[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
wow, its like einstein debating the theory of relativity with 3rd graders, lol. [/quote]
Somebody has an alternate account…
[quote]ultralars wrote:
Talking to you is like explaining einstein’s theory of general relativity to a five year old
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Wait, what’s “General Relativity”?
Who’s “Einstein”?
I like teh turtles.
RV, you’re an amusing guy, but you’re very wrong about the animals not killing for “pleasure”.
Steel Nation, BG, JayPierce and anyone else who have disagreed with you are spot on with their posts.
Animal behavior is not as black and white as you think it is.
Also, “innocence” is a human trait.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
perfect examply of why i hate and despise human beings. [/quote]
entire chapters in psych books are dedicated to your various neuroses and maladjustments. [/quote]
yes, cause i beleive the killing of innocent animals is wrong. yes, im sick, i have issues, lol. i just happen to think that all life is equal. we are the only species of animals that kill for pleasure. only one. [/quote]
You do have issues, your sympathies toward animals aside, your issues show up in damn near every thread. They are open and obvious. But we digress…
You’re entitled to believe “all life is equal” - it’s actually quite a lofty ideal and admirable - IF YOU PRACTICE IT. Just let us all know when you give up meat and other animal products okay?
As for animals being innocent, you’re uninformed. Where do you get this bad information? From a Snoopy cartoon? One of my dogs killed a raccoon the other day for the fuck of it. Walked around with it like “look what I did”. Didn’t eat it. Wasn’t threatening him. He killed it, BECAUSE HE COULD. Because it CAME WITHIN HIS SPACE. Many animals engage in this behavior. [/quote]
“it came within its space” exactly. it intruded on your dog’s territory. [/quote]
Only partially correct. If I cut him loose right now, he’d go off and find shit to kill. And he’d do it for the fuck of it. And IF he got hungry, he might eat something he killed, but he’d continue on killing even if he weren’t hungry.
You’re wrong.
I thought this thread is about skinny guys rebelling against muscle heads. sucks to be living in these day and age where they can get protection from police and lawyers. They really do feel threatened when they see muscle I think they become a lot more aggressive and provoke a fight ( even tho they wont fight it).
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
wow, its like einstein debating the theory of relativity with 3rd graders, lol. [/quote]
Somebody has an alternate account…
[quote]ultralars wrote:
Talking to you is like explaining einstein’s theory of general relativity to a five year old
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Wait, what’s “General Relativity”?[/quote]
Um…It’s just generally speaking about relative stuff…I think…like when some dude marries his cousin. They are still generally relatives because they’re related but at the same time generally not because they’ve just married. Yeah, I definitely think perhaps that’s what Weinstein meant.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What BG said with regards to stress and how your dogs are is spot on.
I will never forget the last day I brought my dogs to a dog park, I have three medium small dogs (all range between 25 and 40lbs) This day I only had two, my Boston Terrier (tipping the scales at 40lbs of lean mean tennis ball chasing muscle) and my female Keeshond (at about 33lbs) this guy and his buddy had his pitbull running around the dog park, now I love pits and believe they get a bad rap, but when you have 2 fist pumping, wife beater wearing, bro curling guys with the pit I am very wary to say the least…
Man that dog must of saw my Keeshond as a Mark, as she is very demure that pit jumped my dog and had her by the snout and would not let go, all my dog did was squeal, cry and piss herself, I actually started kicking the pit to get it off, I guess my dog reacts to stress in a flight way…
Well not my boston, his fat ass jetted to scene and latched on to one of the pits jowls and started shaking and twisting and he would not let go, it was a fucking blood bath, finally we got all the dogs untangled, my Keeshond ran behind me wailing and bleeding and my boston still wanted more…I actually had to slap my dog out of his rage. Talk about 2 different reactions to stressfull situations. Seriously my Keeshond was and is never the same, and my boston is still as he always was, confident and stable.
Luckily though the owner(s) looked like a doucher, he apologized profusley and we both went to the vet, he paid.
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I own pitbulls and intend to do so until the day I die…literally. And the douchebags you described are endangering my ability to do so without being an outlaw one day. I fucking hate these motherfuckers. YOU DO NOT ALLOW PITBULL BREEDS TO BE UNLEASHED IN PUBLIC!!!
Anyway, your Boston Terrier has that terrier blood, and they are in general very tenacious, so he was following his blood. Your other dog was following its blood and believe it or not, most dogs would be yelping and pissing themselves, no matter how tough they “look”.
If it ever happens again, keep your cool and use a leash to choke the air supply from the offending dog - you can’t kick or beat a pitbull off a target generally. Breaking sticks are preferred, but only a hunter or informed pitbull owner would be walking around with one of those. I actually know hunters that prefer to break their dogs from boar by cutting the air supply…it works and apparently causes no damages.
And I don’t think you should have corrected your terrier at all…you should have pat him on his head and gave him a bone 
He’s just following his instinct and we can’t get too mad at him for that :)[/quote]
Absolutely BG, Bostons, originally were bred with the now extinct white terrier and english bulldogs…they were originally fighting dogs, and Reggie maintains some of that in him, hes a great dog, 40lbs and Bostons nowadays shouldnt weigh more than 25. I love his loyalty and his sense of protecting his own, I wasnt correcting him, but he wouldnt get off!
I was once a big advocate of off leash exercise for dogs in NYC, and ran my own animal welfare and dog run organization. But I have become now am against same, simply because people are fucktards they let their dogs off leash talk on their cells and drink a fucking latte, and [ay no attention to the damage their dog is doing. Asshats like the one in my situation just make it worse for pits, they get them to be tough and look tough…if you have to get a dog to look tough you aint nothing but a pussy.
Anyways heres my best friend Reg Nice
[photo]24592[/photo]
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Shit I hope I dont see that vid, cuz I like turtles…
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Rogue likes turtles too. Better than people in fact.[/quote]
I really lol’d at this!
lol doesnt matter how big you are, if the guy knew mma or martial arts he would’ve fucked you up big time.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ All I see is a big white box, I thought pussy was a pink box?[/quote]
That’s true. But some pussies are just too big to fuck around with.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ All I see is a big white box, I thought pussy was a pink box?[/quote]
That’s true. But some pussies are just too big to fuck around with. [/quote]
That’s why these come in handy.
It will definitely beat a pussy up…no matter how big it is.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
It was once said by a very famous and successful trainer that one good harsh correction (when necessary) is less cruel than a lifetime of “nagging” corrections and I agree.
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Curious, Mike Lardy or Evan Graham perhaps?
I agree 100%. Pressure is one of many tools used in training but unfortunately many novice trainers (and even some old timer “pro’s”) jump strait to corrections for what they percieve to be a quick fix before ever teaching and often end up ruining what could have been an amazing animal. Nothing worse than seeing a working dog with its tail between its legs and ears pinned back pissing itself at the sound of its fucktard owners voice.
Brings to mind a quote I will probably butcher but something to the effect: “When a man is proud of his dog and shows it, I like him. When a dog is proud of him and shows it, I deeply respect him.”
jm2c
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming…
[quote]DM65 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
It was once said by a very famous and successful trainer that one good harsh correction (when necessary) is less cruel than a lifetime of “nagging” corrections and I agree.
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Curious, Mike Lardy or Evan Graham perhaps?[/quote]
I first heard it from Gary Wilkes, but I think it goes back further than any of these guys, Most or Koehler era.
My knowledge base comes primarily from Retriever training. I will def. look those two up.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What BG said with regards to stress and how your dogs are is spot on.
I will never forget the last day I brought my dogs to a dog park, I have three medium small dogs (all range between 25 and 40lbs) This day I only had two, my Boston Terrier (tipping the scales at 40lbs of lean mean tennis ball chasing muscle) and my female Keeshond (at about 33lbs) this guy and his buddy had his pitbull running around the dog park, now I love pits and believe they get a bad rap, but when you have 2 fist pumping, wife beater wearing, bro curling guys with the pit I am very wary to say the least…
Man that dog must of saw my Keeshond as a Mark, as she is very demure that pit jumped my dog and had her by the snout and would not let go, all my dog did was squeal, cry and piss herself, I actually started kicking the pit to get it off, I guess my dog reacts to stress in a flight way…
Well not my boston, his fat ass jetted to scene and latched on to one of the pits jowls and started shaking and twisting and he would not let go, it was a fucking blood bath, finally we got all the dogs untangled, my Keeshond ran behind me wailing and bleeding and my boston still wanted more…I actually had to slap my dog out of his rage. Talk about 2 different reactions to stressfull situations. Seriously my Keeshond was and is never the same, and my boston is still as he always was, confident and stable.
Luckily though the owner(s) looked like a doucher, he apologized profusley and we both went to the vet, he paid.
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I own pitbulls and intend to do so until the day I die…literally. And the douchebags you described are endangering my ability to do so without being an outlaw one day. I fucking hate these motherfuckers. YOU DO NOT ALLOW PITBULL BREEDS TO BE UNLEASHED IN PUBLIC!!!
Anyway, your Boston Terrier has that terrier blood, and they are in general very tenacious, so he was following his blood. Your other dog was following its blood and believe it or not, most dogs would be yelping and pissing themselves, no matter how tough they “look”.
If it ever happens again, keep your cool and use a leash to choke the air supply from the offending dog - you can’t kick or beat a pitbull off a target generally. Breaking sticks are preferred, but only a hunter or informed pitbull owner would be walking around with one of those. I actually know hunters that prefer to break their dogs from boar by cutting the air supply…it works and apparently causes no damages.
And I don’t think you should have corrected your terrier at all…you should have pat him on his head and gave him a bone He’s just following his instinct and we can’t get too mad at him for that :)[/quote]
Absolutely BG, Bostons, originally were bred with the now extinct white terrier and english bulldogs…they were originally fighting dogs, and Reggie maintains some of that in him, hes a great dog, 40lbs and Bostons nowadays shouldnt weigh more than 25. I love his loyalty and his sense of protecting his own, I wasnt correcting him, but he wouldnt get off!
I was once a big advocate of off leash exercise for dogs in NYC, and ran my own animal welfare and dog run organization. But I have become now am against same, simply because people are fucktards they let their dogs off leash talk on their cells and drink a fucking latte, and [ay no attention to the damage their dog is doing. Asshats like the one in my situation just make it worse for pits, they get them to be tough and look tough…if you have to get a dog to look tough you aint nothing but a pussy.
Anyways heres my best friend Reg Nice
[photo]24592[/photo]
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Good looking boy. Where in NY are you? We should grab a beer next time I’m up there…
[quote]DM65 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
It was once said by a very famous and successful trainer that one good harsh correction (when necessary) is less cruel than a lifetime of “nagging” corrections and I agree.
[/quote]
Curious, Mike Lardy or Evan Graham perhaps?
I agree 100%. Pressure is one of many tools used in training but unfortunately many novice trainers (and even some old timer “pro’s”) jump strait to corrections for what they percieve to be a quick fix before ever teaching and often end up ruining what could have been an amazing animal. Nothing worse than seeing a working dog with its tail between its legs and ears pinned back pissing itself at the sound of its fucktard owners voice.
Brings to mind a quote I will probably butcher but something to the effect: “When a man is proud of his dog and shows it, I like him. When a dog is proud of him and shows it, I deeply respect him.”
jm2c
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming…
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I believe it was Koehler.
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]DM65 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
It was once said by a very famous and successful trainer that one good harsh correction (when necessary) is less cruel than a lifetime of “nagging” corrections and I agree.
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Curious, Mike Lardy or Evan Graham perhaps?[/quote]
I first heard it from Gary Wilkes, but I think it goes back further than any of these guys, Most or Koehler era.[/quote]
LOL figures you got it. Yes Koehler.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I wear what is available. am i supposed to go barefoot. lol. as far as eating meat. I rarely if ever eat meat. but that argument is no long valid. i didn’t kill those animals. but eating is necessary. we eat whats available. if meat wasn’t available, id eat something else. and as far i know, i m not wearing any leather. [/quote]
I’m sure drinking blood is so much more ethical than eating meat. It’s scary how much blood you need to drink to maintain your size at 280lbs. It’s OK, you don’t have to kill any animals. Pretty sure the 500 old woman you love has already killed hundreds of animals on top of all the people she murdered for no fucking reason. You are such a model citizen.
[quote]DM65 wrote:
My knowledge base comes primarily from Retriever training. I will def. look those two up.[/quote]
Koehler was around in the post-war period, coming in at a time where dogs had been trained in 6 weeks to perform military roles. It wasn’t pretty, the wash-out rate was high, but it got a job that needed to be done, done on time. Anything he could offer you in retriever training you would already be doing, but with improvements (e.g long line training).
Gary Wilkes was an early clicker trainer who did seminars with Karen Pryor. At the time he was cutting edge, but you’d probably gain more from the likes of Mike Ellis, Denise Fenzi, or Leslie McDevitt.
OP, the mere fact that you came here whining about such a triviality explains why that skinny dude didn’t feel threatened by you. Plus he was perfectly aware that you wouldn’t risk a lawsuit by beating his ass…this is how things work in a pussified society.