Smallville vs Hollywood

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Unfortunately, as usual, I probably won’t be able to really watch these new ones for another 365 days.[/quote]

That’s too bad. BUT, if they can keep up with the work they’ve produced so far, you’ll probably change your mind on which season is the best season yet. For example, in last night’s episode, we saw some references to Clark doing some secretive ‘super cleaning’ for the general good. That’s really the first time I can think of that he’s done anything on that level. A serious first step towards becoming the protector of the masses.

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[quote]Plisskin wrote:
Okay, I’m going to have to say that the first two episode’s of this season of Smallville are some of the best episodes they’ve ever filmed. Its like they’ve taken it to a whole new level. Did they get a whole new writing staff and some acting coaches??!! haha I only hope they can keep it up![/quote]

It may be just because Loeb’s able to focus more on his work again. You’ll notice that one of the episodes from last season was dedicated to Sam Loeb… that was Jeff’s son. Sam was only 17 when cancer finally took him from this world and his family was, understandably, distraught. Jeff was missing deadlines, writing slow – the fact that he was functioning at all is impressive.

Loeb has a real love of the character, and it shines through in the show. They made him one of the driving forces in the show after his mini-series “Superman for All Seasons”. If you haven’t read it yet, I highly recommend it. You can really see the roots of the show’s feel in there.

SfAS is hit and miss, in my opinion. Two of the four books were well-done, but nothing really exceptional. They just didn’t grab me. But the fourth book is a strong effort, and the first, featuring the period just before Clark leaves Smallville, is damned brilliant. It flattened me and became, without a doubt, probably my favourite work on the character.

The movie sucked because the people involved neither understand the character, nor do they want to. They miss the core of the concept. The problem wasn’t merely that they focused on Superman to the exclusion of his relatable, human personality (though that’s certainly part of it), but that they even got the Superman part of things wrong. From a shitty costume design created to make the actor look smaller and weaker (WTF?!?) to the appearance of “super-bastard” – they didn’t just miss the bullseye, they missed the freakin’ dartboard.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
It was originally that he would never fly or wear the suit. I personally hoppe they throw all of that out and just rename the show or something if it continues for another few seasons.[/quote]

It was written in Welling’s contract that he wouldn’t have to wear the suit. The flying they’ve just avoided because so often that special effect looks cheesy – plus it negates a lot of the problems he’s had so far.

They’ve talked about his flying in this (the last?) season, though.

Personally, I’d love it if they’d stretch the series out with the suit, but with the movie studio banking on a Superman film franchise the chances of allowing it in the TV show are nil. WB’s internal divisions can be pretty petty. Remember Adam Knight? The dead kid who Luthor’s experiments were keeping alive? Word was that he was originally supposed to be the Dark Knight… Adam Knight being a pseudonom for young Bruce Wayne as he wandered the world, learning the skills that eventually made him Batman.

On an only moderately related note – did anyone else notice that Welling seemed to bulk up a little during the “witch season”? His torso and arms seemed thicker. He had more physical presence. He seems to have returned to that leaner look since then.

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[quote]emdawgz1 wrote:
Hollywood’s demise is easy to explain.

In Hollywood, films are made by accountants. Guys who dont care at all about what actually gets to the screen. They only care about the opening weekend BO and the DVD release.

Now that the guys at Marvel and DC hve turned into pimps. Hollywood now has a long list of characters to turn out onto the screen. I know im in the minority, but i hate the movie X-men. Pick up the graphic novel that was"adopted" for the film. Days of future past was MAGNIFICENT. The film was blah.

Spiderman 1&2 was based loosely around Spiderman 160 & 161. Intro GG. It was done better but it still lacked a level of drama in the original.

The hulk??? please. Fantastic Four??? How could they miss that badly?!?!

It’s beacuse the filmmakers are out and the accountants are in.

Most movies today are greenlighted and begin production before the SCRIPT is written![/quote]

The Green Goblin was introduced in Amazing #14. Issues 160-161 are best remembered today for the intro of the “Spider-Mobile,” a goofy looking dune buggy that a car company gave to Spidey not realizing that, having grown up in Queens, he had never learned to drive.

None of the X-Men movies have ANYTHING to do with “Days of Future Past,” which is a story set in the future where all the main characters have pretty much been killed.

X2 was very, very loosely based on “God Loves, Man Kills.”

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Caught Smallville S6 ep1 - excellent.
Have now saw a few episodes of season 5 with aquaman and cyborg (ala Teen Titans). I’ve never been a superman fan, always preferred batman but these smallville episodes make me want to see more (which is good since Stargates are on a break).

A poster on the previous page said about accountants making the movies? - I think Joel Smeuk Maker (Batman and Robin i think) said that he attended meetings for the movie which had input from McDonalds reps re: toys. That would explain a lot but i think it was irredeemable really. Making Bane a stupid bodyguard was a dumb start (as was the cast etc etc)

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Forgive me, but I am coming in late in the game. I read one of the earlier posts and would like to mention the Tom Clancy novels as a parallel thought on how Hollywood can get something soooooo wrong.

I totally agree that the comics offer so much more in so many ways. I also agree that Smallville offers a great method of character development (as an aside, I live next to Smallville, the one in Canada where it is filmed and have had opportuntiy to talk with some of the characters). My issue is how formulaic Hollywood has become in putting out movies.

It seems as though the great ones are the ones that don’t follow the script, so to speak, as far as the standard Hollywood formula goes. Same with TV shows. In fact, I rarely watch TV anymore. I do, however, rent the DVD sets of 24 and Lost. CSI is alos interesting. I seem to be spending more time on Discovery Civilization and the National Geographic channels.

Oh well, I have a Chiropractor appointment in Smallville in a few moments, literally.

Tyrell

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
Hollywood’s demise is easy to explain.

In Hollywood, films are made by accountants. Guys who dont care at all about what actually gets to the screen. They only care about the opening weekend BO and the DVD release.

Now that the guys at Marvel and DC hve turned into pimps. Hollywood now has a long list of characters to turn out onto the screen. I know im in the minority, but i hate the movie X-men. Pick up the graphic novel that was"adopted" for the film. Days of future past was MAGNIFICENT. The film was blah.

Spiderman 1&2 was based loosely around Spiderman 160 & 161. Intro GG. It was done better but it still lacked a level of drama in the original.

The hulk??? please. Fantastic Four??? How could they miss that badly?!?!

It’s beacuse the filmmakers are out and the accountants are in.

Most movies today are greenlighted and begin production before the SCRIPT is written!

The Green Goblin was introduced in Amazing #14. Issues 160-161 are best remembered today for the intro of the “Spider-Mobile,” a goofy looking dune buggy that a car company gave to Spidey not realizing that, having grown up in Queens, he had never learned to drive.

None of the X-Men movies have ANYTHING to do with “Days of Future Past,” which is a story set in the future where all the main characters have pretty much been killed.

X2 was very, very loosely based on “God Loves, Man Kills.”[/quote]

Corrections

GG first app wa sAmazin spiderman 14
I was referring to Amazing spiderman 121, 122 Death of gwen Stacy, death of GG1
Sorry.

However, wasnt the person kidnapped in Xmen movie 1 Senator Kelly? And wasnt Senator kelly, the person Kitty pride came back from the future to save in “days of future past”???
I found the movie extremely boring so i checked out bout halfway thru.