Bravo! Exactly why I’m never getting married. Women and self-awareness / accountability are incompatible. We see this reflected in their increasing mental illnesses, leaving good men, insatiable need for attention and validation, etc… fuck that
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It’s not always that way.
There are still very feminine women out there, happy with traditional and I would even say biological roles.
These conversations can get weird if intent is misunderstood, but if you’re a generally assertive guy, there are women who will willingly submit to you and “fold in”.
It becomes important to be a good steward of the dynamic and allow them to exist as themselves under your wing but it can be done.
And this is why, if it seems there could be potential, dating with intentionality of assessment is important. I think the real problem is that compromise is overplayed. It’s an extremely necessary component but you still have to have a base level of compatibility.
Not all women want to be Joan of Arc. They can be very happy being a good wife, even if they have a job. And if they trust you implicitly they’ll let you lead willingly and even gladly.
There are also women who will fight you tooth and nail, to prove a point, and good for them. Wrong fit.
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I am with this 100 percent, with “all of it” including the children. If a man is not at fault (no abuse, neglect, withholding of sex, abandonment), he gets 100% custody. Ninety percent of no fault divorces involving children are initiated by women. So if they want to leave because they “fell out of love,” “outgrew the husbands,” “felt unfulfilled,” then scram. Same goes for the ten percent of men pulling this.
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I’ve often wondered how much medication comes into play with some of the more baffling things I’ve seen from women, especially single moms.
I was loyal like a dog to my stepson’s mother and shopping for engagement rings when she went to our friend’s wedding in the Dominican Republic, hooked up with a rando and then decided she was no longer attracted to me when she returned. I was home watching her child while she was off doing this, to boot.
Turns out the rando just wanted to fuck, so that didn’t work out for her either.
I’m not perfect, but I raised her kid as my own and still do, even though he’s now 24 and the raising is mostly complete. We’re about to spend the afternoon together to finish up Christmas shopping.
I guess I could have been more diligent with my laundry or had sex every day instead of most days, but I’ve come to conclude that it was much more about her than me. I can’t imagine being able to give a woman more than I gave her, and it still wasn’t enough.
She’s still the most grounded women I’ve dated seriously. The rest have been disasters from a long-term partnership point of view.
I should probably open the books back up to single moms, come to think of it. I’m probably ruling out 80 percent of the potentially good partners for me at this point, especially since I’m old enough to date women with grown children.
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*womAn… And I’m legit sorry to hear that as you seem like a legit great human being. As badly as I’d love to be a husband it’s simply far too risky and getting riskier between their brain washing, mental illnesses, open misandry, insatiable need for validation via all social media platforms, bizarre attachment to dogs, repulsive attitudes, laziness, etc… nah I’m good
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I mean, I’m a feminine woman in a traditional marriage to a masculine man. In fact, at the moment he’s fucking around in the basement while I deep clean the house. Sometimes I get to be the one fucking around, sometimes I come undone because something he’s done has shot past what seems fair to me.
Don’t most people just want a happy home with laughter and touch and shared joy and worries? I don’t think it’s that complicated. Tell the truth - “I want you to do the bulk of the household work, but I don’t value it and will fight tooth and nail to prevent you profiting from our [average of 8] years together regardless of my earnings climb” - and then do the part you offered for. If one of them threatens to leave the relationship and the other values the relationship, let either of them renegotiate to keep it. “Fine, I’ll give more blowies,” or “fine, I’ll take over the dinner dishes on x nights per week.”
Most women make numerous attempts to communicate their frustrations before actually leaving. Men who leave do, too, for that matter - and they’re not that far behind women in initiating separation, just not the majority.
Same here, @twojarslave.
I should move around on the floor so the husband thinks I’m still working wicked hard up here, so he owes me labor. 
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It’s a pretty simple test for me at this point.
Does the relationship improve my life?
Sex is easy to find, especially if you stay on good terms with a few exes. With that covered (thank you feminist empowerment), I’m really only interested in someone who can contribute to the peace and stability I’ve grown accustomed to.
I imagine there are millions of imperfect men with similar attitudes in 2024.
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Citation for “most women make numerous attempts…” My experience been exactly the opposite. Absolutely zero accountability from them…
Nothing is going to change the fact that women are not only encouraged to leave and destroy men they are not slowing down with their leaving for whatever reasons those may be… how often are the reasons objectively legit?
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Our peace >
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I am sure @EmilyQ can back her notions up, but my observation has been the same as yours.
Sure, attempt to work out a better path forward. It is a commitment, after all.
But if one walks at fault or just because then they’re gone. Bye. No, I won’t keep washing dishes, cooking dinner et cetera. Why would I?
This was exactly the theme of the video I posted. “Be better than nothing.” This how women have come to join you in thinking.
See this is a joke but it’s also not, let’s be honest.
I hope your blowjobs are good.
Which of us do you think would be more likely to leave?
Frequent, excellent blowjobs can buy some illogic tolerance. It’s probably part of the natural order of things. So if/when you do leave, you should either keep giving them or not expect his continued contributions 
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That’s not the bar that actually needs to be cleared though, thanks to easy availability of sex.
“Be better than casual sex” is the true bar women need to clear if I’m ever going to give myself to a woman like I did before.
I’m sure a gal is out there in the same boat who can put up with me. I also suspect aliens might be out there too.
Right now it’s looking more likely I’ll encounter the latter first.
I also found it somewhat reassuring that even Tom freaking Brady couldn’t keep his woman happy.
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I realize NAWALT, but… they’re so far and few between, usually spoken for, aren’t interested in men at all (because you go guuuurl) and the odds of meeting them is infinitely small… and most have the paradox of choice, too. Simply accepting reality in 2024
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Once the womenz learn how to tame the penis… they’ll rule the world but they’re typically too dim witted
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Women are never happy… it’s not our default setting either but to them it should be…hence they leave on a fantastical whim only to keep repeating the cycle
Accepting them for what they are is the key. Then it makes sense when they do irrational self-defeating things and never own up to them