HELLO!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
HELLO![/quote]
LOL, I forgot about that avatar.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
HELLO![/quote]
LOL, I forgot about that avatar.[/quote]
Yeah, I figured I’d join in the dick-waving.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
HELLO![/quote]
I didn’t know dwarves had kickstands.
I think that it is hilarious that people are boycotting or holding out with their “training knowledge” or presence or what ever it is that makes them feel special.
No one is that special. If they are, then they are high level professional trainers and coaches, in which case it would be silly to give away your cash cow on the web when you are supposed to be making a living off of it.
That little gem of reasoning was given to me by a guy who actually does coach and train top level athletes who compete at the Olympics and various professional sports teams, and believe me, he gives not a single fuck about what anybody on this site has to say about anything. Nor do any of his peers.
The gifs and meme responses are awesome though. If IH or Derek ever stop those I’m gonna have to leave too.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
HELLO![/quote]
LMFAO!!
Copied and saved.
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
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I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
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I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
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[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders?
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Cuz I’m not a bodybuilder ya dingus! I would be taking his advice on powerlifting rofl.
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]
Classic Prof X “debating” tactics… He will:
- Ignore what was actually written.
- Question the reading comprehension of anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
- Go off on a rant while saying “some of you/many here/etc…” in order to avoid directly addressing anyone specific.
- Repeatedly quote the few who agree with him as proof that he is correct and say “good post” & “great points.”
- Possible talk about his guns some more and how he would say all this stuff to your face, reaffirming how tough he is IRL.
- Tell people to stop quoting Internet gurus and instead suggest that they start listening to “swole” NPC competitors who lift at their gym, eat McDonalds and play basketball all day.
- Talk about his free Vacation to Colorado.
- Call posters “son, kid and guy” in an attempt to patronize them.
- Tell people to listen to swole guys at the gym who look better than you do but ignores that advice when guys like Stu, Zraw, Austin, BlueCollarTrain, Waylander disagree with him.
- Tell people to “try harder” and that they’re “not very good at this.” Like people actually care.
- Repeat steps 1-10 but not in that order.
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Now I don’t usually get involved in these threads, but as a spectator of these forums for the past 6-7 years, it is scary how true the above quoted post is, lol.
Carry on.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]
Classic Prof X “debating” tactics… He will:
- Ignore what was actually written.
- Question the reading comprehension of anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
- Go off on a rant while saying “some of you/many here/etc…” in order to avoid directly addressing anyone specific.
- Repeatedly quote the few who agree with him as proof that he is correct and say “good post” & “great points.”
- Possible talk about his guns some more and how he would say all this stuff to your face, reaffirming how tough he is IRL.
- Tell people to stop quoting Internet gurus and instead suggest that they start listening to “swole” NPC competitors who lift at their gym, eat McDonalds and play basketball all day.
- Talk about his free Vacation to Colorado.
- Call posters “son, kid and guy” in an attempt to patronize them.
- Tell people to listen to swole guys at the gym who look better than you do but ignores that advice when guys like Stu, Zraw, Austin, BlueCollarTrain, Waylander disagree with him.
- Tell people to “try harder” and that they’re “not very good at this.” Like people actually care.
- Repeat steps 1-10 but not in that order.
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Now I don’t usually get involved in these threads, but as a spectator of these forums for the past 6-7 years, it is scary how true the above quoted post is, lol.
Carry on.[/quote]
I don’t know.
There is no mention of “free vacation to Colorado” in this thread.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]
Classic Prof X “debating” tactics… He will:
- Ignore what was actually written.
- Question the reading comprehension of anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
- Go off on a rant while saying “some of you/many here/etc…” in order to avoid directly addressing anyone specific.
- Repeatedly quote the few who agree with him as proof that he is correct and say “good post” & “great points.”
- Possible talk about his guns some more and how he would say all this stuff to your face, reaffirming how tough he is IRL.
- Tell people to stop quoting Internet gurus and instead suggest that they start listening to “swole” NPC competitors who lift at their gym, eat McDonalds and play basketball all day.
- Talk about his free Vacation to Colorado.
- Call posters “son, kid and guy” in an attempt to patronize them.
- Tell people to listen to swole guys at the gym who look better than you do but ignores that advice when guys like Stu, Zraw, Austin, BlueCollarTrain, Waylander disagree with him.
- Tell people to “try harder” and that they’re “not very good at this.” Like people actually care.
- Repeat steps 1-10 but not in that order.
[/quote][/quote]
Now I don’t usually get involved in these threads, but as a spectator of these forums for the past 6-7 years, it is scary how true the above quoted post is, lol.
Carry on.[/quote]
I don’t know.
There is no mention of “free vacation to Colorado” in this thread. [/quote]
Huaehuaehuae :)))
We have many more pages to go, and they will NOT be filled with memes!
You hear me IH?!?!
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
[/quote]
how is x’s advice anything special?
eat more than you need to grow, train all body parts directly and be consistent. not exactly ground breaking.
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
[/quote]
how is x’s advice anything special?
eat more than you need to grow, train all body parts directly and be consistent. not exactly ground breaking.[/quote]
It’s his special way of giving advice. I mean… who can say go eat a cheeseburger like X!?
And he really has gone into more detail than that especially about his journey to get where he is now.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
[/quote]
how is x’s advice anything special?
eat more than you need to grow, train all body parts directly and be consistent. not exactly ground breaking.[/quote]
It’s his special way of giving advice. I mean… who can say go eat a cheeseburger like X!?
And he really has gone into more detail than that especially about his journey to get where he is now. [/quote]
i understand that. but like a few others have said X is just a big guy who lifts weights, thats it. hes never competed and hasnt even been bellow 15% bodyfat for quiet a long time.
dont get me wrong he is still bigger than me… but i just dont get why he treated as some guru of all things bodybuilding on this website. especially when you have/had alot more knowledgable experienced posters than him.
this may sound like me being a dick and i dont mean it to. but when the best bodybuilders this site has or had, have all had a problem with profX. stu, zraw, bonez, way and even an ifbb pro who states he is one of the reasons that he doesnt post. why is he still held in such a high regard around here?
again im not saying this out of spite or jealousy.
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
[/quote]
how is x’s advice anything special?
eat more than you need to grow, train all body parts directly and be consistent. not exactly ground breaking.[/quote]
Just want to make sure you caught the part where you were a fool for thinking I was looking for bodybuilding advice.
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
The number of highly knowledgeable people that are just not posting on this site because of all this PX crap is higher than you think… and some of the guys im refering to are VERY accomplished… as in : would make me look like crap
[/quote]
I feel like this deserves a counter-point:
[quote]George Leeman wrote:
However, T-Nation is where I met a poster called Professor X. To this day he has done more to help my progress than any other source of knowledge. A huge guy who preached about multiple year bulks, getting super strong, and to not try to cut every time you see a little fat gain.
[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d take babyslayer over any bodybuilder. That’s just personal preference of course. But still, I think that’s evidence enough that Prof. X can’t be THAT bad right?[/quote]
babyslayer is a powerlifter, why take his advice on bodybulding over someone like zraw or stu 2 guys who are successful bodybuilders? [/quote]
Even as a powerlifter he has built a better physique than the vast majority of people on this forum. The amount of progress he made in a few short years was incredible, and as the quote I supplied illustrates, he give a lot of credit to X for that. That seems to be conveniently ignored by all those who insist X provides no useful advice.
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Looks like this thread ended like I thought it would.
Thank God T-Nation didn’t allow the estrogen to win.
Can’t believe this thread is still going.
The amount of posts this has had compared to actual advise threads is depressing.
Heres dancing Obama to close it off.
You guys are nuts to entertain the same insanely tired arguments over and over again. It’s wild how much of the same shit gets repeated ad naseum - should just cut and paste responses from old threads because they are word for word the same thing.
In the end, just forget it and move on. It’s so easy to get pulled into the same arguments and before you know it you have a 50 page thread of nothing! There is no way to change someone’s behavior - if you don’t like it, you have to ignore it - it’s just the only way to not be miserable interacting here, and after awhile, you’re just perpetuating the same shit. And I have been more than guilty of that in the past, so I speak not from my high horse, but just a place of reason - it’s just not worth it in the end, and it never ends, or accomplishes anything.
You know what’s cool about banging your head against a brick wall? It feels SO good when you stop!! ; )