So It Seems I'm a Snob

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

that says 32, not sure how it says 22. but somehow that was altered.

first, Elizabeth Bathory was not a serial killer. stop beleiving everything you read. she is the ultimate example of lies becoming reality. She was a very powerful woman, only woman with that kinda power back then. if you ever decide to investigate, you will find out, it was her 4 servants who were caught in the act and admitted to killing the girls. not the countess. and shes not my hero, but rather my soul mate. [/quote]

Not a serial killer? Oh, OK. So everyone else in the world is wrong and you are right? The only reason she wasn’t put to death is because she was rich and powerful. That doesn’t make her innocent. And if she was innocent, why did the lock her up in a room for four years until she died.

She was a sick, twisted psycho. And anyone that worships her or thinks she’s his soulmate has serious mental problems.

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ok, heres the deal, until recently, past few years, all the court transcripts were made known. and this woman, named kim craft, spent years there researching these documents. she wrote a book about it. many things were proven to be false. like bathing in blood. that is a myth that originated 200 years after she had died.

dude, listen, she said from the very beginning it was a political conspiracy, what google and wikipedia don’t tell you is, many people including the king owed her tons and tons of money. now if she was put away or convicted, they wouldn’t owe her the money any longer. why do you think they never once allowed her to testify on her own behalf, when she had written many letters requesting to speak. they simply wanted her gone. and they got their wish.

the myths about her have perpetuated continually. google will never tell you, that on the night they raided her castle the only people found torturing anyone or killing, where her 4 servants. the countess herself wasn’t even there. she had another place in town she was staying at. its a complex story. its not black and white, thats for sure. [/quote]

Right, because servants are always the ones who run shit in the castle. They can pretty much do whatever they want without the Countess knowing about it. Isn’t this the same lady that had sex with her aunt?[/quote]

no, she never had sex with her aunt. that is a long held myth. fact is it never happened. people seem to forget the time period in which she lived. servants back then were property. whether we consider that wrong or not is besides the point. the point is, those were the times, just like in this country when slavery was legal. [/quote]

Servants back then were property. That’s what you said. So how likely is it that they were the ones doing all of the torturing and killing? Not very.

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

that says 32, not sure how it says 22. but somehow that was altered.

first, Elizabeth Bathory was not a serial killer. stop beleiving everything you read. she is the ultimate example of lies becoming reality. She was a very powerful woman, only woman with that kinda power back then. if you ever decide to investigate, you will find out, it was her 4 servants who were caught in the act and admitted to killing the girls. not the countess. and shes not my hero, but rather my soul mate. [/quote]

Not a serial killer? Oh, OK. So everyone else in the world is wrong and you are right? The only reason she wasn’t put to death is because she was rich and powerful. That doesn’t make her innocent. And if she was innocent, why did the lock her up in a room for four years until she died.

She was a sick, twisted psycho. And anyone that worships her or thinks she’s his soulmate has serious mental problems.

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ok, heres the deal, until recently, past few years, all the court transcripts were made known. and this woman, named kim craft, spent years there researching these documents. she wrote a book about it. many things were proven to be false. like bathing in blood. that is a myth that originated 200 years after she had died.

dude, listen, she said from the very beginning it was a political conspiracy, what google and wikipedia don’t tell you is, many people including the king owed her tons and tons of money. now if she was put away or convicted, they wouldn’t owe her the money any longer. why do you think they never once allowed her to testify on her own behalf, when she had written many letters requesting to speak. they simply wanted her gone. and they got their wish.

the myths about her have perpetuated continually. google will never tell you, that on the night they raided her castle the only people found torturing anyone or killing, where her 4 servants. the countess herself wasn’t even there. she had another place in town she was staying at. its a complex story. its not black and white, thats for sure. [/quote]

Right, because servants are always the ones who run shit in the castle. They can pretty much do whatever they want without the Countess knowing about it. Isn’t this the same lady that had sex with her aunt?[/quote]

no, she never had sex with her aunt. that is a long held myth. fact is it never happened. people seem to forget the time period in which she lived. servants back then were property. whether we consider that wrong or not is besides the point. the point is, those were the times, just like in this country when slavery was legal. [/quote]

Servants back then were property. That’s what you said. So how likely is it that they were the ones doing all of the torturing and killing? Not very.[/quote]

its likely cause they were caught in the act. plus the admitted in court of killing the girls. they were the only witnesses against the countess. one of the servants, the only male, went around bragging about the girls he had killed, long before this ever became known. obviously these servants were given some sort of control or power over the others. why, who knows exactly. like i said, its a complex story.

here we go again, just arueing with someone that knows. a fact is a fact. it can’t be argued with or debated.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
here we go again, just argueing with someone that knows. a fact is a fact. it can’t be argued with or debated. [/quote]

how is that a fact? Where are you getting these facts? Where is the proof that makes what you say a “fact” and separates that from what others are saying that you call “myths”?

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
here we go again, just argueing with someone that knows. a fact is a fact. it can’t be argued with or debated. [/quote]

how is that a fact? Where are you getting these facts? Where is the proof that makes what you say a “fact” and separates that from what others are saying that you call “myths”?[/quote]

ok, thats a good question. but i thought i answered that already. the reason all these myths about her existed, example: she bathed in blood of virgins, she killed 650 girls. she was insane, she was crazy. a few years back, all the testimony from the court transcripts were made available to scholars. many letters the countess wrote. letters written by the prime minister thurzo. to make a long story short, these documents and transripts shed alot of light on these myths. for many years, it was beleived that the countess was caught red handed torturing and killing the girls. when in fact it was revealed, she wasn’t even there at the time of the raid.

as far as her being crazy or insane. she was basically the donald trump of that era. she had dozens of estates all over hungary and even in austria, with hundreds upon hundreds of servants(employees) she was in charge of the families entire business. she handled everything. and being a woman back then and having that much power, men didn’t take to kindly to that. she even had her own army, which she got together to help hungary battle the turks. and the many many letters she wrote, she was anything but insane. but an extremely passionate woman.

What was this thread about again?

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What was this thread about again?[/quote]

I think something about being a snob for telling someone not to hit their 400-year-old girlfriend.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
to make a long story short, these documents and transripts shed alot of light on these myths.
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where are these documents? Do you have proof? Copies? Legit website links with copies of these court doccuments? You still have not provided any proof that would make what you say a “fact” vs what others are saying which you call “myths”

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as far as her being crazy or insane. she was basically the donald trump of that era. she had dozens of estates all over hungary and even in austria, with hundreds upon hundreds of servants(employees) she was in charge of the families entire business. she handled everything… she even had her own army, which she got together to help hungary battle the turks. and the many many letters she wrote, she was anything but insane. but an extremely passionate woman. [/quote]

So she was extremely rich and had hundreds of and hundreds of servants/slaves/employees… that does not in any way prove that someone isnt crazy lol there is a very fine line between “crazy” and “extreme passion”

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What was this thread about again?[/quote]

I think something about being a snob for telling someone not to hit their 400-year-old girlfriend.

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If that countess were mine I’d have slammed her in basket I carry on my bicycle so hard it would pissed a few folks off. That’s what I’d do.

One simply has no business owning a countess that bathes in the blood of virgins and letting her get away with it.
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LOL.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
to make a long story short, these documents and transripts shed alot of light on these myths.
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where are these documents? Do you have proof? Copies? Legit website links with copies of these court doccuments? You still have not provided any proof that would make what you say a “fact” vs what others are saying which you call “myths”

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as far as her being crazy or insane. she was basically the donald trump of that era. she had dozens of estates all over hungary and even in austria, with hundreds upon hundreds of servants(employees) she was in charge of the families entire business. she handled everything… she even had her own army, which she got together to help hungary battle the turks. and the many many letters she wrote, she was anything but insane. but an extremely passionate woman. [/quote]

So she was extremely rich and had hundreds of and hundreds of servants/slaves/employees… that does not in any way prove that someone isnt crazy lol there is a very fine line between “crazy” and “extreme passion” [/quote]

this is pointless. do I have the said transcripts and documents in my possession. of course not. how can you prove anything about george washington? how do you separate fact from fiction. or of any known person. with presidents its easy. do you have those documents that prove what he did in battle? of course you don’t. but kim craft is a professor and an author and has seen these documents as have many other scholars. nobody has possession of them. they are located in budapest hungary. im done. people just want to fight. i have stated the facts. you ask me, well, you don’t have the actual documents. derrrr. of course i don’t thats a ludicrous thing to ask. anyways, unless there is an intelligent question. im done.

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What was this thread about again?[/quote]

I think something about being a snob for telling someone not to hit their 400-year-old girlfriend.[/quote]

Oh thats right, I was off I thought it was about a 400 year old basket that got thrown at a dog who actually belonged to a vampire serial killer.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
to make a long story short, these documents and transripts shed alot of light on these myths.
[/quote]

where are these documents? Do you have proof? Copies? Legit website links with copies of these court doccuments? You still have not provided any proof that would make what you say a “fact” vs what others are saying which you call “myths”

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as far as her being crazy or insane. she was basically the donald trump of that era. she had dozens of estates all over hungary and even in austria, with hundreds upon hundreds of servants(employees) she was in charge of the families entire business. she handled everything… she even had her own army, which she got together to help hungary battle the turks. and the many many letters she wrote, she was anything but insane. but an extremely passionate woman. [/quote]

So she was extremely rich and had hundreds of and hundreds of servants/slaves/employees… that does not in any way prove that someone isnt crazy lol there is a very fine line between “crazy” and “extreme passion” [/quote]

this is pointless. do I have the said transcripts and documents in my possession. of course not. how can you prove anything about george washington? how do you separate fact from fiction. or of any known person. with presidents its easy. do you have those documents that prove what he did in battle? of course you don’t. but kim craft is a professor and an author and has seen these documents as have many other scholars. nobody has possession of them. they are located in budapest hungary. im done. people just want to fight. i have stated the facts. you ask me, well, you don’t have the actual documents. derrrr. of course i don’t thats a ludicrous thing to ask. anyways, unless there is an intelligent question. im done.[/quote]

Sorry dude, I’mma take History Channel over your one author. The difference is that there are many sources that agree on what George Washington did. You have one poorly written book with some questionable research.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
What was this thread about again?[/quote]

I think something about being a snob for telling someone not to hit their 400-year-old girlfriend.[/quote]

Oh thats right, I was off I thought it was about a 400 year old basket that got thrown at a dog who actually belonged to a vampire serial killer.[/quote]

You weren’t far off Matty. Hahaha. The disparity between what was originally posted and what we are discussing now is hilarious. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.

Sooo Rogue Vampire…how do you train?


Vampire question…

HA HA dude that was great, Im sitting in my cubicle crackin the fuck up now, NICE!

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
to make a long story short, these documents and transripts shed alot of light on these myths.
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where are these documents? Do you have proof? Copies? Legit website links with copies of these court doccuments? You still have not provided any proof that would make what you say a “fact” vs what others are saying which you call “myths”

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as far as her being crazy or insane. she was basically the donald trump of that era. she had dozens of estates all over hungary and even in austria, with hundreds upon hundreds of servants(employees) she was in charge of the families entire business. she handled everything… she even had her own army, which she got together to help hungary battle the turks. and the many many letters she wrote, she was anything but insane. but an extremely passionate woman. [/quote]

So she was extremely rich and had hundreds of and hundreds of servants/slaves/employees… that does not in any way prove that someone isnt crazy lol there is a very fine line between “crazy” and “extreme passion” [/quote]

this is pointless. do I have the said transcripts and documents in my possession. of course not. how can you prove anything about george washington? how do you separate fact from fiction. or of any known person. with presidents its easy. do you have those documents that prove what he did in battle? of course you don’t. but kim craft is a professor and an author and has seen these documents as have many other scholars. nobody has possession of them. they are located in budapest hungary. im done. people just want to fight. i have stated the facts. you ask me, well, you don’t have the actual documents. derrrr. of course i don’t thats a ludicrous thing to ask. anyways, unless there is an intelligent question. im done.[/quote]

Sorry dude, I’mma take History Channel over your one author. The difference is that there are many sources that agree on what George Washington did. You have one poorly written book with some questionable research.[/quote]

ahhh, i get it now. lets attack what he loves, to get at him. lol. nice going. history channel, don’t me laugh up a lung, lol bhahaahahah. history channel simply goes by what has already been written and said. they don’t actually investigate things, lol. wow, why do i bother sometimes. how long ago was that stuff made on the history channel. 50 years ago, lol. poorly written book??? have you read the book? i suspect not. all these many sources you talk about, were made long before the transcripts and documents were made available and the lies and myths were put to rest. go to that site, i point out in a few posts ago. Im sure there were tons of sources when people still thought the earth was flat. lol bhahahahahah. but guess what, they were wrong. So, your going to take a tv program over a professor and author and teacher that has spent years researching this very topic??? you my friend, are one dumb fuck.

yes, i do realize you are simply trying to aggitate me.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Sooo Rogue Vampire…how do you train?[/quote]

yes, lets change the subject. i train mostly very low volume, but high frequency of each bodypart. i do alot of dc training, and i mix that in with myo reps, which is pretty similiar to dc. but with some slight differences.