[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Don’t tell strangers how to raise their animals or their kids. It’s that simple.
You’re only asking for trouble if you do, and it’s a wasted gesture because you aren’t going to change a damn thing.[/quote]
Very agreeable. Same goes for idiot drivers. They don’t even know they’re doing anything wrong.
The ironic thing is if you did end up fighting him, his dog probably would’ve tore you up.
[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Tell me more about the part about him “fitting” inside you…[/quote]
He “fit in” at least twice, according to OP.
You should have just growled at them like an angry bear & referred to the guy as a plebian zoophobe!!
I’m a food snob.
So it seems my story is leading it’s own life??
Ok for the record:
1° The dog was on the ground, while the GF tried to pick it up. The dog was on his back playing hard to get, as little young dogs do.
2° The guy picked up the dog en threw it very hard and aggressively in a HARD PLASTIC basket on the front of his bike. The poor dog hit his head on the sides. It was very rough (my friends agreed).
3° at that point I happened to walk there (I did NOT approach him) and said “Dude, can’t you put the dog in that basket in a normal manner?”. Nothing more, nothing less.
4° Then he and his GF went berserk at me.
I have a dog myself and i’ve NEVER hurt him like that. You don’t get to be a dog’s “pack leader” by physically hurting him.
And fuck it, maybe my damn ego got hurt by him not being scared by my size and the fact I had 2 friends with me.
Minding your own business is something you fucking emo bitches love, don’t you?
And yeah I eat lots of meat. Do you need to be a veganist in order to care about animals? I buy my chicken and beef from a BIO store, so at least the animals had some outside life and a humane ending.
Thanks to the few supporters of my action.
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Thanks to the few supporters of my action.
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You’re welcome. While I do agree it’s asking for trouble I believe standing up for what you think is right overrides that.
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
So it seems my story is leading it’s own life??
Ok for the record:
1° The dog was on the ground, while the GF tried to pick it up. The dog was on his back playing hard to get, as little young dogs do.
2° The guy picked up the dog en threw it very hard and aggressively in a HARD PLASTIC basket on the front of his bike. The poor dog hit his head on the sides. It was very rough (my friends agreed).
3° at that point I happened to walk there (I did NOT approach him) and said “Dude, can’t you put the dog in that basket in a normal manner?”. Nothing more, nothing less.
4° Then he and his GF went berserk at me.
I have a dog myself and i’ve NEVER hurt him like that. You don’t get to be a dog’s “pack leader” by physically hurting him.
And fuck it, maybe my damn ego got hurt by him not being scared by my size and the fact I had 2 friends with me.
Minding your own business is something you fucking emo bitches love, don’t you?
And yeah I eat lots of meat. Do you need to be a veganist in order to care about animals? I buy my chicken and beef from a BIO store, so at least the animals had some outside life and a humane ending.
Thanks to the few supporters of my action.
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That’s a much better description. If you had said all of that in the first place, you would have avoided a lot of grief.
I still think you should have minded your own business.
Off to cut myself and listen to The Cure while I cry in the bathtub…
If thats the case, while I usually mind my business, It would of bothered me too much to stay quiet. There is no place for hurting a dog because of what was a clear result of this dickheads frustration not wanting to constructively correct unwanted behavior.
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Hi there,
Yesterday I went to town with some friends to grab a drink when I saw a young couple with a little dog (6 months old or something). When we passed by, the dog was not listening to it’s owners. Suddenly the guy grabbed the dog and handled it in a rough manner.
The animal friend in me forced me to say something about it, so I said he shouldn’t do that.
I was shocked to see the damn tree hugger (he could fit in me twice easily) going at me, calling me a snob and that I should mind my fucking business. Even his girlfriend starting going berserk at me…
I didn’t react to their insulting and after giving him the look, I just turned and walked away.
Sure, it’s the smartest thing to do. I didn’t want to risk a criminal record over such a silly fight.
But still, it’s eating at my ego. Apparently weighing 230lbs of solid muscle does not hold anyone back. The thing is, when I see a buffed guy, not a hair on my head would think about bad mouthing him.
So there you have it: defending animal rights is for snobs! [/quote]
dude, good for you for speaking up about animal abuse. I would have said something also. nothing angers me more than people abusing animals. and we humans are fucking savages when it comes to abusing, killing animals. just ask all the whales and grizzly bears we hunted by the millions. that is a true holacaust in my view. why no memorial for them, hmmmmmm? this is a real pet peeve for me.
You should have reminded them that animal abuse is illegal and they might not like it if someone “bigger” than them, started to abuse them. say it with a smile. lol.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Hi there,
Yesterday I went to town with some friends to grab a drink when I saw a young couple with a little dog (6 months old or something). When we passed by, the dog was not listening to it’s owners. Suddenly the guy grabbed the dog and handled it in a rough manner.
The animal friend in me forced me to say something about it, so I said he shouldn’t do that.
I was shocked to see the damn tree hugger (he could fit in me twice easily) going at me, calling me a snob and that I should mind my fucking business. Even his girlfriend starting going berserk at me…
I didn’t react to their insulting and after giving him the look, I just turned and walked away.
Sure, it’s the smartest thing to do. I didn’t want to risk a criminal record over such a silly fight.
But still, it’s eating at my ego. Apparently weighing 230lbs of solid muscle does not hold anyone back. The thing is, when I see a buffed guy, not a hair on my head would think about bad mouthing him.
So there you have it: defending animal rights is for snobs! [/quote]
dude, good for you for speaking up about animal abuse. I would have said something also. nothing angers me more than people abusing animals. and we humans are fucking savages when it comes to abusing, killing animals. just ask all the whales and grizzly bears we hunted by the millions. that is a true holacaust in my view. why no memorial for them, hmmmmmm? this is a real pet peeve for me.
You should have reminded them that animal abuse is illegal and they might not like it if someone “bigger” than them, started to abuse them. say it with a smile. lol. [/quote]
For clarification purposes when you state “a true holocaust” is there a false holocaust in your eyes?
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Just curious as to what treating a dog as a dog entails, [/quote]
to me, it means:
The animal has clear and consistent boundaries. It is absolutely NOT allowed on the furniture when anyone is home, and NEVER under and circumstance on your bed, NEVER. Home or not. Certain rooms are off limits to the dog, and he is not to be invited into them.
The dog is to be walked every morning, and given the appropriate avenues to allow him/her to exercise. Some lazy dogs will be good with a mile, some smaller dogs less even, but if your dog needs 3 miles a day (mine) and still runs on the lead like a mad man 3 nights out of 7… Well you do what cha gotta do. The dog should also be given the proper toys as to keep him from destroying your shit out of boredom.
Unacceptable behavior is corrected immediately. Your dog does what you say.
You do not, under any situation try and “comfort” a dog. It isn’t a fucking child. You will reinforce it’s panic or obsession. The animal is not to be treated like a person in any way.
Affection & love should be treats, not just shitty cookies. “good boy” and “bad boy” should both be words it “understands”.
Only calm behavior is rewarded. The calm has to last for more than 10 seconds. Thsi is why most people fail at trying to treat bribe a dog, IMO. They reward the dog before he has completely come out of it.
Human walks through all door ways first. even if you have to call the dog back 7 times.
Human dictates where and when you stop on a walk, where and when the dog shits and pisses.
You have to calm, patient and empathic. It is a dog. It isn’t a human. If you lose your temper it will think you are crazy. But you need to light the dog up verbally now and again when it tests you. If you aren’t strong and consistent, it will test you.
If you control the food, you control the dog. It loves food more than you.
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
So it seems my story is leading it’s own life??
Ok for the record:
1° The dog was on the ground, while the GF tried to pick it up. The dog was on his back playing hard to get, as little young dogs do.
2° The guy picked up the dog en threw it very hard and aggressively in a HARD PLASTIC basket on the front of his bike. The poor dog hit his head on the sides. It was very rough (my friends agreed).
[/quote]
Bullshit.
LMAO, like you would come back on here and say “yeah I was just acting like a douchebag guys, you are right.”
lol
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
So it seems my story is leading it’s own life??
Ok for the record:
1�° The dog was on the ground, while the GF tried to pick it up. The dog was on his back playing hard to get, as little young dogs do.
2�° The guy picked up the dog en threw it very hard and aggressively in a HARD PLASTIC basket on the front of his bike. The poor dog hit his head on the sides. It was very rough (my friends agreed).
[/quote]
Bullshit.
LMAO, like you would come back on here and say “yeah I was just acting like a douchebag guys, you are right.”
lol
[/quote]
I’m still laughing at this description: “The guy picked up the dog en threw it very hard and aggressively in a HARD PLASTIC basket on the front of his bike. The poor dog hit his head on the sides. It was very rough (my friends agreed)”
Plus, his friends agreed, so the OP must be right.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Well at least you said something 
That’s not being snob at all, lol.
And nah, big guys ain’t that scary these days, ehehe.
Today at my gym, there was this small guy (about 5’2) having a go at that massive bodybuilder (about 6’).
Apparently, Smallguy jumped on the Hyperextension machine that BBguy was using in between supersets. BBG asked SG kindly if they could just work together but SG went on the defensive and lashed at him with verbal diarrhoea, spurting things like ‘I ain’t scared of you! Don’t think that because you’re on steroids you can mess with me…you think you can bully me? I can kick your ass! C’mon, bring it on…’ lol.
It was quite funny to see that small, slender guy making so much noise while BBG kept his cool. But you could see from his red face that he was dying to smack the small guy’s mouth. The staff even had to restrain SG and escort him out of the gym so he could calm down, haha![/quote]
it has nothing to do with not being scared. it has everything to do, with knowing he can just call the cops and have him arrested. do you think for one second any little dude would dare open his mouth to a much bigger guy if he knew nobody could help him.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Hi there,
Yesterday I went to town with some friends to grab a drink when I saw a young couple with a little dog (6 months old or something). When we passed by, the dog was not listening to it’s owners. Suddenly the guy grabbed the dog and handled it in a rough manner.
The animal friend in me forced me to say something about it, so I said he shouldn’t do that.
I was shocked to see the damn tree hugger (he could fit in me twice easily) going at me, calling me a snob and that I should mind my fucking business. Even his girlfriend starting going berserk at me…
I didn’t react to their insulting and after giving him the look, I just turned and walked away.
Sure, it’s the smartest thing to do. I didn’t want to risk a criminal record over such a silly fight.
But still, it’s eating at my ego. Apparently weighing 230lbs of solid muscle does not hold anyone back. The thing is, when I see a buffed guy, not a hair on my head would think about bad mouthing him.
So there you have it: defending animal rights is for snobs! [/quote]
dude, good for you for speaking up about animal abuse. I would have said something also. nothing angers me more than people abusing animals. and we humans are fucking savages when it comes to abusing, killing animals. just ask all the whales and grizzly bears we hunted by the millions. that is a true holacaust in my view. why no memorial for them, hmmmmmm? this is a real pet peeve for me.
You should have reminded them that animal abuse is illegal and they might not like it if someone “bigger” than them, started to abuse them. say it with a smile. lol. [/quote]
For clarification purposes when you state “a true holocaust” is there a false holocaust in your eyes? [/quote]
no, there was a holocaust, but why no mention of the millions and millions of whales that were killed over the last many hundreds of years. and please, dont’ say “well, they aren’t humans.” they are living beings, humans are not better than them and don’t deserve any greater sympathy. why no memorial for all the tortured and slaughtered animals.
I guess we will agree to disagree on some of your points beans, My dogs at times sleep in my bed, and they know their boundaries, If I say off, they get off,shit one of my dogs will on command pee when I tell him to. but for the most part I enjoy taking a nap with my dogs and having pack animal attributes I dont see any issue with this. I also dont think every dog can be treated the same, most dogs have been bred as companion animals even some working or guardian breeds have had some non marketable attributes weened out because it was not to human kinds liking, many if not most breeds thrive on companionship, affection and being part of the family, I would be remiss if I didnt do more than throw my dog a piece of jerky and say that is all the affection he or she is gonna get. As far as the food control thing goes, that could go for every living thing, I wouldnt love my mom if she didnt feed me, but I believe my dogs are loyal not only for feeding them but from a bond that we have created. I firmly believe that a dog can be in tune with your mood, and feel the Human dog relationship goes further than food, though it obviously has something to do with it.
All in all I feel Humans have for the most part created the dog, There are no wild papillons and dobermans as far as I know and its our responsibility as owners to uphold the bond and the breeds we have created.
NOW on the other hand, all of my dogs will know when I mean business, and know their role, totally agree with being the first in and out, not treating dog with affection when its acting out or out of sorts. A smack in the ass is not out of the question in my book.
my bad, what was this thread about?
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]Dahollow wrote:
Hi there,
Yesterday I went to town with some friends to grab a drink when I saw a young couple with a little dog (6 months old or something). When we passed by, the dog was not listening to it’s owners. Suddenly the guy grabbed the dog and handled it in a rough manner.
The animal friend in me forced me to say something about it, so I said he shouldn’t do that.
I was shocked to see the damn tree hugger (he could fit in me twice easily) going at me, calling me a snob and that I should mind my fucking business. Even his girlfriend starting going berserk at me…
I didn’t react to their insulting and after giving him the look, I just turned and walked away.
Sure, it’s the smartest thing to do. I didn’t want to risk a criminal record over such a silly fight.
But still, it’s eating at my ego. Apparently weighing 230lbs of solid muscle does not hold anyone back. The thing is, when I see a buffed guy, not a hair on my head would think about bad mouthing him.
So there you have it: defending animal rights is for snobs! [/quote]
dude, good for you for speaking up about animal abuse. I would have said something also. nothing angers me more than people abusing animals. and we humans are fucking savages when it comes to abusing, killing animals. just ask all the whales and grizzly bears we hunted by the millions. that is a true holacaust in my view. why no memorial for them, hmmmmmm? this is a real pet peeve for me.
You should have reminded them that animal abuse is illegal and they might not like it if someone “bigger” than them, started to abuse them. say it with a smile. lol. [/quote]
For clarification purposes when you state “a true holocaust” is there a false holocaust in your eyes? [/quote]
no, there was a holocaust, but why no mention of the millions and millions of whales that were killed over the last many hundreds of years. and please, dont’ say “well, they aren’t humans.” they are living beings, humans are not better than them and don’t deserve any greater sympathy. why no memorial for all the tortured and slaughtered animals. [/quote]
Ok understood
but when you say a true holocaust it inferred that a more famous holocaust didn’t happen
