Soldiers Having Fun

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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So easy to hide behind your keyboard, and talk smack. How you would do this and that bla bla bla… I?m Billy bad ass?. all these damn internet chumps with opinions.

A few questions for anyone reading this.
Do you wake up several times a night to gun fire? I?m not talking about on the news, or in worst case you may hear it a few blocks away. I’m talking about when the rounds are hitting the ground around you.

Or to see someone 10 ft from you get a bullet in the head? Have you seen your friends blow up walking to the liquor store? I mean I could go on and on and on, about the diff types of blood and gore these guys experience day in and day out. Wondering when it?s going to be your time. They have to be careful letting someone approach them because they could have a bomb on them. This goes for every vehicle that approaches them. And the latest is the placement of a bomb in animal carcasses, yah that’s right.

You people have no clue what soldiers have to endure physiologically every hour of the day. As far as these… dogs… They run rampant over there, believe me you would be desensitized too if you seen what I’ve seen. They chew on carcasses, and I mean human carcasses.

I saw someone saying something if they saw someone throwing rocks at your dog you’d kick someone’s ass. What if you saw a dog eating your neighbors dead body, say an 8 yr old kids corpse. We saw a pack of these things chewing on a fetus; they had just torn it out of a dead woman?s womb. So excuse me, and those soldiers for throwing a rock at one of these heartless cannibals.

The media glorifies everything, you have no idea what that … dog as you call it, has done. As far as we know, it could have attacked a soldier 10 mins before they threw rocks at it.

-If you are not in the military, STFU…
-If you?re not over there and know first hand what goes on, STFU…
-If your life is not in danger every single minute, STFU…
-Whether they are asleep, shaving, going to the bathroom, doing patrols, etc? They know that each breath they take could be their last one. Can you say that? Then STFU?
-They deal with friends being shot, blown up, resulting in death, loosing body parts etc. DO YOU?? Then STFU…
-Do you go for months without a hot meal, a shower, toilet paper? If not then STFU…
-Did your wife/GF/BF send you a letter telling you they are going leave you while you?re dealing with all of this? Prob not so STFU…
-Are you missing 2-3 yrs of your child?s life?
-Is the highlight of your day mail call?

If you don?t have the nads to join the military that?s your choice, but don?t presume to watch a small clip and come to conclusions about our service men. Seriously your not there, you know nothing of what goes on there, and you don?t know what events led up to that dog incident. Until you?ve walked a mile in the shoes of a service member in combat
STFU!!!

You sit in the comfort of your air conditioned or heated, office/home, watching TV, ordering a Pizza. You read, judge, criticize and then reply to this post on your computer. After work you pick up a dinner from KFC, then some flowers for your loved one. All the time not worried at all that you may run over a mine and dieing.

On the way home you see a fender bender, not a mangled car, body pieces strewn, or an all out gun battle at the corner store.
While you walk from your car to your door, you have to stop short to let a jogger pass, then a woman walking her dog. You don?t worry that the jogger could be strapped down with a bomb big enough to take out 50 sq ft, killing yourself and anyone around you.

When you walk in the door with dinner you kiss your loved one, hug your kids, not at all worried about someone throwing a grenade through your door/window. At night you lie next to your loved one, make love, then kiss him/her goodnight, and you don’t think twice about dieing while you sleep to mortar fire.

In the morning you wake up, eat your breakfast, drink your coffee, walk to your car, drive to work and don’t worry about a being shot, or stepping/driving landmine blowing off your leg? at the very least. Your biggest worry is what you are going to have for lunch, or dinner.

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F*ckin’ A Solyjr. Well said sir.

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[quote]solyjr wrote: A whole bunch of stuff almost directly quoted from ‘A Few Good Men’
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Get off your soap box. I have served my country for almost 15 years and put my life on the line almost everyday.

I can relate to all your rantings. According to you that gives me the right to call those guys dickheads.

Those guys are dickheads.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
So easy to hide behind your keyboard, and talk smack. How you would do this and that bla bla bla… I?m Billy bad ass?. all these damn internet chumps with opinions.

A few questions for anyone reading this.
Do you wake up several times a night to gun fire? I?m not talking about on the news, or in worst case you may hear it a few blocks away. I’m talking about when the rounds are hitting the ground around you.

Or to see someone 10 ft from you get a bullet in the head? Have you seen your friends blow up walking to the liquor store? I mean I could go on and on and on, about the diff types of blood and gore these guys experience day in and day out. Wondering when it?s going to be your time. They have to be careful letting someone approach them because they could have a bomb on them. This goes for every vehicle that approaches them. And the latest is the placement of a bomb in animal carcasses, yah that’s right.

You people have no clue what soldiers have to endure physiologically every hour of the day. As far as these… dogs… They run rampant over there, believe me you would be desensitized too if you seen what I’ve seen. They chew on carcasses, and I mean human carcasses.

I saw someone saying something if they saw someone throwing rocks at your dog you’d kick someone’s ass. What if you saw a dog eating your neighbors dead body, say an 8 yr old kids corpse. We saw a pack of these things chewing on a fetus; they had just torn it out of a dead woman?s womb. So excuse me, and those soldiers for throwing a rock at one of these heartless cannibals.

The media glorifies everything, you have no idea what that … dog as you call it, has done. As far as we know, it could have attacked a soldier 10 mins before they threw rocks at it.

-If you are not in the military, STFU…
-If you?re not over there and know first hand what goes on, STFU…
-If your life is not in danger every single minute, STFU…
-Whether they are asleep, shaving, going to the bathroom, doing patrols, etc? They know that each breath they take could be their last one. Can you say that? Then STFU?
-They deal with friends being shot, blown up, resulting in death, loosing body parts etc. DO YOU?? Then STFU…
-Do you go for months without a hot meal, a shower, toilet paper? If not then STFU…
-Did your wife/GF/BF send you a letter telling you they are going leave you while you?re dealing with all of this? Prob not so STFU…
-Are you missing 2-3 yrs of your child?s life?
-Is the highlight of your day mail call?

If you don?t have the nads to join the military that?s your choice, but don?t presume to watch a small clip and come to conclusions about our service men. Seriously your not there, you know nothing of what goes on there, and you don?t know what events led up to that dog incident. Until you?ve walked a mile in the shoes of a service member in combat
STFU!!!

You sit in the comfort of your air conditioned or heated, office/home, watching TV, ordering a Pizza. You read, judge, criticize and then reply to this post on your computer. After work you pick up a dinner from KFC, then some flowers for your loved one. All the time not worried at all that you may run over a mine and dieing.

On the way home you see a fender bender, not a mangled car, body pieces strewn, or an all out gun battle at the corner store.
While you walk from your car to your door, you have to stop short to let a jogger pass, then a woman walking her dog. You don?t worry that the jogger could be strapped down with a bomb big enough to take out 50 sq ft, killing yourself and anyone around you.

When you walk in the door with dinner you kiss your loved one, hug your kids, not at all worried about someone throwing a grenade through your door/window. At night you lie next to your loved one, make love, then kiss him/her goodnight, and you don’t think twice about dieing while you sleep to mortar fire.

In the morning you wake up, eat your breakfast, drink your coffee, walk to your car, drive to work and don’t worry about a being shot, or stepping/driving landmine blowing off your leg? at the very least. Your biggest worry is what you are going to have for lunch, or dinner.
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And what does this have to do with the tea in china or throwing rocks and tormenting at a crippled/dying dog?

I just noticed you have one post. Next!

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
-If you are not in the military, STFU…
-If you?re not over there and know first hand what goes on, STFU…
-If your life is not in danger every single minute, STFU…
-Whether they are asleep, shaving, going to the bathroom, doing patrols, etc? They know that each breath they take could be their last one. Can you say that? Then STFU?
-They deal with friends being shot, blown up, resulting in death, loosing body parts etc. DO YOU?? Then STFU…
-Do you go for months without a hot meal, a shower, toilet paper? If not then STFU…
-Did your wife/GF/BF send you a letter telling you they are going leave you while you?re dealing with all of this? Prob not so STFU…[/quote]

When was freedom of speech removed from your Constitution?

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
solyjr wrote: A whole bunch of stuff almost directly quoted from ‘A Few Good Men’

Get off your soap box. I have served my country for almost 15 years and put my life on the line almost everyday.

I can relate to all your rantings. According to you that gives me the right to call those guys dickheads.

Those guys are dickheads.

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Nothing I said was quoted, it came from my heart.

I have the right to be on a soap box, I did my 20, I have been there and done that. Have you been over there?

You don’t get it do you, those animals are not pets, get it through your head. See the stuff they have done and you would not think the same way.

Damn people if you have not, will not, can not, or whatever… Experience what they are going through over there… STFU

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[quote]And what does this have to do with the tea in china or throwing rocks and tormenting at a crippled/dying dog?

I just noticed you have one post. Next![/quote]

Seriously, how old are you? What do you do for a living? Married? Kids? Dog? Live on a farm?
I’d like to know more about where your profound knowledge and insight come from?

The fact that I have only 1 post means nothing dumb ass. If you read the portion where I talk about my very own experiences with seeing how these animals were chewing a human fetus, then you would understand what it has to do with it.

I don’t criticize people in other professions when they do something that gets the media’s attention. You know why? Cause I don’t fucking know anything about what they do, and I’ve never been in their shoes.

Bleeding heart, liberal, scared to break a nail, let alone do something like join the military and have to deal with violence… OMG you civilians have NO IDEA, NONE, what we put up. It’s fine if you don’t want to do what we do, but don’t judge us from a short, biased, clip, which doesn’t tell the whole story.

With that I am “off my soap box”.
Ignorance is bliss isn’t it…

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solyjr wrote:
-If you are not in the military, STFU…
-If you?re not over there and know first hand what goes on, STFU…
-If your life is not in danger every single minute, STFU…
-Whether they are asleep, shaving, going to the bathroom, doing patrols, etc? They know that each breath they take could be their last one. Can you say that? Then STFU?
-They deal with friends being shot, blown up, resulting in death, loosing body parts etc. DO YOU?? Then STFU…
-Do you go for months without a hot meal, a shower, toilet paper? If not then STFU…
-Did your wife/GF/BF send you a letter telling you they are going leave you while you?re dealing with all of this? Prob not so STFU…

[quote]pookie wrote:
When was freedom of speech removed from your Constitution?
[/quote]

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it’s called common sense
if you can’t intelligently reply… STFU
In other words, if you can’t hang with the big dogs, get the fuck off the porch.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
Seriously, how old are you? What do you do for a living? Married? Kids? Dog? Live on a farm?
I’d like to know more about where your profound knowledge and insight come from?

The fact that I have only 1 post means nothing dumb ass. If you read the portion where I talk about my very own experiences with seeing how these animals were chewing a human fetus, then you would understand what it has to do with it.

I don’t criticize people in other professions when they do something that gets the media’s attention. You know why? Cause I don’t fucking know anything about what they do, and I’ve never been in their shoes.

Bleeding heart, liberal, scared to break a nail, let alone do something like join the military and have to deal with violence… OMG you civilians have NO IDEA, NONE, what we put up. It’s fine if you don’t want to do what we do, but don’t judge us from a short, biased, clip, which doesn’t tell the whole story.

With that I am “off my soap box”.
Ignorance is bliss isn’t it…
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Are you sure its safe to have you running around on the streets with all of the pent up anger thats fuming off your posts?

And if you could read or comprehend a discussion you would notice or understand that I’m talking about these particular soldiers not soldiers as a whole.

Its frightening the way some uniforms defend other uniforms. Its an extreme gang mentality and very often inhibits rational thought.

One post=troll. Now you have 3 and are now a 3 post troll.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
if you can’t intelligently reply… STFU
In other words, if you can’t hang with the big dogs, get the fuck off the porch.
[/quote]

You just solidified yourself as an moron.

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This whole thing reminds me of a social studies experiment in highschool. We were shown a quick video. It showed what looked like a tough street thug grabbing another man who looked like a businessman in a suit and throwing him into an ally. We were asked “what just happened”. We all said it looked like the guy was getting mugged. Then they showed another video of the same thing, only this was taken for further away and you could see construction going on in the area. As soon as the guy got thrown into the ally, some giant chunk of concrete landed precisely where he had been standing. It was not a mugging.

Sometimes you don’t know the whole story.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it’s called common sense
if you can’t intelligently reply… STFU
In other words, if you can’t hang with the big dogs, get the fuck off the porch.[/quote]

Reply intelligently? To your stupid crap? You’ve got to be kidding.

Just because you’re bitter at having been misused by your government in implementing it’s foreign policy mistakes doesn’t mean anyone else can’t comment on people behaving like assholes when that’s what they’re doing.

Didn’t like your service? Too bad, but not our fucking problem. No one asked you to volunteer. Maybe a career in a Korean food joint would’ve been a better fit. You could’ve carved up doggies all day long.

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[quote]PGA wrote:
solyjr wrote:
if you can’t intelligently reply… STFU
In other words, if you can’t hang with the big dogs, get the fuck off the porch.

You just solidified yourself as an moron.[/quote]

I assure you the streets, are safer with me on them.
It’s frightening the way a liberalist can come running along to defend… A dog of all things, that which neither you nor I know the whole story of.

I have 3 posts; you have… you know what I don’t have time to count the number of posts you have. So what does that make you?

BTW, you never answered my questions aimed directly at you. I really would like to know how you came about your infinite wisdom.

There you go again, solidifying yourself as being ignorant, with your statement ?You just solidified yourself as an moron.?

Nice try, you?re grasping at straws, in order to save face, and recover from my response. You feebly attempt to comeback with some sort of attention gaining retort, but?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
solyjr wrote:
This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it’s called common sense
if you can’t intelligently reply… STFU
In other words, if you can’t hang with the big dogs, get the fuck off the porch.

Reply intelligently? To your stupid crap? You’ve got to be kidding.

Just because you’re bitter at having been misused by your government in implementing it’s foreign policy mistakes doesn’t mean anyone else can’t comment on people behaving like assholes when that’s what they’re doing.

Didn’t like your service? Too bad, but not our fucking problem. No one asked you to volunteer. Maybe a career in a Korean food joint would’ve been a better fit. You could’ve carved up doggies all day long.

[/quote]

Not bitter about my service at all. I’m bitter about Ignorant/ungrateful/spoiled/mama’s boy/pansy/liberal/cry baby/ people who will talk smack all day, but ask them to do something to make a diff, they turn their back, saying stupid things about service men and women when they don’t know anything about what we do/put up/deal with.

I’m simply saying; if you don’t know anything about what I do, keep your mouth shut. When you step up to the plate, go over there, come back and then talk smack? Then I will ?listen?, to what you have to say. Until such a time, your just another nobody jumping on the ?attention whore bandwagon?.

Anyhow, you all have a nice day?
flame on!

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
Not bitter about my service at all. I’m bitter about Ignorant/ungrateful/spoiled/mama’s boy/pansy/liberal/cry baby/ people who will talk smack all day, but ask them to do something to make a diff, they turn their back, saying stupid things about service men and women when they don’t know anything about what we do/put up/deal with. [/quote]

Anyone who generalizes the situation to the whole army is, yes, an idiot. But to simply opine that these guys probably could be doing something more worthwhile is, like you say, simple common sense.

Why? Don’t you ever complain about anything not military? You’re not a politician; should you STFU about liberals? If your car is a lemon, do you STFU about it because you’re not a UAW member?

Have you ever written a line of C++? Do you ever swear at Windows?

It’s not very hard to see soldiers doing something stupid and say “Hey, these guys are doing something stupid.” And it doesn’t matter if the dog is a fetus-eating mongrel; he’s an animal. Unless your point is that the soldiers are also dumb animals, and should not be blamed for having stupid instincts?

[quote]Anyhow, you all have a nice day?
flame on! [/quote]

That’s already a step up from “STFU.” Have a nice day too.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
Nothing I said was quoted, it came from my heart.[/quote]

OK, not quoted, but from your heart? Please Mr. Nicholson the premise is the same.

[quote]
I have the right to be on a soap box, I did my 20, I have been there and done that. Have you been over there?[/quote]

You are a self righteous MFer aren’t you?

For the record I did four years military and, yes I have been there. What, are you going to require me to fax you my DD214 so you can compare with your great accomplishments? Then and only then can I be deemed worthy to have an opinion?

All that shit has nothing to do with this video or with dickheads throwing rocks at dogs? Not a fucking thing.

[quote]
You don’t get it do you, those animals are not pets, get it through your head. See the stuff they have done and you would not think the same way.[/quote]

I think it’s you and your ilk who don’t get it. To me, them being soldiers is a moot point. I don’t care what they do for a living and them being soldiers doesn’t give them a pass for ignorance.

It also doesn’t matter to me if it wasn’t a pet. I’d feel the same way if they were throwing rocks at an injured pig, bird, horse, turtle and even you. I’m funny that way, being humane and compassionate and all.

You throw this at me again? If you think someone needs to walk a mile in your shoes to be able to point out the obvious, you must be a bigger idiot in person than you appear in your words.

I thank you for your service to my country, but your blind cheerleading leads me to believe you would throw rocks at a crippled dog.

Way to go soldier!

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Why? Don’t you ever complain about anything not military? You’re not a politician; should you STFU about liberals? If your car is a lemon, do you STFU about it because you’re not a UAW member?

Have you ever written a line of C++? Do you ever swear at Windows?
[/quote]

FYI, this is not a personal attack, just a response to you.

Yah I complain, but the difference is I am not a self proclaimed expert in said named subject, and go on to judge the decisions those people make. The same can be said for any stupidity they may do. Now the big difference between say a programmer, and a service member is the effect of war.

Bad things happen in war, the human psyche can only handle so much before real physiological damage, or impairment of judgment occurs.

What were they doing out there in the middle of no where? Could they have been doing something better? I don’t know, maybe they were at a post waiting and reporting anything that moved etc. So they got bored, and threw, from what I could tell some small rocks at a dog. Why? Best I could tell was so they could film it hobbling off, which they found to be humorous. Was it wrong or right… everyone has an opinion, but did they do something horrendous to it? No…

Do they deserve the hatred proclaimed on this discussion? I don?t think so? So I, like the rest on here, posted my 2 cents from a point of view that very few people could offer. I just attempted to lift the blinders of ignorance towards things over there. However there will be those that just plain don?t care, and want to stick to being narrow minded.
So take my facts that I shared, do what you will, form a better understanding or hold on to your ignorant opinions. Just remember what they say about opinions?
They are like butt-holes, everyone has one and they all stink?

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
pookie wrote:
Why? Don’t you ever complain about anything not military? You’re not a politician; should you STFU about liberals? If your car is a lemon, do you STFU about it because you’re not a UAW member?

Have you ever written a line of C++? Do you ever swear at Windows?

FYI, this is not a personal attack, just a response to you.

Yah I complain, but the difference is I am not a self proclaimed expert in said named subject, and go on to judge the decisions those people make. The same can be said for any stupidity they may do. Now the big difference between say a programmer, and a service member is the effect of war.

Bad things happen in war, the human psyche can only handle so much before real physiological damage, or impairment of judgment occurs.

What were they doing out there in the middle of no where? Could they have been doing something better? I don’t know, maybe they were at a post waiting and reporting anything that moved etc. So they got bored, and threw, from what I could tell some small rocks at a dog. Why? Best I could tell was so they could film it hobbling off, which they found to be humorous. Was it wrong or right… everyone has an opinion, but did they do something horrendous to it? No…

Do they deserve the hatred proclaimed on this discussion? I don?t think so? So I, like the rest on here, posted my 2 cents from a point of view that very few people could offer. I just attempted to lift the blinders of ignorance towards things over there. However there will be those that just plain don?t care, and want to stick to being narrow minded.
So take my facts that I shared, do what you will, form a better understanding or hold on to your ignorant opinions. Just remember what they say about opinions?
They are like butt-holes, everyone has one and they all stink?
[/quote]

You have stated neither facts nor insight to anything. You attacked people who had differing opinions than yours. Now that you have been put in your place you are becoming semi-civil.

Welcome to T-Nation.

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[quote]solyjr wrote:
A bunch of stupid bullshit.
[/quote]

Hey solyjr,

STFU!

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
solyjr wrote:
pookie wrote:
Why? Don’t you ever complain about anything not military? You’re not a politician; should you STFU about liberals? If your car is a lemon, do you STFU about it because you’re not a UAW member?

Have you ever written a line of C++? Do you ever swear at Windows?

FYI, this is not a personal attack, just a response to you.

Yah I complain, but the difference is I am not a self proclaimed expert in said named subject, and go on to judge the decisions those people make. The same can be said for any stupidity they may do. Now the big difference between say a programmer, and a service member is the effect of war.

Bad things happen in war, the human psyche can only handle so much before real physiological damage, or impairment of judgment occurs.

What were they doing out there in the middle of no where? Could they have been doing something better? I don’t know, maybe they were at a post waiting and reporting anything that moved etc. So they got bored, and threw, from what I could tell some small rocks at a dog. Why? Best I could tell was so they could film it hobbling off, which they found to be humorous. Was it wrong or right… everyone has an opinion, but did they do something horrendous to it? No…

Do they deserve the hatred proclaimed on this discussion? I don?t think so? So I, like the rest on here, posted my 2 cents from a point of view that very few people could offer. I just attempted to lift the blinders of ignorance towards things over there. However there will be those that just plain don?t care, and want to stick to being narrow minded.
So take my facts that I shared, do what you will, form a better understanding or hold on to your ignorant opinions. Just remember what they say about opinions?
They are like butt-holes, everyone has one and they all stink?

You have stated neither facts nor insight to anything. You attacked people who had differing opinions than yours. Now that you have been put in your place you are becoming semi-civil.

Welcome to T-Nation.
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That statement is incorrect, did you even read my initial post?