[quote]windmill85 wrote:
im not justifying their actions, but why the need to call our soldiers that? we put our lives on the line for our country and what our country asks us to do. maybe you dont agree with what our country is doing, but that is on a political level much higher than what we decide. if you disagree, go vote, but dont call us that, we volunteered to serve and protect our country, and that means doing what is asked. [/quote]
What are you talking about? What those soldiers were doing has nothing to do with policy that put them in another country to fight. The politics has nothing to do with the actions of those soldiers.
I guess you missed at the end of the clip when the guy, while laughing, said “I really want to kill that thing, dude. Can we kill it?”
I don’t care how “bored” a soldier gets. That’s completely unacceptable.
Well yeah, if the thing is as miserable as it looks, I might rather see it killed as well. The fact that he’s laughing doesn’t phase me in the least.
These guys probably have to face down “civilians” with AKs and potential roadside bombs every other day. If the best they can do for entertainment is filming a freak of a dog and then putting it out of it’s misery, I’m certainly not going to start a movement to see them prosecuted for animal cruelty.[/quote]
They simply should not have done this…thread made me think of the ‘why we fight’ thread(http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1407984) and how it was sayint 750$ billion a year goes to the military and what a waste of money that is…Imagine if they would put that kind of money into doing something good like researching treatment for a disease…helping the poor(or any kind of education for that matter)…
had they spent as muchh money on researching alternative energy sources that they have on killing in the name of oil thus far in Iraq we’d be all driving green vehicles.
But, nope instead the money goes to training idiots that probably have trouble driving a vehicle with a standard transmission how to kill, I mean no disrespect to anyone with down syndrome but that one soldier it did show looked like he could be a special olympics athlete…not like he should be equiped with weapons.
…and no being there having people shooting at you DOES NOT justify ‘just having to blow off some steam’
their there to ‘give these people freedom’(or whatever bullshit they say now), so they should be setting an example…maybe the people there wouldn’t be shooting at them and regard them with such hatred if they acted like civilized humans and not like this and that other video that was floating on here awhile ago with the soldiers taunting the kids with the water…
[quote]Cunnivore wrote:
Yes, clearly they are war criminals for trying to get that dog on film walking on two legs without getting close enough to get bit. They are much worse than any bored kid in the US or anywhere else in the whole fucking world. Please kill them.[/quote]
Ohhhh, that’s what they were doing? Okay then.
Next time I see a crippled person in a wheel chair, I’ll be sure to knock them out of it, and then point and laugh as they struggle to get up.
Then we can all have a good laugh.
Or, is it only if I’m in a warzone that I can do that and it’s okay?
army strong,yeah right fucking shit birds as a former marine this is one reason we have a lesser opinion of the army.but there are some hard core army personel and they should show these type how to do thier branch of service proud.
I feel sorry for you and anybody you may get close to. May god or whoever give them the strength to endure you.
Take care.[/quote]
Seriously, take it up with PETA or the ACLU or something. Nobody’s recommending these cockgobblers for medals on here, but in the greater scheme of things, this is a total non-event.
Don’t get me wrong, I love animals as much as the next guy, and I have three too many pets in my apartment as evidence thereof, but as animal cruelty goes, this is light weight. Check the video of the caged cat getting set on fire for references. Those swizzledicks got sent to jail, which they deserved.
These guys harassing the dog are clearly calloused fuckwits, and I wouldn’t let them babysit my kids, but what they’re doing is probably the exact same thing half of college students around the world (not just evil Americans) would do. I hope I’m wrong about that, but seriously, I doubt it.
Given the history of the human race, this kind of behaviour surprises you? The sooner you realise that people, no matter the color of their skin, chosen religion, sexual preference, or IQ mark, are for the most part fairly fucked up, the happier you will be. Well, maybe not happier, but you might be a little less insane.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Given the history of the human race, this kind of behaviour surprises you? The sooner you realise that people, no matter the color of their skin, chosen religion, sexual preference, or IQ mark, are for the most part fairly fucked up, the happier you will be. Well, maybe not happier, but you might be a little less insane.[/quote]
I agree with you on this, Kid. The lack of empathy from dick heads like this lead me to classify them as being closer to animal than human. What kind of thought process would an adult have to have to do this type of thing? Does it stop at a crippled dog?
I eat meat, but I don’t want the cow tortured. If these assholes had any compassion they would have put that dog down. But I’m not suprised by their actions one bit. It’s typical of man in general.
What they did was ridiculous and shouldn’t be tolerated…
With that said, saying (or implying, whatever word you want me to use) that the entire Military is like these people is just as ridiculous.
Furthermore, without a Military, there would be no homeless in the US to take care of because there would be no US.
But i’m not going to turn this into another Military/War in Iraq thread, so i’ll stop there.
Being in the Military myself, I hope they’re punished for what they did…
Oh yeah… And if you’re trying to make an intelligent argument, don’t go calling people retards and making fun of anyone/everyone mentally handicapped. It makes you sound like a hypocritical moron.
you guys are a complete bunch of pussies. who the fuck cares.
Bottom line, if you like the war or not, those soliders are still over there risking their lifes. I could care less if they spike an iraqi baby and put it on youtube. There over there so we dont have to be, they can do w/e they want for all i care.
[quote]blok wrote:
you guys are a complete bunch of pussies. who the fuck cares.
Bottom line, if you like the war or not, those soliders are still over there risking their lifes. I could care less if they spike an iraqi baby and put it on youtube. There over there so we dont have to be, they can do w/e they want for all i care.
Don’t you people have something else to worry about? Holy shit. A couple of soldiers messed with a dog. BFD! Call the New York Times. Talk about petty. These guys are in danger of getting shot/blown-up/decapitated/tortured every day and YOU are worried about them harassing dogs?
WTF?! They didn’t walk up to some Iraqi dude and shoot his camel or throw rocks at kids. I suggest you quit worrying about Iraqi dogs. Good Lord. Some of you need to step outside of your little soft, safe, warm, comfortable existence and see how the other side lives.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Given the history of the human race, this kind of behaviour surprises you? The sooner you realise that people, no matter the color of their skin, chosen religion, sexual preference, or IQ mark, are for the most part fairly fucked up, the happier you will be. Well, maybe not happier, but you might be a little less insane.[/quote]
second…
Now I totaly agree with calling those actions stupid, but…still… it is funny watching the dog walk on 2 legs.
You have the nerve to call our soldiers scum bags and ass holes because they are throwing rocks at a dog who is about to do die? Did you ever think about your freedom?
about the very fact that you woke up in a lap of luxury that is the United State of America.
Those brave soldiers fight for our very existence and freedoms that you enjoy, but obviously take for granted. Sure, go ahead, get pissed at the soldier because you are pissed at our president.
Go ahead and be pissed at him all you want, politics is politics, but a soldier is much different.
You people piss me off! Enjoy making love to your wife or girlfriend knowing the fact they she wont get taken away from you, then raped in front of your eyes by 30 men, then shot in the head. Go enjoy that freedom
I can’t play sound at work so I didn’t hear the soliders. But I wonder if they were just trying to move the dog for some reason. Maybe they had to build something, who fuck knows.
Dogs in the middle east are nothing like dogs in the states. They are more like wolves than house pets. So I wonder if they were just trying to get it to move without getting close to it.