Soccer is where the money is at

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
You don’t have to play it professionally to understand that it’s a tough sport, so I’d say he’s qualified enough to make a statement like that. And that you’re not qualified to call him a fucking dumbass. After reading one post. Football might be the number one cause of knee injuries in the world.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
You don’t have to play it professionally to understand that it’s a tough sport, so I’d say he’s qualified enough to make a statement like that. And that you’re not qualified to call him a fucking dumbass. After reading one post. Football might be the number one cause of knee injuries in the world.[/quote]

You’re right, you don’t have to play it to evaluate it. But you have to at least watch it to evaluate it. For instance, when was the last time you panned a movie that you hadn’t even seen? Come on, you’re smarter than that. And I am more than qualified to call someone a fucking dumbass when he makes a fucking dumbass comment like “I’ve never played or watch something but here is my opinion on how tough the players are that I don’t watch and how tough a sport that I don’t play is.”

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

Listen, not all opinions are of equal merit. I played varsity soccer for four years in high school and I played varsity football for three. Is soccer a tough sport? Sure, it’s physically demanding, there are high rates of injuries and it requires a high degree of skill. But the amount of traumatic injuries suffered in soccer is NOTHING compared to football.

Tearing your knee up trying to change direction in the open field is not even close to being comparable to getting your clavicle snapped in half from a hit that you didn’t even see coming. Collisions in soccer are, for the most part, either incidental or happen at a much slower speed than football collisions do.

And saying he’s right is like saying that my three year old niece is right when she walks in the room and tells me that E=MC squared.

NFL careers are just 4 years? That’s ridiculous!

I have never played for a football club, as rugby has always interested me far more. Been playing rugby for 16 years now… played in 1 fucking football tournament and broke my arm!

Obv my knowledge stops at having a kick about over the park with mates, but IMO I highly doubt football is tough… but this is coming from an ‘egg chasing, football is for boys, rugby is for men’ type ;). Gotta love a bit of rivalry! Unless you mean tough fitness wise, then yeah of course.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]

Alright I watch it on TV I meant I don’t go to stadiums and watch it. I’m not an obsessive like the people Iron Dwarf mentions but I could tel you most of what’s going on in the Premiership right now. Poor distinction on my part. I admit.

I played it when I was at school and played for a club but stopped at 13. Football/soccer is a game with a huge injury rate especially with knee/groin/hamstrings. BushidoBadBoy was working with a strenth/conditioning unit with a Premiership football team I wonder what he has to say on the matter. As people have said you are doing lots of swivelling when running at full sprint, and you have to have total control of the ball as well as knowing what’s happening round the pitch, and you can’t be a nancy boy because unless you’re a striker or goalie you’re going to have to put the tackles in.

Sexmachine, my experience of playing in a rugby side is that we get injuries less frequently than the football/soccer players but the injuries (dislocated shoulder, broken collarbones, broken legs) were nastier than the football lot. Broken necks are rare, but unfortunately not unheard of either, with the propensity for collapsed scrums.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right. I always took the short career to mean it was due to injury etc.

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]

Alright I watch it on TV I meant I don’t go to stadiums and watch it. Poor distinction on my part. [/quote]

Jesus Fucking Christ. That changes everything. When you said you don’t watch it, I assumed you meant that you don’t watch it. I think you’re probably backtracking here after you realized what a dumbass your comment made you sound like, but in the event that you’re not I apologize.

See guys, I’m not the big asshole you all think I am.

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right. I always took the short career to mean it was due to injury etc. [/quote]

It IS due to injury. The reason young players can come in and take so many jobs is because the amount of injuries players accumulate over the course of even one season can very quickly deteriorate someone’s skills and abilities. Young players are just fresh meat for the grinder.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]

Alright I watch it on TV I meant I don’t go to stadiums and watch it. Poor distinction on my part. [/quote]

Jesus Fucking Christ. That changes everything. When you said you don’t watch it, I assumed you meant that you don’t watch it. I think you’re probably backtracking here after you realized what a dumbass your comment made you sound like, but in the event that you’re not I apologize.

See guys, I’m not the big asshole you all think I am.[/quote]

Honestly not backtracking. It’s very hard not to watch football on TV in the UK :D.

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]

Alright I watch it on TV I meant I don’t go to stadiums and watch it. Poor distinction on my part. [/quote]

Jesus Fucking Christ. That changes everything. When you said you don’t watch it, I assumed you meant that you don’t watch it. I think you’re probably backtracking here after you realized what a dumbass your comment made you sound like, but in the event that you’re not I apologize.

See guys, I’m not the big asshole you all think I am.[/quote]

Honestly not backtracking. It’s very hard not to watch football on TV in the UK :D.
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Lol! I was thinking this whole time “what kind of a guy is this who lives in Scotland and doesn’t watch European-rules football?” All is forgiven.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right. I always took the short career to mean it was due to injury etc. [/quote]

It IS due to injury. The reason young players can come in and take so many jobs is because the amount of injuries players accumulate over the course of even one season can very quickly deteriorate someone’s skills and abilities. Young players are just fresh meat for the grinder.[/quote]
Not from what I’m reading…

http://nfllabor.com/2011/04/18/what-is-average-nfl-player’s-career-length-longer-than-you-might-think-commissioner-goodell-says/

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]krebcycle wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right. I always took the short career to mean it was due to injury etc. [/quote]

It IS due to injury. The reason young players can come in and take so many jobs is because the amount of injuries players accumulate over the course of even one season can very quickly deteriorate someone’s skills and abilities. Young players are just fresh meat for the grinder.[/quote]
Not from what I’m reading…

http://nfllabor.com/2011/04/18/what-is-average-nfl-player’s-career-length-longer-than-you-might-think-commissioner-goodell-says/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/151701.php[/quote]

The Roger Goodell article is irrelevant, just like him. He clarifies that the average career length is 6 years, which is still very, very short by professional sports’ standards. I was never arguing about the actual length of the average career. And it says nothing about why the average career is this short from a credible source.

The other article cites ONE study, a study that essentially proves my point. The position a player plays is the biggest determining factor in the length of a career. Why? Because some positions carry with them a far more explicit chance of injury than others. In essence, it IS injuries that are responsible for the short careers of many players.

Also, the NFL is like anything else. I’m sure the league has commissioned many, many studies that show, with sometimes dubious information, that injuries are not as responsible for ending careers as many think they are. Why? They’re in a fucking lockout and the NFL’s owners are not going to want to pay more of their revenue into retired players’ pensions. Any way they can show, regardless of the veracity of the claim, that injuries are not the big career-ender many make them out to makes it easier for them to have a leg to stand on when it comes to negotiating a new CBA.

It’s called lobbying. It happens everywhere. The oil industry produces reams of studies (ExxonMobil alone produces something like 200 studies a year) that downplay or outright deny global warming, for instance.

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]

Alright I watch it on TV I meant I don’t go to stadiums and watch it. Poor distinction on my part. [/quote]

Jesus Fucking Christ. That changes everything. When you said you don’t watch it, I assumed you meant that you don’t watch it. I think you’re probably backtracking here after you realized what a dumbass your comment made you sound like, but in the event that you’re not I apologize.

See guys, I’m not the big asshole you all think I am.[/quote]

Honestly not backtracking. It’s very hard not to watch football on TV in the UK :D.
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You should go to the stadium then. The game is much different and more enjoyable, although I really miss watching the replays…

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:
I don’t play or watch football (swim and play rugby when I’m not too injured). But it is a tough sport - saying it’s not is like me saying that American Football is easier than rugby because you’re all wearing sissy padding :P[/quote]

You don’t play or watch soccer, yet you feel that you’re qualified to assess how tough a sport it is? What a fucking dumbass. I swear to God, there seems to have been a huge influx of braindead nonentities on this site in the last six months.[/quote]
he may not be qualified, but he’s right, anyhow. soccer is a tough fucking sport. change of speed all the time, change of direction, reflexes, lots of collisions w/ body parts, etc. it has the highest injury rate of all sports for a reason. and it just wears you the fuck out, you are walking and sprinting for 90+ fucking minutes.[/quote]

You’re right. It is tough, but not in the sense that NFL or rugby etc are tough. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the average NFL career is about 4 seasons. Careers of 15+ years are not uncommon in football.[/quote]
I thought that NFL careers were short not because of injury, but because it is so competitive that new guys are always coming in from the draft and just taking spots.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right. I always took the short career to mean it was due to injury etc. [/quote]

It IS due to injury. The reason young players can come in and take so many jobs is because the amount of injuries players accumulate over the course of even one season can very quickly deteriorate someone’s skills and abilities. Young players are just fresh meat for the grinder.[/quote]
Not from what I’m reading…

http://nfllabor.com/2011/04/18/what-is-average-nfl-player’s-career-length-longer-than-you-might-think-commissioner-goodell-says/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/151701.php[/quote]

The Roger Goodell article is irrelevant, just like him. He clarifies that the average career length is 6 years, which is still very, very short by professional sports’ standards. I was never arguing about the actual length of the average career. And it says nothing about why the average career is this short from a credible source.

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The article itself basically shows you statistics of average career length based on skill level. 6 years for inactive roster, 9 years for first round draft pick, 11 years for Pro Bowl, etc… to me that seems that skill is the determining factor, not injury.

[quote]Edevus wrote
Soccer is the most popular sport around the worlld…[/quote]

thats because it takes virtually nothing to play soccer. You can be a starving shoeless kid and have fun kicking a goats head around a dirt field…

they just dont know what real fun is lol

anyone watch that womens world cup game today(brazil vs USA)? Unreal

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
anyone watch that womens world cup game today(brazil vs USA)? Unreal[/quote]

I watched it with my fiance. It was out of control!

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
anyone watch that womens world cup game today(brazil vs USA)? Unreal[/quote]
fucking insane. I really did not expect a goal to be scored, but then I saw that ball fly up in the air at the 120th minute and boom, in the net. I yelled at the top of my lungs and scared the shit out of my dog. haha.

after that instant, I knew the U.S. were gonna win the penalty kicks.

[quote]TommyGunz32 wrote:
anyone watch that womens world cup game today(brazil vs USA)? Unreal[/quote]

I left when Brazil was leading 2-1 (I was late anyways) and I was very shocked to then check that USA had won in penalties. USA was very, very disappointing. I really expected more from one of the top 2 countries, but at least they qualified, not like Germany…