Something I Think Everyone Should Do

I don’t think X is the only ‘problem’. Sometimes you get really weird advice here by guys with “harddisk full of pdf’s” or then just “I know more than your wiki knowledge”, and makes a discussion pointless when they say “I know 100x more than you/lift 100x more than you/I am better than you/I am the man, your just a kid/I have blabla certificate in personal training so I know everything”.

Examples I’ve encountered during past 2 months:

  1. “Drinking 10-12 diet soda per day is recommended because I drink it and I am totally fine”

  2. “Drinking vodka is better than beer since you get drunk with less calories” Who wants to get drunk as bb?

  3. “If you wanna train your chest hard you should fatigue your shoulders and triceps before benchpress” Coming from a guy who has never done it, and misunderstood prefatigument, but insisted for 28pages.

  4. “If you eat 5000kcal a day you should eat 20omega pills per day to stay health”, "I am an expert and have 2 harddisks full of pdf’s, you are stupid"etc…

  5. “creatine helps you the same way as carbohydrate”,“you’re just a wikipedia quoter” Obviously no when creatinephosphate is a storage for phosphate and glucose is broken down to form new ATP. While as making creatinphosphate uses ATP, so it can give phosphate back to ADP to turn to ATP during intense exercise.

  6. “Dont eat carbohydrates, we can live healthily just by fat and protein, humans are complex devices”,“I am a phycisit I take accurate measurements” “you’re just kid, I am working, sonny”
    Seriously, no need to eat carbs?

Typical scenario:
A. You get the best shoulder exercise by training calf raises
B(me). What the f*** ?
A. I am an expert, I have 2 harddisk full of pdf’s, you have just wikipediaknowledge, I have personal training degree in douchebaggery from Muscle Fitness, go away idiot kid.

does that make you want to keep posting ?

I agree I can be harsh myself too at times, but I only react like that when people give straightout weird and bad advice like for example not eating carbs at all. But this general ‘know-it-all’ ego attitude just makes one not want to post here anymore.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would never put him on ignore, too fucking entertaining. I used to let him get under my skin, but now i just think he is funny and seeing him get ganged up on finally after so many years of getting away with being a complete dick is refreshing.

this place is definitely more interesting with him here.

oh, and BTW, i do not believe he talks to people in real life in person the way he does in here, if he did, trust me, that pretty-boy face of his would be messed up by now, and in need of some of his own dental work.

i honestly think he likes to stir things up and revels in the pissing contests that he always seems to be part of.

edit: even though he might put on that a thread like this just about him is childish and rubbish, trust me, he love the fact that he draws this much attention. [/quote]

On a serious note, 100% this^^

I think PX is legit trolling 50% of the time. I think he says things on purpose that he knows will get a rise out of people and then goes from there. The guy is very entertaining though.

Sure, some threads would be more informative of he wasn’t around but things would be a lot more boring as well.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would never put him on ignore, too fucking entertaining. I used to let him get under my skin, but now i just think he is funny and seeing him get ganged up on finally after so many years of getting away with being a complete dick is refreshing.

this place is definitely more interesting with him here.

oh, and BTW, i do not believe he talks to people in real life in person the way he does in here, if he did, trust me, that pretty-boy face of his would be messed up by now, and in need of some of his own dental work.

i honestly think he likes to stir things up and revels in the pissing contests that he always seems to be part of.

edit: even though he might put on that a thread like this just about him is childish and rubbish, trust me, he love the fact that he draws this much attention. [/quote]

On a serious note, 100% this^^

I think PX is legit trolling 50% of the time. I think he says things on purpose that he knows will get a rise out of people and then goes from there. The guy is very entertaining though.

Sure, some threads would be more informative of he wasn’t around but things would be a lot more boring as well.[/quote]

yep. no need getting upset with him anymore, he is pretty much irrevelant. there was a time when he was a fairly big fish in a small pond here, but this sites membership has grown, there are many many here way more advanced in their physique and training than him now.

he has something to offer the newbs, especially his dogma of eating enough and just plain training as heavy and hard as possible, not getting caught up in the minutia of diet and the program of the week, etc.

but other than that, he has nothing really to offer.

i am on this site pretty much just to pass time when i am bored, and there a few guys i am friendly in the old fart forum that i follow, but other than that, this is just mindless entertainment and he provides very entertaining threads.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would never put him on ignore, too fucking entertaining. I used to let him get under my skin, but now i just think he is funny and seeing him get ganged up on finally after so many years of getting away with being a complete dick is refreshing.

this place is definitely more interesting with him here.

oh, and BTW, i do not believe he talks to people in real life in person the way he does in here, if he did, trust me, that pretty-boy face of his would be messed up by now, and in need of some of his own dental work.

i honestly think he likes to stir things up and revels in the pissing contests that he always seems to be part of.

edit: even though he might put on that a thread like this just about him is childish and rubbish, trust me, he love the fact that he draws this much attention. [/quote]

On a serious note, 100% this^^

I think PX is legit trolling 50% of the time. I think he says things on purpose that he knows will get a rise out of people and then goes from there. The guy is very entertaining though.

Sure, some threads would be more informative of he wasn’t around but things would be a lot more boring as well.[/quote]

I always were under the impression that he wasn’t trolling but actually serious. I would agree that he clearly seems to love the attention he gets, similar to a troll. However, an actual troll isn’t serious and just takes the piss for his own amusement. I don’t see X doing that. Though it would be very funny if he would come out and say that he was just trolling all of us hard.

However, I don’t think his presence helps the quality of this forum. I would rather see less of X’s bullshit sagas and more quality threads. Leave the mindless entertainment to GAL or other places. And there are only so many ways to make fun of him anyway.

Btw, where the hell is he anyway? Letting time heal the wounds?

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
However, I don’t think his presence helps the quality of this forum. I would rather see less of X’s bullshit sagas and more quality threads. Leave the mindless entertainment to GAL or other places. And there are only so many ways to make fun of him anyway.

Btw, where the hell is he anyway? Letting time heal the wounds? [/quote]

at least half of your posts must be about professor X

weirdo

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would never put him on ignore, too fucking entertaining. I used to let him get under my skin, but now i just think he is funny and seeing him get ganged up on finally after so many years of getting away with being a complete dick is refreshing.

this place is definitely more interesting with him here.

oh, and BTW, i do not believe he talks to people in real life in person the way he does in here, if he did, trust me, that pretty-boy face of his would be messed up by now, and in need of some of his own dental work.

i honestly think he likes to stir things up and revels in the pissing contests that he always seems to be part of.

edit: even though he might put on that a thread like this just about him is childish and rubbish, trust me, he love the fact that he draws this much attention. [/quote]

On a serious note, 100% this^^

I think PX is legit trolling 50% of the time. I think he says things on purpose that he knows will get a rise out of people and then goes from there. The guy is very entertaining though.

Sure, some threads would be more informative of he wasn’t around but things would be a lot more boring as well.[/quote]

I always were under the impression that he wasn’t trolling but actually serious. I would agree that he clearly seems to love the attention he gets, similar to a troll. However, an actual troll isn’t serious and just takes the piss for his own amusement. I don’t see X doing that. Though it would be very funny if he would come out and say that he was just trolling all of us hard.

However, I don’t think his presence helps the quality of this forum. I would rather see less of X’s bullshit sagas and more quality threads. Leave the mindless entertainment to GAL or other places. And there are only so many ways to make fun of him anyway.

Btw, where the hell is he anyway? Letting time heal the wounds? [/quote]

I think he said he would be gone much of the week. I’m willing to bet that the tone of the BB forum completely changes while he is gone.

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
But some black guy in the hood can… and also play ball better than MJ… you must not have been to the hood.[/quote]

I think that thread was my all time favorite back and forth with X.

A close second was when I asked him roughly how much muscle a non underdeveloped full grown adult could hypothetically gain and he said he couldn’t give me an answer because he is a doctor and his words carry weight and actually mean something.[/quote]

So hard to pick one! I would go with tbe thread cephalic carnage innocently started regarding px’s peeformance at hq. And also his performamce there in general. Jaw dropping reality tv.[/quote]

Link?

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
However, I don’t think his presence helps the quality of this forum. I would rather see less of X’s bullshit sagas and more quality threads. Leave the mindless entertainment to GAL or other places. And there are only so many ways to make fun of him anyway.

Btw, where the hell is he anyway? Letting time heal the wounds? [/quote]

at least half of your posts must be about professor X

weirdo
[/quote]

I highly doubt it, especially since I’m mainly on here to maintain my training log.

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I regret nothing. I trolled with a cause and became the dark night of TNation.

[quote]Zerpp wrote:
this thread is gold. almost as funny as the misc[/quote]
hahahahahah, some of these kids couldn’t last a day in the misc
[/quote]

LOL Dark Knight of T-Nation? GTFO[/quote]
not sure y so srs

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i would never put him on ignore, too fucking entertaining. I used to let him get under my skin, but now i just think he is funny and seeing him get ganged up on finally after so many years of getting away with being a complete dick is refreshing.

this place is definitely more interesting with him here.

oh, and BTW, i do not believe he talks to people in real life in person the way he does in here, if he did, trust me, that pretty-boy face of his would be messed up by now, and in need of some of his own dental work.

i honestly think he likes to stir things up and revels in the pissing contests that he always seems to be part of.

edit: even though he might put on that a thread like this just about him is childish and rubbish, trust me, he love the fact that he draws this much attention. [/quote]

On a serious note, 100% this^^

I think PX is legit trolling 50% of the time. I think he says things on purpose that he knows will get a rise out of people and then goes from there. The guy is very entertaining though.

Sure, some threads would be more informative of he wasn’t around but things would be a lot more boring as well.[/quote]

I always were under the impression that he wasn’t trolling but actually serious. I would agree that he clearly seems to love the attention he gets, similar to a troll. However, an actual troll isn’t serious and just takes the piss for his own amusement. I don’t see X doing that. Though it would be very funny if he would come out and say that he was just trolling all of us hard.

However, I don’t think his presence helps the quality of this forum. I would rather see less of X’s bullshit sagas and more quality threads. Leave the mindless entertainment to GAL or other places. And there are only so many ways to make fun of him anyway.

Btw, where the hell is he anyway? Letting time heal the wounds? [/quote]

I think he said he would be gone much of the week. I’m willing to bet that the tone of the BB forum completely changes while he is gone.[/quote]

Not if everyone keeps talking about him!! You’re all giving him exactly what he wants… ATTENTION! : b

This has nothing to do with bodybuilding and is taking up space in the bodybuilding forum. This belongs in get a life, since this has no relevance to bodybuilding. You are doing a disservice to this site by advertising such pettiness in one of the most viewed sections of the forum.

If I didn’t belong here previously, this thread would keep me away from this forum. I understand that you do not like someone but to air out your business makes you look like little “female dogs.” I would understand such a thread on a forum populated by 15 year olds but you are grown men, act like it.

[quote]browndisaster wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I regret nothing. I trolled with a cause and became the dark night of TNation.

[quote]Zerpp wrote:
this thread is gold. almost as funny as the misc[/quote]
hahahahahah, some of these kids couldn’t last a day in the misc
[/quote]

LOL Dark Knight of T-Nation? GTFO[/quote]
not sure y so srs[/quote]

I don’t understand? My log is there for people to see… u tryna embarrass me or something?

[quote]VD90 wrote:
This has nothing to do with bodybuilding and is taking up space in the bodybuilding forum. This belongs in get a life, since this has no relevance to bodybuilding. You are doing a disservice to this site by advertising such pettiness in one of the most viewed sections of the forum.

If I didn’t belong here previously, this thread would keep me away from this forum. I understand that you do not like someone but to air out your business makes you look like little “female dogs.” I would understand such a thread on a forum populated by 15 year olds but you are grown men, act like it.[/quote]
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Best post.

Some of these guys look and sound threatened.

If you have to tell people not to listen to someone, you look pretty weak.

People should have the right to listen and choose for themselves. This mob witch hunt is petty and feminine.

I haven’t logged in since Saturday morning and you all actually let this pathetic cry for attention reach 4 pages.

Also, yes, there is nothing written here I wouldn’t say in real life. The only thing that may change is less use of profanity.

I have met too many other posters here for that to be questioned.

If you feel a need to think for other people and TELL them who to listen to, you lose that much more credibility yourself.

Zraw, most of your replies to me are straight up insults and lack any useful value or information. Let it rest. Spend your time helping others instead of telling them who to listen to. If you can support what you believe, people can tell for themselves.

You were not insulted…so choose to elevate your own maturity level.

PX is the bodybuilding authority that T-Nation deserves, but not the bodybuilding authority T-Nation needs right now, so we’ll hunt him, because he can take it, he’s not the hero, he’s our very vocal guardian, our watchful protecter, a dark knight…

I know I’m new here but I thought this was for talking about lifting iron, DOMS and protein.

If I wanted this sort of bullshit I would go talk to the bro’s curling in the squat rack.

Lost the respect I had for some people from their childish pathetic bitching in this thread.

I have learned a lot from reading a lot of peoples posts and do you know what I do if I don’t agree with them. I go read something else. Don’t cry about it. This is meant to be TNATION - GROW SOME BALLS PLEASE

[quote]Gumbi wrote:
I know I’m new here but I thought this was for talking about lifting iron, DOMS and protein.

If I wanted this sort of bullshit I would go talk to the bro’s curling in the squat rack.

Lost the respect I had for some people from their childish pathetic bitching in this thread.

I have learned a lot from reading a lot of peoples posts and do you know what I do if I don’t agree with them. I go read something else. Don’t cry about it. This is meant to be TNATION - GROW SOME BALLS PLEASE[/quote]
QFT

[quote]Gumbi wrote:
I know I’m new here but I thought this was for talking about lifting iron, DOMS and protein.

If I wanted this sort of bullshit I would go talk to the bro’s curling in the squat rack.

Lost the respect I had for some people from their childish pathetic bitching in this thread.

I have learned a lot from reading a lot of peoples posts and do you know what I do if I don’t agree with them. I go read something else. Don’t cry about it. This is meant to be TNATION - GROW SOME BALLS PLEASE[/quote]

TRUTH.

I went to the gym today and worked my ass off. I come here to discuss that. No one is running me off the forum…and many of you are losing any respect you did have for the attempt.

[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
PX is the bodybuilding authority that T-Nation deserves, but not the bodybuilding authority T-Nation needs right now, so we’ll hunt him, because he can take it, he’s not the hero, he’s our very vocal guardian, our watchful protecter, a dark knight…[/quote]

LMAO

Seriously though, if that’s the authority this site deserves, maybe we should re-evaluate what sort of reputation we’ve garnered. I hold a deep love for T-Nation as I’ve been here so long, and have always benefited from the articles, discussions with like minded, well versed folks, and certainly done my best to share my own experiences.

It does bother me quite a bit when I see the quality of our forums here badmouthed on other web sites. Sadly though, there have been many accomplished, knowledgeable, and friendly folks who have come through these forums over the years who no longer contribute.

This site has quite a variety of sub-forums, and for people who have actually accomplished things in bodybuilding, or to have worked as coaches, have CSCS certs or kinesiology degrees and the like, to be treated rudely, and made to feel like they are completely incorrect in the ‘Bodybuilding’ forum by people who have neither done, nor earned any of that is just ridiculous.

While I certainly won’t say that the in-fighting and bickering is a good thing either, I do understand the attitude towards what seems to have become a regular occurrence with a particular member (whether trolling, or true disillusion, it changes naught).

It rightfully doesn’t make me want to chime in as much when I simply give examples of IFBB Pros who made well publicized use of certain training techniques as examples and discuss how every accepted technique Pros employ isn’t usually reduced to an article, only to have a rude reply as to my definition of the word ‘most’.

(On the other hand, you’ve got guys like BlueCollarTr8n, who disagreed with me, BUT maintained a respectful, friendly tone. The man is all class in my book).

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

It rightfully doesn’t make me want to chime in as much when I simply give examples of IFBB Pros who made well publicized use of certain training techniques as examples and discuss how every accepted technique Pros employ isn’t usually reduced to an article, only to have a rude reply as to my definition of the word ‘most’.

(On the other hand, you’ve got guys like BlueCollarTr8n, who disagreed with me, BUT maintained a respectful, friendly tone. The man is all class in my book).

S[/quote]

I wasn’t rude to you and haven’t been. I haven’t been rude to the person who started this thread until he attacks me.

In fact, all I did was correct on teh use of the term “theory” in science the same way you corrected me as far as “pre-fatigue”.

Perception is the issue here. Not everyone agrees with you or the person who started this thread about me…so let the people decide.

It looks like they did.

People just starting this forum are saying this thread was an insult to the site…not that I am an insult to this site.

get over it…everyone doesn’t agree with you…and everyone has a right to voice a valid opinion as long as it furthers the education and value of this site.

I am not trolling this forum…and the posts I have written don’t deserve to be treated like they serve no use or value.

If you want to debate something I wrote, do so.

FINALLY just what this BB forum needed. I deff come here for the entertainment part of it and deff not the education part of it.

FUCK ProfessorX dudes a fraud…I heard somewhere that he wasn’t even a professor, and his names like Albert or Carl or something that doesn’t even start with the letter X. Like wtf gtfo with your misrepresentation.

Furthermore I took his advice when I was a young pup…all I did was eat cheeseburgers because he said fuck “clean bulking” now I’m 250+ with 14" arms…dude screwed me over big time.

EDIT: I also wanted to say how I think this is a great representation of T-Nation! I mean imagine this dude (pro, veteran gym rat, pro athlete, etc) comes to this website and wants to get a better understand of what its about…
THANK FUCKING GOD THAT WHEN HE GETS TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FORUMS ON THIS SITE HE GETS TO LEARN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT FUCKING ZRAW THINKS IS!!! AND GETS MORE OF AN INSIGHT ON THE BITCH FIGHT HE’S HAVING WITH PROFESSORX…back to buildabeer.com he goes.