So Injured, So Old: 600lb DL Before I Die

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Different time in my life, when everything was about impressing said people, that process is basicaly about being a bitch for a couple years anyway.

With your shoulder, are you able to do any over head work, does your shoulder act up more or less than bench, only asking because I seem to be able to bench without any problems ( narrow grip as well), but the minute I go over about 30 degrees of incline everything starts to go wonky with my left shoulder, and direct over head work is a crap shoot, somtimes OK, with light weight, and somtimes even light weight fucks me up. I’ve been trying different stretches, and ‘‘mobility work’’ but it dosen’t seem to help, it is what it is.

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Two surgeries to decompress - open up the joint space. Thought I’d get more ROM.

As if.

I cannot get my arm directly overhead. I’ve tried all kinds of stretching, whatever, and when I try to mil press, it looks like a standing bench press I’m so bent back.

So I have totally given up on that stuff. Just chews my shoulders and kills my lower back.

I’ve tried inclines and had the same experience as you.

At first going closer grip in the bench was crazy bad, but something about it made me think that the flow was better for my GH joint and the AC didn’t seem as stressed so I gutted it out. Now I can sorta bench. Someday I may even grow some triceps from all this (ooooooooh, TRICEPS!)

And, when I was young, all Americans bench pressed. It was the commies over seas who did overhead work and who laughed at our supine press work. So overhead pressing is the lift of the enemies of democracy, the bench press is the official lift of the free world. Only seems appropriate to lie on my back when I press. It’s all about freedom you know.

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Count me in on this thread! Looking forward to hearing some of your training wisdom and follow your progress.

Oh, and I, too, find your bike awesome.

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[quote]kgildner wrote:
Count me in on this thread! Looking forward to hearing some of your training wisdom and follow your progress.

Oh, and I, too, find your bike awesome.[/quote]

i’M COUNTING ON YOU, OOPS CAPS ON, WAIT, I’m counting on you guys to let me know if/when I have been wise.

Thanks, I love this bike.

You may notice that my bike is a rip off of a WWII BMW.

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Here’s an exerpt from a blog called, ‘‘Chaos, and Pain,’’ I was just over there reading, and it suddenly ocurred to me, that you might get it as well. Enjoy

Speaking of knowing exactly fuckall, there is one major caveat to what I am suggesting- if you’re under the age of 27 at this moment and happen to ever find yourself injured, you might as well quit lifting and eat a fucking bullet. Not since Al Qaeda conquered the assembled unwashed and uneducated dirt merchants of Afghanistan has there been a less well-educated or more pompous, self-aggrandizing, entitled pack of dogmatic, uninteresting, dickless, brainless fucktards than the under-27 crowd of “powerlifters” fucking up any decent discourse on the subject of lifting on whatever public forum they currently choose. So wedded to the idea that they have to adhere to a “program” lest they fail to achieve the baseline mediocrity for which they so desperately wish in order to impress the other saddie bitches yammering on about the program du jour, they’re completely incapable of enacting a damage control system of “improvise, adapt, and overcome” to train around an injury. Frankly, I’ve no idea how these assholes manage to get out of bed and get their fucking shoes on (“Thanks for tying them, mom! I’ll get it before I turn 30! I promise!”), but that set of actions certainly stretches the limits of their autonomy to the breaking point. They’d be more likely to transmogrify themselves into a rape monster in the form of winged bag of pulsating ectoplasm covered with turgid 10" cocks than they would be capable of determining a course by which they could train around an injury.

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AJ,

Why can’t I write like that? Transmorgrify. Pure genius.

Never thought of it until I read this thing you sent but maybe you aren’t even a powerlifter UNTIL you’ve been injured. If you’ve never been injured you either are incredibly lucky or you are holding back, a perpetual class 4.

I set a Ohio state record deadlift at a meet where I had popped an adductor during the squat. The black and blue was already moving under my skin to my knee with this big knot on the adductor. I finished the meet and pulled a 620 or something DL (a record which I recall didn’t stand that long).

Next day when I woke up the inside of my thigh was black and blue from knee to crotch. I didn’t go to the doctor. I didn’t go to the internet because Al Gore was still penciling it up. I didn’t go to PL USA because they really never had articles on rehab.

I just kept going, working around it because as I recall we only spoke of injury in passing because EVERYONE WAS ALWAYS HURT, that was the natural course of things. “How’s your fucking back?” “How the fuck do you think it is? What’s up with that hip?” “Fuckin’ hip…”

I will say that I like sharing wound stories here though…you get to do this when you are old.

Anyway, I think I walked away from the competitive sport more because of the mess of the zillion competing organizations and the difficulty in finding a decent meet than I did because of the injuries.

I try to pop around these forums and there so much competing advice. It’s nuts. I don’t see how a youngun can navigate through all this crap.

And this programming stuff. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

“I 'm doing the Tyranosaurus Press bench program posted by Bob “No One In The World Has My Genetics Or Pharmaceuticals And I Probably Don’t Follow This Shit Myself Anyway” Smith, and I thought I might mix it up by walking to the drinking fountain between sets, whatcha think?” “You IDIOT, I’ve been lifting for 6 months but reading about this stuff for YEARS: don’t mess with the program! There’s no water in the program!”

This is how religious wars started I guess.

Do some volume so that you can learn the lift.

Do some intensity because you have to lift heavy things after all.

Do BB movements at sissy weights so that people don’t go “no way, I know a guy who benches that and he’s twice as big as you.”

When you tear an adductor, go on a 5 day Caribbean cruise, let everyone stare at your big black and blue mark, come back, pull your squat stance way in, keep squatting with sissy weights and as the thing heals, slowly add weight and move your stance back out.

Remember that the internet is for porn and so AJ and Funny Ol’ Fuck can swap lies.

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I had two books growing up, ‘‘the strong shall survive’’ and ‘’ Brawn’’ and with only this I magaed to get a job working with a Jr hockey team, and get pretty fuckin big and strong.

I know I’d be further ahead, and the vast majority of people would be way further ahead, if they knew nothing but 5x5 template, only making adjustments based on feed back from they’re own bodies.

So, I’m on a quest to unlearn everything, and go back to what made me strong to begin with. ‘‘The un-education of anytimejake’’ I don’t really have much to un-learn, so it shouldn’t take too long :slight_smile:

Squat—bench—Row-----5x5------add weight whenever possible--------do a meet once a year to gauge progress !

later

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My workout structure for all 3 lifts FOR YEARS was

Get a 1 RM (meet result, gym best, wild ass guess):

Week 1: 70% x 8 - 10 x 3 , one set per minute
Week 2: 75% x 8 x 3, one set per minute
Week 3: 80% x 6 - 7 x 3, 1 - 1.5 minutes between sets
Week 4: 85% x 5 x 2, 2 - 3 minutes between sets
Week 5: (80x2, 85% x 2, 90% x 2) 5 minutes between sets

(Old readers of Iron Man and old readers of Power Lifting USA may recognize this format)

Week 6: (Test a new 1 RM) OR (Do a meet) OR (Multiply 1 RM by 1.03) THEN (go back to week 1 and start over)

Squat Monday, Bench Wednesday, Deadlift Friday.

If it wasn’t working, adjusted something. RARELY did I adjust, except for the bench because of my permanently ground chuck shoulders.

I should go back to this. I was in great shape cardiovascularly, I pushed/pulled/squatted weights at the speed of light, assistance work was somewhere between none or whatever BB crap tickled my fancy that day.

Why have I stopped doing this? It worked. I was happy. Women had big hair. The birds chirped. I had strong erections.

I’m gonna give it a try. (maybe)

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Okay, workout posting…

(Who’s still awake?)

(I should make up a 3rd and 4th, maybe 5th workout each week so that I don’t lose you guys.) (Maybe Crossfit.) (Ha Ha, I said “Crossfit”.)

I am 56.1917808 years old…

I weighed in at 215.4 this morning.

My body weight seems to go up and down, however my age keeps going up. I need to go on a time diet. I will search the forums.

Oh, and depending on how my back feels, I am somewhere between 5’ 8" and 5’ 9".

When I was lifting as a 181, there was NO QUESTION that I was not juicing because I was about a head taller than everyone else in my weight class. All the guys my height were 220s (some) or 242 and up (most).

DEAD LIFTS!!!

I said DEAD LIFTS!

(I just realized that sometimes I spell it “dead lift” other times “deadlift”.)

Tuesday February 25, 2014

Warm ups:

245 x 5
295 x 2
335 x 2
385 x 2
425 x 1
475 x 1 (8 minutes)

Top set:

520 x 3

http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=Jlrq2BeVt9s

See…a 100, two 45s (a black and a gray one), a 35, a 10 and a 2.5. I ain’t lying, that was a real triple with a real 520 lbs.

(For those who care, that is the band Soulless in the background, my cousin’s band, I could NOT lift were it NOT for that music…)

(I’m on my 3rd CD player. Last 2 got lifting chalk in them and stopped playing right. Skipping music just as I’m starting a set or whatever. I punched both of them out, the second one I kicked the shit out of for good measure since it started this “ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah” thing just as I was getting under a top set squat. My wife bought me this one because she cares.) (I don’t know if you can tell from the video, but the player, in the corner, is in a clear plastic bag. Like a CD player prophylactic.) (I practice safe death metal.)

Other deadlifts:

380 x 5 sets x 3 reps (4 minutes, 20 seconds)

Other, Other deadlifts:

300 x 3 sets x 10 reps (4 minutes)

(I wanted 5 sets but my knee hurts from rep 3 of the 520, me trying to show off by being all snappy at the lockout.) (MY version of a lockout.) (Don’t judge unless you are a card carrying judge.) (Didn’t I tell you to GET OFF MY LAWN!!!)

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((I believe that my computer is nearly out of parenthesis by now)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

(Speaking of no judging, yes, that is a singlet and yes my calves are really small.)

Well, I have little left to say. Actually started out with little to say. Doesn’t stop me.

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CRAP!!!

I mean…

(Sigh…)

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Hey, is it un-cool to also post this video in the Over 35 forum because I want to show off in front of all the other droopy asses?

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Man, awesome triple! You made that look easy. Where was the fourth rep?

And if you ever do figure out a way to solve the whole problem of one’s age going up, please let me know.

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[quote]kgildner wrote:
Man, awesome triple! You made that look easy. Where was the fourth rep?

And if you ever do figure out a way to solve the whole problem of one’s age going up, please let me know.[/quote]

Thanks. I said the same thing when I saw the video. Where’s number four? The set was supposed to be a double, so the triple was a gift. It seemed harder doing them than it looks in the video. “Leave one in the tank” they say.

Yes, if I work out the details on the time diet, I will post here.

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Reads thread title; “Well, that escalated quickly.”

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[quote]Mina293 wrote:
Reads thread title; “Well, that escalated quickly.”[/quote]

Color me seniley demented, but “what?”

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I don’t like ya anymore !

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
I don’t like ya anymore ![/quote]

Honeymoons are brief.

Well, as a going away prize, might ya tell me where the ‘‘Chaos, and Pain’’ blog is? There are a lot of hits when I search.

I read that quote to a guy from work. That’s just good stuff.

Well, anyway, it was special.

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You made that 520 just look ridculously easy, and i contiplated not coming here anymore, but I’ll forgive ya thius once. As far as Chaos and pain, I never thought about it, but I actually always get there through " Lift-Run-Bang " Thats another good blog, but when your there, it lists along the right side of the screen other interesting blogs, opne’s I like that you may like

‘‘Bas barbell’’ ( coach Jim Steel, as old as you, and dedlifting 700 stll, as well as coaching collage ball )
‘‘Lift-Run-Bang’’ ( just a strong guy, with strong opinons )
‘‘Mythical strength’’ ( our own TNation’s pwnisher’s blog)
''Chaos & Pain ‘’ ( the crudest of the bunch, I only visit couple times a year, then it changes the way I think about everything ! )
‘‘Upstrong’’ ( is jay Nera’s blog, strong raw PLer, dosen’t say much, but lists his crazy workouts, and I hope to train with him this summer)

These are the only real sites I spend any regular time at.

There that should keep you busy enough, for a while, and let the rest of us lift some weight, and try to catch up. Later

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
You made that 520 just look ridculously easy, and i contiplated not coming here anymore, but I’ll forgive ya thius once.

‘‘Lift-Run-Bang’’ ( just a strong guy, with strong opinons )

There that should keep you busy enough, for a while, and let the rest of us lift some weight, and try to catch up. Later[/quote]

My right knee went “krak” as I locked out #3, right on top of that old meniscus tear. Today I walk like someone bet me $100 I couldn’t keep a quarter clenched between my ass cheeks all day. And that I took the bet. And that the quarter is still in there.

Caught the knee pain from you.

Oh and thanks for the one time pass. I appreciate it. (You didn’t really contemplate not coming here any more did you? This log is YOUR fault after all AND I’m all pumped up about lifting again, and that is also your fault.)

I’ve been to Lift-Run-Bang once. Most notable there is the T shirt “Death Is Winning Do Something”.

Found http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/ after I posted last. Best site ever!!!

Okay, I’ll try to keep busy.

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Are you really making fun of the way I spell -continplate, thats the canadian spelling, and contemplate, is the American spelling, sort of like color, and colour, we got our own way of doing things :slight_smile:

As for the knee, goodluck, it’s hard to work around knee pain, I’ve been there, 10 years of only benching and curling, seemed to fix mine

The list of blogs, well my wife leaves for work 7am and then I get my daughter on the school bus around 8am, then wonder around until she get’s home at 4pm, so I found a couple blogs to pass the time,( everything else seems stupid, and comercial) I think you’ll get a kick out of coach Steel as well, cranky old fucker, like’s to lift twice a week, and out lift all the young bucks, ya know, his older stuff’s better, he’s gotten a little boring lately, anyway got an hour to clean the house, before everyone starts gettin home, goodluck with the knee.