate.

Things like this are not what this site is about.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

Have you been drinking?[/quote]

He was being sarcastic…adn I agree with him.

I am more worried that a thread like this would even be tolerated by the regular posters here than anything else.

Apparently, Zraw and a few others think they speak for everyone on the site.

If you have to tell people not to listen to someone, it makes you look like you can’t support what you write very well in debate.

Things like this are not what this site is about.[/quote]

It depends on zraw’s intention with the post. I agree certain posters should put you on ignore for the overall quality of the forums to improve, and zraw and browndisaster are certainly included in that group.

If zraw’s intention was that everyone put you on ignore, that’s just retarded.

I could tell the first half of the above posters’ post was sarcasm…the 2nd half I had no idea what he was even getting at. Sentence construction matters, people.


Or are we past that?

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

WTF?

Legend has it that Phoenix had risen from the ashes, but in your case it seems you rose up from the asses.

Thread is weird. Shouldn’t have read.

But since I did, my thoughts:

The attention X garners (both positive and negative) is ridiculous. X is hardly the worst poster on this site (currently I think this award should go to Brown Disaster, and whoever else has been training for less than 2-3 years and has 1000+ posts.) If X isn’t giving the absolute best advice, so what? Most people aren’t. I honestly don’t even care if he’s trolling half the time, like some people think he is. If it bothers you that much (brown disaster), skip over his posts. It just shouldn’t matter that much. At the end of the day, X is just one voice among many others on this site.

All that being said, I think i sort of agree with ZRaw’s OP. It makes sense to block the people who get under your skin here. I tend to forget this sometimes, this was a good reminder.

I personally won’t be blocking X, or quoting him, as I rarely read his posts anymore anyway. Not because they’re bad, I just feel like after 10 years of reading his posts, I know what he’s about.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

Have you been drinking?[/quote]

He was being sarcastic…adn I agree with him.

I am more worried that a thread like this would even be tolerated by the regular posters here than anything else.

Apparently, Zraw and a few others think they speak for everyone on the site.

If you have to tell people not to listen to someone, it makes you look like you can’t support what you write very well in debate.

Things like this are not what this site is about.[/quote]

It depends on zraw’s intention with the post. I agree certain posters should put you on ignore for the overall quality of the forums to improve, and zraw and browndisaster are certainly included in that group.

If zraw’s intention was that everyone put you on ignore, that’s just retarded.

I could tell the first half of the above posters’ post was sarcasm…the 2nd half I had no idea what he was even getting at. Sentence construction matters, people. [/quote]

Sowwie…I did it on my phone waiting in a waiting room for some asshat general manager to get back from lunch.
Top half was sarcastic…I can say that now, now that ProfX saw it and easily figured that out.
Second half was pretty serious.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

WTF?

Legend has it that Phoenix had risen from the ashes, but in your case it seems you rose up from the asses.
[/quote]

So: You disagree that this is a waste of a thread?
You disagree that in order for someone to create a thread like this, there must be some illusion of selfworth…
You disagree that threads like these (especially when in the wrong froums) deter people from posting here
You disagree that threads like these, give people the wrong impression of what the Mods, TC, CT, and CS want this website to be about.
And finally you disagree with me joking about ProfX?

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

WTF?

Legend has it that Phoenix had risen from the ashes, but in your case it seems you rose up from the asses.
[/quote]

I wasn’t going to really post in this thread much but I don’t want Professor X to get the wrong idea.

I think infiniteshore, browndisaster, and a few others SHOULD block Professor X simply so we don’t have to deal with the bullshit every time X wants to post. It’s just plain annoying. If you cannot stand the man that much; block him. It would save him the trouble and improve the quality of posts for everybody else.

Professor X may not be perfect but none of us are. However, unlike others, some of us are able to look past that and realize that he still holds a great deal of knowledge when it comes to lifting. His advice may not be for everyone but he has still helped a lot of people learn.

And despite popular belief he does not recommend getting fat for the sake of getting bigger. When I was 18 and trying to put weight on too quickly… it was HIM who told me to slow down and try for a 1lb or 2 a month. :wink:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

WTF?

Legend has it that Phoenix had risen from the ashes, but in your case it seems you rose up from the asses.
[/quote]

So: You disagree that this is a waste of a thread?
You disagree that in order for someone to create a thread like this, there must be some illusion of selfworth…
You disagree that threads like these (especially when in the wrong froums) deter people from posting here
You disagree that threads like these, give people the wrong impression of what the Mods, TC, CT, and CS want this website to be about.
And finally you disagree with me joking about ProfX?[/quote]

I misread your post, Phoenix. My sarcasm detector was broken today.
My apologies.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.[/quote]

WTF?

Legend has it that Phoenix had risen from the ashes, but in your case it seems you rose up from the asses.
[/quote]

So: You disagree that this is a waste of a thread?
You disagree that in order for someone to create a thread like this, there must be some illusion of selfworth…
You disagree that threads like these (especially when in the wrong froums) deter people from posting here
You disagree that threads like these, give people the wrong impression of what the Mods, TC, CT, and CS want this website to be about.
And finally you disagree with me joking about ProfX?[/quote]

I misread your post, Phoenix. My sarcasm detector was broken today.
My apologies.
[/quote]

Lol no reason to apologize, its cool.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
If X isn’t giving the absolute best advice, so what? Most people aren’t.[/quote]

For some this may be an issue, others, it’s not about that at all. It has to do with the fact if ANYBODY’S advice or ideas is different than his, he dismisses it wholesale. Then when people call him on it, he drags it out for 20 pages only to try and flip it on you by saying “this is a forum to DISCUSS, and that’s what I’m doing.”

X only “discusses” when it’s a topic he agrees with. Evidenced by the numerous “Good post, yet again” replies when someone writes something that agrees with his position.

If you don’t agree and you continue to dispute, he attacks your physique or size, and if you don’t bite, he’ll call you a “kid”.

That is what most people have a problem with, IMO.

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
I wasn’t going to really post in this thread much but I don’t want Professor X to get the wrong idea.

I think infiniteshore, browndisaster, and a few others SHOULD block Professor X simply so we don’t have to deal with the bullshit every time X wants to post. It’s just plain annoying. If you cannot stand the man that much; block him. It would save him the trouble and improve the quality of posts for everybody else.

Professor X may not be perfect but none of us are. However, unlike others, some of us are able to look past that and realize that he still holds a great deal of knowledge when it comes to lifting. His advice may not be for everyone but he has still helped a lot of people learn.

And despite popular belief he does not recommend getting fat for the sake of getting bigger. When I was 18 and trying to put weight on too quickly… it was HIM who told me to slow down and try for a 1lb or 2 a month. ;)[/quote]

I agree with you…but that again comes down to personal responsibility. Telling people what to do is ridiculous. Threads are not turning to shit because I am trolling them. They are turning to shit because the same people do nothing but jump into threads to throw insults and call me a troll.

That is what needs to change.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
I wasn’t going to really post in this thread much but I don’t want Professor X to get the wrong idea.

I think infiniteshore, browndisaster, and a few others SHOULD block Professor X simply so we don’t have to deal with the bullshit every time X wants to post. It’s just plain annoying. If you cannot stand the man that much; block him. It would save him the trouble and improve the quality of posts for everybody else.

Professor X may not be perfect but none of us are. However, unlike others, some of us are able to look past that and realize that he still holds a great deal of knowledge when it comes to lifting. His advice may not be for everyone but he has still helped a lot of people learn.

And despite popular belief he does not recommend getting fat for the sake of getting bigger. When I was 18 and trying to put weight on too quickly… it was HIM who told me to slow down and try for a 1lb or 2 a month. ;)[/quote]

I agree with you…but that again comes down to personal responsibility. Telling people what to do is ridiculous. Threads are not turning to shit because I am trolling them. They are turning to shit because the same people do nothing but jump into threads to throw insults and call me a troll.

That is what needs to change.[/quote]

I agree that people with nothing else to say need to quit, it just isn’t necessary. But it’s definitely NOT the only thing that need to change.

See above.

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
If X isn’t giving the absolute best advice, so what? Most people aren’t.[/quote]

For some this may be an issue, others, it’s not about that at all. It has to do with the fact if ANYBODY’S advice or ideas is different than his, he dismisses it wholesale. Then when people call him on it, he drags it out for 20 pages only to try and flip it on you by saying “this is a forum to DISCUSS, and that’s what I’m doing.”

X only “discusses” when it’s a topic he agrees with. Evidenced by the numerous “Good post, yet again” replies when someone writes something that agrees with his position.

If you don’t agree and you continue to dispute, he attacks your physique or size, and if you don’t bite, he’ll call you a “kid”.

That is what most people have a problem with, IMO.

[/quote]

I know that’s what happens, I’ve seen it. But why do people feel the need to be validated by X? As I said in my original post, I agree with Zraw that the people who care so much when X tells them they’re wrong should just put him on ignore. If I post something and X disagrees without considering my opinion might be valid… so what? I don’t need to convince him of anything. I’ve got my life, he’s got his. He’s entitled to his opinion. It’s like people have such thin skin around here.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
If X isn’t giving the absolute best advice, so what? Most people aren’t.[/quote]

For some this may be an issue, others, it’s not about that at all. It has to do with the fact if ANYBODY’S advice or ideas is different than his, he dismisses it wholesale. Then when people call him on it, he drags it out for 20 pages only to try and flip it on you by saying “this is a forum to DISCUSS, and that’s what I’m doing.”

X only “discusses” when it’s a topic he agrees with. Evidenced by the numerous “Good post, yet again” replies when someone writes something that agrees with his position.

If you don’t agree and you continue to dispute, he attacks your physique or size, and if you don’t bite, he’ll call you a “kid”.

That is what most people have a problem with, IMO.

[/quote]

I know that’s what happens, I’ve seen it. But why do people feel the need to be validated by X? As I said in my original post, I agree with Zraw that the people who care so much when X tells them they’re wrong should just put him on ignore. If I post something and X disagrees without considering my opinion might be valid… so what? I don’t need to convince him of anything. I’ve got my life, he’s got his. He’s entitled to his opinion. It’s like people have such thin skin around here.[/quote]

WTF? Validation? I don’t give a crap about him validating anything. It’s the fact that a discussion of differing opinions cannot be had on an intelligent, civil level if X gets involved and has an opinion one way or another. It’s not a “discussion”. It’s “your wrong cause I’m bigger than you”.

I don’t know how many times he’s bitched about people “messing up the forum”. When he pulls what I outlined above, that’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s a hypocrite. He get’s called on it and won’t address it, resorting to the personal attack to divert. Then bitches if anything personal is said about him.

Validation. Whatever.

If it bothers someone that their idea or advice gets dismissed wholesale (your words), then it’s a validation issue. I’m not trying to be insulting (I’ve read like 2 of your posts so I don’t know if you’ve gotten into it with X before or not), I’m just saying that if it bothers a person that X doesn’t respond the way they’d prefer, civil or not, then it’s on that person to get over it and be confident enough in their own position to not let an internet persona bother them. I don’t think I’m being unreasonable.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Or are we past that?[/quote]
LOL!