Squats are the best for lower body ? If this holds true then is it also true that your lower body mass defines how much upper body mass you can get ??
If the above is true, is it possible to do what i see in Dan Johns articles and put a Squat version 1st on every Day.
Is it THAT much of a mass builder ???
If so is that why the HIT program has legs 1st ??
I just am baffled does your lower body account for THAT much of your growth???
If so then even more so why do people just do legs once a WEEK, i made in the near 7 months i have been weight lifting most of my gains on my legs like i can only still bench 70kg for 8 but my squat is 95kg for 8.
Does that mean i am able to grow more, or does squatting and lower body work induce more muscle on top.
Or WTF exactly is it ???
Sorry if this is confusing im really confused so kinda runs through it.
Heres hoping for some answers :))
[quote]usertaken wrote:
Ok just a few questions to ask about.
Squats are the best for lower body ? If this holds true then is it also true that your lower body mass defines how much upper body mass you can get ??
If the above is true, is it possible to do what i see in Dan Johns articles and put a Squat version 1st on every Day.
Is it THAT much of a mass builder ???
If so is that why the HIT program has legs 1st ??
I just am baffled does your lower body account for THAT much of your growth???
If so then even more so why do people just do legs once a WEEK, i made in the near 7 months i have been weight lifting most of my gains on my legs like i can only still bench 70kg for 8 but my squat is 95kg for 8.
Does that mean i am able to grow more, or does squatting and lower body work induce more muscle on top.
Or WTF exactly is it ???
Sorry if this is confusing im really confused so kinda runs through it.
Heres hoping for some answers :))[/quote]
Squats tend to work a large portion of your body, not just your legs.
A lot of your testosterone is stored in your legs and that accounts for the mass gains.
I start every workout with two exercises that are either deadlift, squat, or clean.
Think of squats as potentiators of upper body strength and muscle. They enhance progress, but don’t do anything by themselves. You still have to work your upper body.
So you are saying that incorparating a lower body compound excercise so ?
Any version of a DL or a Squat will do ?
If thats it cheers for the advice and whoever changed my topic to a better name
Man, you will get a buttload of answers from guys and gals with all types of philosophies and experience.
IMO-
HIT is fine and dandy for beginners but it is hard to advance any body area without multiple sets. Also HIT becomes pretty stale pretty quick
Squats (back squats with barbell) are not simply lower body. BB Squats are a “full” body push. You are very much so incorprating a great deal of upper body strength on higher loads.
[quote]usertaken wrote:
Ok just a few questions to ask about.
Squats are the best for lower body ? If this holds true then is it also true that your lower body mass defines how much upper body mass you can get ??
If the above is true, is it possible to do what i see in Dan Johns articles and put a Squat version 1st on every Day.
Is it THAT much of a mass builder ???
If so is that why the HIT program has legs 1st ??
I just am baffled does your lower body account for THAT much of your growth???
If so then even more so why do people just do legs once a WEEK, i made in the near 7 months i have been weight lifting most of my gains on my legs like i can only still bench 70kg for 8 but my squat is 95kg for 8.
Does that mean i am able to grow more, or does squatting and lower body work induce more muscle on top.
Or WTF exactly is it ???
Sorry if this is confusing im really confused so kinda runs through it.
Heres hoping for some answers :))[/quote]
I seem to remember squats utilizing 67% of your body’s overall muscle. That’s a lot of muscle. The more muscle you recruit the easier it is to build muscle because you can do heavier movements.
Also your body will try to stay proportional(as some trainers believe), so the bigger you lower body, the eaier it will be to put muscle on top. I see guys in the gym blasting their bi’s and tri’s 3 days per week. I don’t do any iso’s for my arms, and my arms are proportionally bigger cuz they don’t do any lower body work(at all). The bike doesn’t count as a leg workout! Lol.
I think some people say that when the biggest muscles get worked, your body releases more growth hormone, which can be beneficial for muscle growth. Doing legs first may release more GH for the rest of your workout, perhaps?
Cheers for the answers.
So it IS advisable to put how many sets ?
I mean for those who do splits, is it feesable to do a leg day then involve the legs again for the other days ??
67% jeez didn’t know it was THAT high now i love my squats even more !
[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
I think some people say that when the biggest muscles get worked, your body releases more growth hormone, which can be beneficial for muscle growth. Doing legs first may release more GH for the rest of your workout, perhaps?[/quote]
Since your legs are the largest muscles in your body, they are also the biggest testosterone and GH producers. Thus, as they grow they produce more testosterone and GH.
Er by leg i presume we are taking about the quad only for this production of GH and test ???
So does this production confine itself to the leg area or does it follow where the muscle tears are ???
I have never seen programs with legs 1st in all… why is this ??
Another point. The glutes are the largest muscles in the body, not the quads. Anything that works the glutes to a large extent (deadlifts, lunges, GHRs) can have a noticeable impact in test and GH release.
[quote]usertaken wrote:
Cheers for the answers.
So it IS advisable to put how many sets ?
I mean for those who do splits, is it fesable to do a leg day then involve the legs again for the other days ??
67% jeez didn’t know it was THAT high now i love my squats even more ![/quote]
I would be careful with incorporating leg days on other days. Not that it cannot be done; but when performing multiple sets; rest becomes the time when muscle growth occurs.
From a metabolic stand point, protein synthesis (muscle growth) occurs in 48 to 72 hours. Thus, one might conclude that you could work each muscle group every 48 to 72 hours; however, when performing a high volume program of multiple sets, your bodys energy stores can be depleted even when alternating body parts.
With regard to number of sets, this is highly subjective and dependent on your degree of training. As a general rule for multiple set routines, 3 sets works for most people, but if you have high level of training experience, you could up this to 5 to 6 sets.
Would be curious as to your training split as this would give more insight to your workout. What is your split?
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Another point. The glutes are the largest muscles in the body, not the quads. Anything that works the glutes to a large extent (deadlifts, lunges, GHRs) can have a noticeable impact in test and GH release.[/quote]
[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Another point. The glutes are the largest muscles in the body, not the quads. Anything that works the glutes to a large extent (deadlifts, lunges, GHRs) can have a noticeable impact in test and GH release.
[quote]hYperTrOphY_07 wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Another point. The glutes are the largest muscles in the body, not the quads. Anything that works the glutes to a large extent (deadlifts, lunges, GHRs) can have a noticeable impact in test and GH release.
You must have a huge ass, then.
LOL, I was thinking the same thing. [/quote]
I hope you were just joking coz I’m serious, but yeah I have a big ass.
i thought it was that testosterone is when the muscles are worked but since you have the biggest muscles in your lower body thats what releases the testosterone thus stimulating muscle growth in the entire body.
If you want to gain weight you need to squat. Look at the bodybuilding shows for people in wheelchairs. I don’t want to take anything away from those guys but the truth is they’re usually smaller because they don’t get the benefits of leg work. I know there are a lot of other factors at play and that they still get pretty jacked regardless but it’s still a point worth making.
