[quote]llostintheworld wrote:
Well i’ve been reading a lot lately on dieting and whatever and the articles on this website have kinda left me in space.
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That’s your first mistake ^
I used to be in your shoes too. Worry less about the details, put your head down and enjoy getting weight added to the bar. Shoot for 5lbs+ each week; it shouldn’t take long to get past newbie stages.
As some have hinted at, doing nothing but the basics is one way of doing this…although it’s not the extreme abbreviation that makes the growth happen (with the exception of a true “hardgainer”), it’s focussing on progression and your own personal recovery that does it.
Don’t worry too much about what you eat (so long as it’s not all crap), but rather, eat lots of it, including enough protein (this will feel uncomfortable, and will include much force). If you can keep up a diet for long term, it’s a good one. Like said, inconsistency with a ‘perfect diet’ (i.e. healthy but not getting enough total calories) is not better than a crappy diet with enough total calories every week.
I can’t be bothered typing it all out again but check this thread out, hope it helps:
If you have the balls to do it, find someone at your gym who has the physique you want and go talk to them about what they are doing training and diet wise…
When they tell you what they did, DO NOT SAY “Yeah, but I heard…” - Instead, say “Yes sir” and do it.
[quote]LessTraveled wrote:
Seriously listen to this man, he is correct. I THINK and its an OPINION only but the first 2-3 years of anyones lifting career should be NOTHING but the BASIC heavy compound movements. Squats, Deadlifts, bent over rows, dips, Bench, standing military press and maybe some standing barbell curls. Thats it, how fucking simple is that?. I WAS JUST LIKE YOU young in my career reading way to many FLEX magazine articles and trying to emulate the PRO’s routine. DONT ignore what we are saying. The SINGLE biggest mistake I ever made was doing what your doing early in my career. Thesed ays I do the basics and I have never been bigger or stronger than I am now. [/quote]
^ This x1000. you want something to read? Read Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. he can easily put 60 pounds on you in 6 months. take me for instance, i started out a weak weak 160 lanky skinny bastard at 6’4 inches… after 4 months of starting strength i weigh 200 pounds.
Eat eggs, ground beef, chicken, mashed potatoes, MILK MILK MILK, Protein shakes, fruits and veggies. the rule of thumb is simple, if you cant pick it, grow it, or kill it, you shouldnt be eating it. good luck
Thanks for all the advice guys. I’ve decided to up my protein to a gallon a day so ill be intaking about 4200 calories a day.I’m also going to try to add another meal , but it’ll be hard since my time is EXTREMELY limited. Thanks again for all the advice.
[quote]LessTraveled wrote:
[quote]Danny1506 wrote:
Waaay too many exercises imo, keep it basic and heavy! Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Overhead press and Bent-Over Row. No need for all these extra exercises, they do more harm than good when youre trying to put on weight, you are burning a ton of calories with that program.
You might even be overtraining, which would seriously hamper your progress - are you feeling lethargic, tired, not feeling like going to the gym etc.?[/quote]
Seriously listen to this man, he is correct. I THINK and its an OPINION only but the first 2-3 years of anyones lifting career should be NOTHING but the BASIC heavy compound movements. Squats, Deadlifts, bent over rows, dips, Bench, standing military press and maybe some standing barbell curls. Thats it, how fucking simple is that?. I WAS JUST LIKE YOU young in my career reading way to many FLEX magazine articles and trying to emulate the PRO’s routine. DONT ignore what we are saying. The SINGLE biggest mistake I ever made was doing what your doing early in my career. Thesed ays I do the basics and I have never been bigger or stronger than I am now. Im 34 now and could outlift the 23 yr old me any fucking day of the week.[/quote]
I can’t agree with this at all. I would have someone start out doing EVERYTHING. I wish whoever made this some rule would quit the campaign.
I saw nothing but benefit by figuring out how IT ALL fit together, not ONLY compound movements.
That ain’t bodybuilding and is why so many of those guys have huge imbalances.
[quote]LibertyPatriot wrote:
[quote]LessTraveled wrote:
Seriously listen to this man, he is correct. I THINK and its an OPINION only but the first 2-3 years of anyones lifting career should be NOTHING but the BASIC heavy compound movements. Squats, Deadlifts, bent over rows, dips, Bench, standing military press and maybe some standing barbell curls. Thats it, how fucking simple is that?. I WAS JUST LIKE YOU young in my career reading way to many FLEX magazine articles and trying to emulate the PRO’s routine. DONT ignore what we are saying. The SINGLE biggest mistake I ever made was doing what your doing early in my career. Thesed ays I do the basics and I have never been bigger or stronger than I am now. [/quote]
^ This x1000. you want something to read? Read Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. he can easily put 60 pounds on you in 6 months. take me for instance, i started out a weak weak 160 lanky skinny bastard at 6’4 inches… after 4 months of starting strength i weigh 200 pounds.
Eat eggs, ground beef, chicken, mashed potatoes, MILK MILK MILK, Protein shakes, fruits and veggies. the rule of thumb is simple, if you cant pick it, grow it, or kill it, you shouldnt be eating it. good luck
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Dude, you’re 6’4". You SHOULD be 200lbs or more whether you lift or not.
Oh look it’s this thread again…where a bunch of posters with no pics in their avi or profile recommend ONLY doing compound lifts and drink a fuckin’ gallon of milk a day…while the very experienced posters WITH IMPRESSIVE pics in their avis post a more moderate well-rounded approach…
Who to listen to?
hmmmmmm…
Seriously, the most helpful posts in these types of threads are the reality check posts from more experienced members.
Speaking as a newcomer to the board, it’s VERY hard to wade through the BS when everyone speaks so authoritatively (new and old alike). I wish everyone didn’t seem to have the burning desire to be viewed as an expert.
i never meant to come across as an expert in the field by any means. just threw in my two cents and what worked for me guys
[quote]LibertyPatriot wrote:
i never meant to come across as an expert in the field by any means. just threw in my two cents and what worked for me guys [/quote]
…and the point is, it hasn’t worked for you. A beginner should be gaining no matter what they are doing as long as they eat enough and training regularly. Making gains to “normal weight for your height” does not mean some specific strategy “worked for you”.
It means you quit playing around and started eating enough like you should have been all along.
That is why pictures would help others know if you even understand what you are talking about.
This is not an insult…but holy crap, why do so many of you who just freaking started feel some need to tell everyone “what worked”?
If it worked, show us.