the man is huge, i only gave him an 8 only because he is 19 and has a ton of potential left.
nice work bro
[quote]gbv wrote:
AvGJoE wrote:
Either way he has far more muscle than me, and a great look, but all natural!?!? You will never make a believer out of me! Still looking good, so I will drop you a nine all natural or NOT!
Actually AvGJoE’s pic is more impressive to me than this guy’s. It just looks a lot healthier and non-chemically. [/quote]
that is the dumbest thing said on this forum since eliteball and his shoe
[quote]gbv wrote:
If you achieved your mass through drug abuse[/quote]
A. Use is different than abuse.
B. (shameless insult warning.) You’re a Cunt.
C. Learn about steroids…you might be suprised.
D. You can look at my pics and tell that I’m definitely not a user (unless I’m buying the worst batches imaginable) So don’t bother with the “your a user of course you’ll defend them” response.
Very good build dude, and great for your age. You should compete in my honest opinion.
I think everyone on T-Nation would give to get this much attention from this many people over a few body shots. I believe you’re clean of steroids. All those guys who say that huge dudes on steroids are cheating and its easy, I bet they couldn’t get that same size if they took them theirselves.
There is only one thing I am confused about on this thread and I have not seen it brought up, so I thought I would ask: The one thing I cannot see is a match-up between the photos and the height/weight combination. I’ve seen a lot of guys in great shape in my time and you certainly fit that mold, but at 5’7", I have an incredibly hard time seeing how you only weight 176 lbs with that kind of size. Just does not match up at all.
All the talk of natural vs. “unnatural” I could care less about. Evaluate the physique as is and be done with it.
5’7 isn’t that tall plus I’ve seen bigger unmatches with weight vs. size ratios in my time. This is just another example.
freaking jacked! good work bro… what is your diet like, by the way? (sorry if it was posted, but there is over 12 pages now)
Giving you a 10
[quote]sed26 wrote:
5’7 isn’t that tall plus I’ve seen bigger unmatches with weight vs. size ratios in my time. This is just another example.[/quote]
No, I understand especially since I am the same height. My point is that I have never before seen someone at that kind of size and height, but only weighing 176 lbs. Yes, he is very lean so there is a high percentage of lean mass, but still… just does not quite add up to me.
You know I have been lurking this thread for quite sometime and havent gotten around to posting however I do want to say is this guy has totally proven who he is. Dont be jealous of his accomplishments. Honestly most of you should be asking his routines and diets lol
^haha we already did but its jumbled somewhere between all this rambling which created the most popular “Rate my Physique” thread I’ve ever seen.
Well I finally had a look at this one, and all I’ll say is definitely juiced, but not impressive at all.
with your short limbs you have made fast gains on your legs and arms, yet the place that matters most in bodybuilding is the V taper and broad shoulder girth.
this you will never attain due to your very under average length clavicles.
to explain furthur, the length between the middle of your chest and your shoulders is too short, due to the length of bone there.
I am not sure how much genetics from your parents plays into this, however it is also a good possibility that your decision to begin juicing at such a young age quite possibly could have put an end to your growth in these bones, forever preventing you from obtaining the physique you were trying for.
Competing will be very disapointing for you, as no matter how big your limbs get, you will never be able to compete with anyone in the front and back poses. Anybody with a wider back will likely place a head of you, and quite frankly as I said above, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Haha wow what an asshole.
[quote]mr popular wrote:
Haha wow what an asshole.[/quote] The real asshole is you for not knowing when an experienced bodybuilder talks.
[quote]sawadeekrob wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Haha wow what an asshole. The real asshole is you for not knowing when an experienced bodybuilder talks.[/quote]
Oh, come on. Would you agree that pwrbarboy is [quote]definitely juiced, but not impressive at all[/quote]?
While Prisoner’s comments about his future in bodybuilding may be correct, to say he isn’t impressive at all is just stupid. Experienced bodybuilder or not.
[quote]conner wrote:
sawadeekrob wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Haha wow what an asshole. The real asshole is you for not knowing when an experienced bodybuilder talks.
Oh, come on. Would you agree that pwrbarboy is definitely juiced, but not impressive at all?
While Prisoner’s comments about his future in bodybuilding may be correct, to say he isn’t impressive at all is just stupid. Experienced bodybuilder or not.[/quote]
He may be impressive to you, however from my standpoint I am not impressed at all.
There is nothing stupid about the comments I made, and I am definitely not an asshole. He wanted truthfull critique, and I have given it.
[quote]Prisoner wrote:
conner wrote:
sawadeekrob wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Haha wow what an asshole. The real asshole is you for not knowing when an experienced bodybuilder talks.
Oh, come on. Would you agree that pwrbarboy is definitely juiced, but not impressive at all?
While Prisoner’s comments about his future in bodybuilding may be correct, to say he isn’t impressive at all is just stupid. Experienced bodybuilder or not.
He may be impressive to you, however from my standpoint I am not impressed at all.
There is nothing stupid about the comments I made, and I am definitely not an asshole. He wanted truthfull critique, and I have given it. [/quote]
Well, I wouldn’t say your opinion on his physique or your thoughts as to his potential as a bodybuilder are stupid (you’re entitled to the former and you are knowledgeable and experienced enough for the latter), I do, however, feel that what he has managed to accomplish is impressive - there are plenty of lifters out there (who use and who don’t) who, over the course of their lives, are not going to touch what this kid did in two years.
His transformation (both the change itself and the obvious dedication and drive that went into it) is what I find most impressive. He accomplished quite a bit - no one can deny him that. The thing I found to be stupid (I think I could have made this a little more clear earlier) was that I found your first post to be dismissive of all that. If that wasn’t how you meant it to be interpreted, then I apologize for jumping in. But, if you do feel that this change isn’t worthy of praise (if not the end result, then AT LEAST the balls that went in to making it happen), I’ll have to stand behind my ‘stupid’ comment.
There is more then one issue at play on this thread. The first is the OP’s physique which is impressive as most if not all have noted. However he attained this through the use of steroids or all natural doesn’t take away from that.
The second is the question of whether or not steroids may have been used to help attain this physique. For anyone who has any experience with gear and or bodybuilding beyond a newbie level there are some pretty strong indicators of this. However, it’s all circumstantial so other then the OP no one knows for sure. People may or may not always choose to be forthcoming for whatever reason.
The third is when you post a pic of your progress on a discussion forum you are going to have a wide array of opinions on it. It should be expected. However, anyone who dared asked if anabolics may have been used is immediately labeled jealous, not training hard enough, lazy, and a host of other names. By what sounds like many (not all) young guys who don’t have a lot of time under their belt in this game.
Again, the guy has a pretty impressive physique with or without the use of gear and as Prisoner noted on a stage there may be other judgement placed in that arena other then you look “jacked”.
D
I’m sorry, but to say this kid’s unimpressive is absurd. His physique is damn near as impessive as the guy who was bashing it. I don’t believe for a second that he hasn’t fucked with some kind of anabolic [and I’m not buying the PH thing]. But, having said that crazier shit has happened. Either way, no one can take away from his achievements, natural or not.
Definitely a stunner, there, pwrbarboy. I give you a 9+. Legs are REAL impressive. Got any pix of your calves? And, what is your leg routine? I saw someone else ask but I haven’t seen a reply from you.